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Thread started 04/28/05 10:12am

magnificentpen
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anyone here reached their final stage of self actualization?

I still have a long way to go.
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Reply #1 posted 04/28/05 10:13am

AcutenPetiteGr
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magnificentpentatonic said:

I still have a long way to go.




what?
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Reply #2 posted 04/28/05 10:14am

Fauxie

Self-actualization?

You could be trying for a long time! lol

There is no 'self', silly.
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Reply #3 posted 04/28/05 10:17am

magnificentpen
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AcutenPetiteGrl said:

magnificentpentatonic said:

I still have a long way to go.




what?


"A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write,
if he is to be at peace with himself. What a man can be, he must be.
This is the need we may call self-actualization ... It refers to man's
desire for fulfillment, namely to the tendency for him to become
actually in what he is potentially: to become everything that one
is capable of becoming ..."
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Reply #4 posted 04/28/05 10:18am

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I'm a poet
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Reply #5 posted 04/28/05 10:19am

Anxiety

not on every level, no...but it's all relative. some people are so together that i feel like a bumbling freak, then i get around other people and i feel like the freakin' buddha.

i think i'm getting closer, though.
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Reply #6 posted 04/28/05 10:20am

Fauxie

Pish.
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Reply #7 posted 04/28/05 10:21am

Anxiety

Fauxie said:

Pish.


grateful dead ripoffs. rolleyes
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Reply #8 posted 04/28/05 10:21am

Fauxie

Anxiety said:

Fauxie said:

Pish.


grateful dead ripoffs. rolleyes



Huh? confused
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Reply #9 posted 04/28/05 10:23am

magnificentpen
tatonic

Anxiety said:

not on every level, no...but it's all relative. some people are so together that i feel like a bumbling freak, then i get around other people and i feel like the freakin' buddha.

i think i'm getting closer, though.


i hear ya!

i think its my job that's keeping me from reaching my full potential.
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Reply #10 posted 04/28/05 10:25am

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I do not understand the concept. Sell actualization what exactly?

If we were all so "together" then there would be no creativity.
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Reply #11 posted 04/28/05 10:29am

magnificentpen
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thesexofit said:

I do not understand the concept. Sell actualization what exactly?

If we were all so "together" then there would be no creativity.


i disagree, i think there would be much more, also SA contiues throughout life, which means that there are millions being born who are nowhere near their highest achievment. lol
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Reply #12 posted 04/28/05 10:32am

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magnificentpentatonic said:

thesexofit said:

I do not understand the concept. Sell actualization what exactly?

If we were all so "together" then there would be no creativity.


i disagree, i think there would be much more, also SA contiues throughout life, which means that there are millions being born who are nowhere near their highest achievment. lol


U dont believe in playing god with unborn babies do u? U know, decide its sex and rid of baby if it has a mental condition or whatever before it is born?

I also do not beleive in pushing anyone to acheive what society would consider as greatness.
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Reply #13 posted 04/28/05 10:39am

Anxiety

magnificentpentatonic said:



i hear ya!

i think its my job that's keeping me from reaching my full potential.


my job is one problem, though i hope to have that taken care of within the next week (i'm in the process of getting a new job). the bigger picture is not needing to have a jay-oh-bee and being able to sustain myself with my writing. i'm finally starting to really take this goal seriously, and start looking at what i've done in the past and how i can use it to take myself to the next level, whatever that is.
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Reply #14 posted 04/28/05 10:41am

sinisterpentat
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thesexofit said:

magnificentpentatonic said:



i disagree, i think there would be much more, also SA contiues throughout life, which means that there are millions being born who are nowhere near their highest achievment. lol


U dont believe in playing god with unborn babies do u? U know, decide its sex and rid of baby if it has a mental condition or whatever before it is born?

I also do not beleive in pushing anyone to acheive what society would consider as greatness.


no, i don't belive in "playing god", though i would have a lot to think about if my child is going to be born with defects and what those defects are.

Hey man, SA is within you, if you want to be a garbage man and you're content with that, good for you. thumbs up!

