analbolique said:

where do you live?

Anxiety said:

Over here in Holland I don't see guys painting their faces white and wearing wigs unless they're drag queens.

eikonoklastes said:

i was responding to this:



i think i misunderstood - i thought the poster was saying that idealizing blonde hair and fair skin wasn't a common practice anymore. wigs and powder makes more sense. never mind!

PurpleThunder said:

Well written! The assumption that it is related to insecurity negates the fact it is related to whom many of us are as girls in general! I love being a woman... I love all the fussy fun girlie things there for us. I can see that it goes too far at times as well as I can respect the natural beauty of Deja and others. Live and let live!!!!!



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I think that Joey does make a good point. It is ridiculous that some women will not leave the house without full make up, even if going to the gym, play sport, dig the garden etc.

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

I never said people can't do this or that, so I don't understand what all the fuss is about. When I say it goes too far it has nothing to do with the esthetic value of it or lack of. That's not the point at all.

eikonoklastes said:

I never assumed your position. I offered one from a girlie girl from the salon industry. I loveeeee being z girl! ( Insert Jessica Parker here) I also ofer that I admire woman with naural beauty which I do not posess. Is this insecure? no.... it is relative. I see Deja and Ocean and formerlyknownas as natural examples. Though this is not what I am called to be they are examples of another end of the balance I admire. Of something I cannot be nor was created to be but admire!

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

thats how i feel about all of that

analbolique said:

I don't use any of the above and I am still insecure, maybe I should start?

bkw said:

my mum is like that. when I was about to go to the hospital to have a baby she said wait and disappeared to the bathroom to put on the full war paint (at 3am!?!) while I laboured away in the hallway!

this is funny, i often forget how some women out there have those type of insecurities with the makeup and all. I'm more use to hearing the type of insecurities that make women look stupid, like fighting a woman over her boyfriend, comparing themselves to other women or starving herself because she thinks she's fat even though she weights 130 pounds (which is considered skinny to me).

When i was in college, i always felt out of place because most of the girls in my classes would wear makeup to class and dress like they were going to expensive restaurants every damn day with 3 inch heels (boots and sandals). I never wore make up to class, I never wore my best outfits to class neither. Most of the time my hair was in a pony tail, and i went about my business. I only put on my top notch outfits, shoes, and make up when i was actually going out somewhere special. Looking back, i applaud myself for just being myself, because as long as i'm comfortable with me and my ways, thats all that matters.
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men make us that way! the commercials the magazines.

analbolique said:

Says the man who work out like mad to get muscles that doesn't mean ANYTHING! Your muscles are useless in REAL life, they will not help you do anything but get women...and considering how much time you spend on here that's debatable too. If we were back in the stone age people with muscles like yours would get left behind because they cannot carry out a hunt properly, and it takes a lot of energy to keep those up. Your muscles are nothing but a boob job without the operation.
I've been wanting that off my chest for a while. Woo-hoo!

SammiJ said:

Well said girl

PurpleThunder said:

It's the steroids he's on.... or the anti-depressants he needs to function. Like me.

Teacher said:

Yet I don't feel lost without them. Just like a few others you fail to realize that I don't have anything against women wearing make up, not at all.

As for my body, in the stone age I would not have a body like this period. I also don't have anything against boob jobs or any other form of plastic surgery. My muscles don't get me any women. They're too big, but that's OK, it's not what got me into this lifestyle in the first place.

analbolique said:

Sure you don't have anything against women wearing make up, you married a woman who makes a living of her looks, and don't tell me there are women in her line of work who don't wear a bit of stuff to look better.

I like myself wearing glasses, hair in a ponytail, no makeup and sweatpants on. I also like myself in high heels, a skirt, makeup and contacts. They're both me.

I wouldn't call that insecure.

Putting on makeup before one wakes is not insecurity.

Think about when you were young, and the things you did with a new girlfriend, or boyfriend.

Im not insecure when it comes to the "looks" issue.....I might put makeup on, and dress alittle more, how do I say, "office oriented" maybe 3-4 times a week. But the rest of the week is hair pulled back, jeans and a "cute" tee( no makeup).....If you find me attractive, "thank you".....if not, well that is your opinion.....

Ive had too make insecurites in my life....."looks" are the least of my worries
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AsianBomb777 said:

amorbella said:

ditto

missfee said:

Teacher said:

Right and I didn't marry her for her looks. She has implants too. On the other hand when she's not working (which she hasn't done for two years now) she doesn't wear any make up at all. No extravagant clothing either. Jeans, top, sneakers and a baseball cap.

TaoOfGimp said:

They are insecure cause of dopes like me that let things affect his decision. But i learn my lesson, never make your woman or whateva insecure. Show them that they are the shit and the best thing u ever had.

saintsation said:

ya know though ... real security comes from within ... no matter what the outside world shows/tells ya

the outside positive influences can be nice but wont matter if the inside doesn't believe in itself

I don't think that makes a woman insecure. I put on makeup before I leave pretty much 99% of the time but it's not because i'm insecure. I wouldn't rush out of bed so i could put on makeup, I don't really look much different with the makeup on.

BabyGirl said:

You're in denial.

analbolique said:

No way dude If I could look older without the makeup, I probably wouldnt wear it lol...but Id rather not fit in with the highschoolers