I was talking to our accountant the other day about The Amazing Race and we got on to the topic of Rob & Amber. This led into a very interesting discussion about whether 'tis better to be a strong person who will do whatever it takes to "win", or a "nice" person who is more concerned with ethics.

Personally, I've learned through experience that most women prefer a strong man over a nice guy and that, if you're talking about romantic success, the latter tends to finish "last". This does make me feel bad, as I like "nice guys" and think we need more of them in this world, but - frankly - I'd rather have the girl.

Your thoughts?

You were right Johnny you can't win no matter what you do

I only ever dated the bad boy once, and for me that was enough. I like the nice guys now. Well, always did, but every once in a while you surprise yourself.

I'd like to think I'm a "nice guy", but - truthfully - I know that I've become quite the competitor over the years.

I freely admit that I'm the latter and to some extent I find your theory to be true. But then, we are all different. Same with fellas I guess. Some like bolshy and brash girls others like girly girls. Interesting things are humans.

To be honest, competitive-ness (competivity? ) for me is SUCH a turn off. I really don't get it. I've never understood that mentality.

Nice guys make better husbands

i honestly think this is horseshit.



these generalisations just don't hold water, as far as i'm concerned, though i understand why people might think otherwise.

Everyone is different. In my experience it's a lot more complicated than bad boy / nice guy, and different men and women go for different things.

Ace said:

I think a combination.

The quality of "A strong person who will do whatever it takes to win" and who can be strong at approriate times easily works for the "Nice guy with ethics" too.

I.E. Just 'cos you're a nice guy, doesnt make you a wet lettuce, It's just knowing when to be strong.

The attraction to bad boys seem to be mainly superficial and those relationships never last. Most women will learn to appreciate a nice guy as they get older. The only problem is that by that time the nice guys have issues due to all the rejections and the women have their own for dealing with bad boys for so long.

RocknRollisalive said:

very true!

CarrieMpls said:

Guys sometimes have no option though. If we don't fight (not literally) for the girl she will think we don't care or are pussies and she'll pick the more dominant male.

analbolique said:

Sad, but true. You cannot win in life.

You can be both though. You can have the bad ass that is nice until he has to be bad...right?

That's what I have now and it's fabulous!

analbolique said:

Yes, women want the Dominant male. They want the Alpha-wolf.

CarrieLee said:

This is the balance we all strive for.

Ace said:

It's not impossible. I've dated men that were too nice, to the point they were pussies and let me get away with anything. The one I have now is an absolute sweetheart, but if I get out of line he's not someone that's afraid to tell me I'm being an asshole and to knock it off.

Ace said:

maybe some, maybe even most do. just that I never have. But I realize I'm not probably not your typical girl when it comes to these things. I'm generally attracted to the shy, book-ish types.

I agree, horseshit generalisations again

Taureau said:

If I wasn't such a nice guy, I'd come over there and kick your ass!

lollyp0p said:

Ahhhhh Dirty Dancing.. my favorite movie!

BabyCakes said:

Ace said:

Chicks love it though don't they?

Taureau said:

Ace said:

lollyp0p said:

Right back at ya darlin!!!!

BabyCakes said:

BY the way, the line that follows goes a lil something like this..

You listen to me.... you can.(pause) yeah, i use to think so....

Nice doesn't necessarily equate push over. I think (imo) most women admire a combination of strength and sensitivity in equal measure.

Lleena said:

recipe 4 the perfect man

Pimp/church boy /with some thuggishness
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