SA is just a desire to do and be the best YOU can be at whatever that thing is.


balloons
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Reply #15 posted 04/28/05 10:45am

sinisterpentat
onic

Anxiety said:

magnificentpentatonic said:



i hear ya!

i think its my job that's keeping me from reaching my full potential.


my job is one problem, though i hope to have that taken care of within the next week (i'm in the process of getting a new job). the bigger picture is not needing to have a jay-oh-bee and being able to sustain myself with my writing. i'm finally starting to really take this goal seriously, and start looking at what i've done in the past and how i can use it to take myself to the next level, whatever that is.


Good luck! i like hearing positive news like this. i guess thats what it comes down to, when you say fuck it, i'm doing this no matter what!

now if i only had the balls to quit my job, believe me i've been talking about it for years! it's hard to let go of something secure, but if it's an obstacle sooner or later i'll have to break it down/cut it loose.

balloons
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Reply #16 posted 04/28/05 10:46am

thesexofit

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sinisterpentatonic said:

thesexofit said:



U dont believe in playing god with unborn babies do u? U know, decide its sex and rid of baby if it has a mental condition or whatever before it is born?

I also do not beleive in pushing anyone to acheive what society would consider as greatness.


no, i don't belive in "playing god", though i would have a lot to think about if my child is going to be born with defects and what those defects are.

Hey man, SA is within you, if you won't to be a garbage man and you're content with that, good for you. thumbs up!

SA is just a desire to do and be the best YOU can be at whatever that thing is.



I do need motivation. but this desire to be the best I just dont think fulfills u mentally. i think nothing can completely. At the end of the day, the dream is worth more then the prize. Plus u ain't got nothing if u aint got love.

People who try at EVERYTHING just smacks of desparation to PROVE what they got. I ain't gonna sweat mentally as I got nothing to prove the world. But I may change who knows?
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Reply #17 posted 04/28/05 10:47am

sinisterpentat
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thesexofit said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



no, i don't belive in "playing god", though i would have a lot to think about if my child is going to be born with defects and what those defects are.

Hey man, SA is within you, if you won't to be a garbage man and you're content with that, good for you. thumbs up!

SA is just a desire to do and be the best YOU can be at whatever that thing is.



I do need motivation. but this desire to be the best I just dont think fulfills u mentally. i think nothing can completely. At the end of the day, the dream is worth more then the prize. Plus u ain't got nothing if u aint got love.

People who try at EVERYTHING just smacks of desparation to PROVE what they got. I ain't gonna sweat mentally as I got nothing to prove the world. But I may change who knows?



man, you just don't get it, do you? hmm lol
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Reply #18 posted 04/28/05 10:53am

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sinisterpentatonic said:

thesexofit said:




I do need motivation. but this desire to be the best I just dont think fulfills u mentally. i think nothing can completely. At the end of the day, the dream is worth more then the prize. Plus u ain't got nothing if u aint got love.

People who try at EVERYTHING just smacks of desparation to PROVE what they got. I ain't gonna sweat mentally as I got nothing to prove the world. But I may change who knows?



man, you just don't get it, do you? hmm lol



sad Yeah i do. To be what u can be potentially. But alot of this "reach ur goal" thing just ain't me. Maybe where i grew up or more surroundings have something to do with this? I only want to be capable of really finding true love. Everything else are just dreams. I enjoy hanging with freinds and playing sports. Thats really all i wanna do. In some ways, iam glad I have no potential to be anything great.
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Reply #19 posted 04/28/05 10:59am

sinisterpentat
onic

thesexofit said:

sinisterpentatonic said:




man, you just don't get it, do you? hmm lol



sad Yeah i do. To be what u can be potentially. But alot of this "reach ur goal" thing just ain't me. Maybe where i grew up or more surroundings have something to do with this? I only want to be capable of really finding true love. Everything else are just dreams. I enjoy hanging with freinds and playing sports. Thats really all i wanna do. In some ways, iam glad I have no potential to be anything great.


i ain't mad at ya.
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Reply #20 posted 04/28/05 11:04am

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sinisterpentatonic said:

thesexofit said:




sad Yeah i do. To be what u can be potentially. But alot of this "reach ur goal" thing just ain't me. Maybe where i grew up or more surroundings have something to do with this? I only want to be capable of really finding true love. Everything else are just dreams. I enjoy hanging with freinds and playing sports. Thats really all i wanna do. In some ways, iam glad I have no potential to be anything great.


i ain't mad at ya.


Yeah i know, I aint mad at u. I have big respect for people who do chase dreams or try and be the best at what they wanna be. But I just think the way media like movies, tv etc.....is obsessed with being famous or whatever, has made a 20th century obsession with becoming all u can be, at whatever u do. There is nothing wrong with being average.
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Reply #21 posted 04/28/05 11:57am

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no, I'm not sure I ever will. neutral
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Reply #22 posted 04/28/05 12:06pm

catharsis

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the bigger picture is not needing to have a jay-oh-bee and being able to sustain myself with my writing. i'm finally starting to really take this goal seriously,


If you want to take it seriously, you should start by acknowledging that writing is a job too! That is the problem with some artictic activities; since society doesn't see them as "proper", even those of us who actually do them start to see them as just a "hobby" too. It pisses me off that people smile condescendingly when I tell them I'm a screenwriter (since they don't see an economical future in that), but nod approvingly when I say I'm also a teacher. Believe in yourself! With your wit and way with words, I'm sure you can make it.
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Reply #23 posted 04/28/05 12:07pm

Lleena

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thesexofit said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



i ain't mad at ya.


Yeah i know, I aint mad at u. I have big respect for people who do chase dreams or try and be the best at what they wanna be. But I just think the way media like movies, tv etc.....is obsessed with being famous or whatever, has made a 20th century obsession with becoming all u can be, at whatever u do. There is nothing wrong with being average.



Dont measure your achievements against anybody elses. Its to do with fulfilling your potential as a human being, irrespective of anybody else.
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Reply #24 posted 04/28/05 12:10pm

catharsis

Lleena said:

thesexofit said:



Yeah i know, I aint mad at u. I have big respect for people who do chase dreams or try and be the best at what they wanna be. But I just think the way media like movies, tv etc.....is obsessed with being famous or whatever, has made a 20th century obsession with becoming all u can be, at whatever u do. There is nothing wrong with being average.



Dont measure your achievements against anybody elses. Its to do with fulfilling your potential as a human being, irrespective of anybody else.


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Reply #25 posted 04/28/05 1:46pm

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Maybe my Psychology is a little rusty, but isn’t that supposed to happen late in life, like right before you die? I remember writing a paper on the movie “ Grosse Point Blank” in college using it as an example of Jung’s theory. Hehehehe…

But I think I get what is being said, nod and in my case….

No, I have not reached my potential yet, but I’m sure I will. I’m the type of person that over analyzes EVERYTHING and I try to find where the opportunities for self development lie in each and every experience I have.

It’s funny I see this thread today because this is what I am focused on in my life now. I see so many things about myself that I was blind to before. I am trying with every inch of my being to create, within myself and within my personal and work environments, my own individualized ideal.

I was just saying to Byron the other day that I wondered how many people did make that a priority in their lives. I think more people should. The peace and positive and supportive energy that surrounds you when you begin to look deeper into your everyday and mundane is insurmountable!
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #26 posted 04/28/05 1:47pm

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catharsis said:

Lleena said:




Dont measure your achievements against anybody elses. Its to do with fulfilling your potential as a human being, irrespective of anybody else.


nod



You can NEVER compare two people, two situations, two environments. You can only know what YOU are capable of and strive to reach that ideal. nod
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Reply #27 posted 04/28/05 1:50pm

Number23

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Number23 said:

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Reply #29 posted 04/28/05 1:52pm

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Self-actualization, self-actualischmation! In the words of Sidney Freedman, "Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice."
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