Janfriend said:

I luv you!! I don't know you but I luv you!
Preach on sista!!

missfee said:

Hotlegs said:

Skating will be so much fun.....

funkpill said:

Indeed. I finally would have need to take up Ice Skating lessons.
[Edited 2/7/05 15:01pm]

Hotlegs said:

I think its funny how Karamo was grossed out by Shavonda having sex with Landon but wasnt grossed out by putting MJ's underwear over his head and sniffing them during the game of Truth or Dare.

amcam said:

That happens every season. That's why I've lost interest in "The Real World". There's always that one person who's like "Ooooooh, I have a boyfriend/girlfriend, but it's gonna be FIVE MONTHS, so I couldn't POSSIBLY remain faithful to them!"

dreamfactory313 said:

Why are we discussing young minded individuals on a TV show? It is obvious that these folks on TV have not experienced "life" for the most part and have narrow views on things. Once this poor confused child "Vonda" hits the real world apart from TV she will learn what it is to be African American whether she likes it or not. So there is no need in getting mad over any of it or causing arguments. Once these people have lived longer, had more relationships, dealt with co-workers and etc. Trust me, things will damn sure look differently. I thought the southern racist attitudes were gone until I had to drive across the country. Peoples mentalities are what they are and there is nothing anything anyone can do about it. Why do we care what a bunch of 20 year olds are doing on MTV? Especially, us "Grown Folks"!?!?! We know damn well that you can't mess around on the job! (But we do it anyway.) We know Shavonda will figure it out much later once she is in a real relationship that if you want a man you can't go around sleeping with other folks! We is the argument here? Life and opinions are what they are. They are different, they suck, they're racism, they're wrong and everyone has one. Give them all time to see the episodes and check out the reunion in about ten years. Shit will have their opinions and attitudes about a whole lot of things. Everything takes time. Stop beating a dead horse!

Hotlegs said:

I consider myself mixed, or Metis. Oddly enough, I'm legally considered Metis, but I've been told that I don't qualify for Metis status. According to our government, I'm Metis, except I'm not. Yeah, I don't get it either.

beret1022 said:

If you honestly believe that, I feel sorry for you.

dreamfactory313 said:

Exactly.

meow85 said:

Before orgnoting you, I am going to assume the Native/White relations there are same as the Native/White relations here except our Natives are almost extinct thanks to our wonderful government I think it is different when a group of people already exist on a land and another group takes control of it. You get to keep your culture. The displaced Africans in America, better known as Black Americans or African Americans are in a different situation. We were taken from our lands, robbed of our culture, our traditions, our language, our families, and our dignity. Like I said before, it's the same as taking a child and then raping it. Our people have been raped on a large scale.



That's because most of them do



You know this, how? Whatever you read or see on tv about the U.S. is nothing compared to living here, even a white person will tell you that.Maybe things are different in Canada.I think race relations in the U.S. are different than anywhere else because of our history



Glad we agree on something

ShySlantedEye1 said:

Like I said, this show isn't even that interesting. Too bad that we will never get to see the truly interesting version of the show, which will happen 10 years from now, when these people are more mature.

dreamfactory313 said:

I forgot about that.

Is anybody watching this show right now? LOL - not going to say what's happening, but there's BIG drama going on right now.

psychodelicide said:

I saw a promo & was tempted but I don't think I can make it through another, "they hate me! I wanna come home!" crying session

I just turned to it. I usually watch the Real World on MTV OnDemand on weekends. They have all the episodes compiled so that u can watch at your own convience sort of like Ti-Vo.

CalhounSq said:

I'll bet she won't go home, she probably will wind up staying. I've watched this show enough to be able to kind of predict what will happen.

dreamfactory313 said:

I don't get MTV OnDemand, but that sounds awesome!

Shavondas? you mean people who aren't constantly hung up on race bullshit?



i know a lot of Shavondas. but not enough of them apparently.
[Edited 2/9/05 4:23am]

meow85 said:

It's really not that different at all.



You believe this?



Instead, the land was taken from the people and the people were forced onto reservations. Is it supposed to be any better in reverse?



I did say it was the same story, didn't I? Native children in Canada were taken from their families and forced to go to church and government run Residential Schools. In these schools, they were taught that their traditonal way of life was barbaric and something to be ashamed of. They would be beaten for speaking their own language, and as a result, many languages have been lost, probably forever. Countless numbers of these children suffered physical, emotional, and sexual abuse, and as an indirect result many of the victims have drug and alchohol problems. Some of these schools were still running as recently as the 1970's. Once they graduated these schools, many were no longer welcome back into their native communities because they were too "white", and also rejected by white society because they were too "Indian".

As another example: the Potlatch. Potlatch is Chinook jargon, and means "to give". It refers to a ceremony common to peoples on the Northwest Coast and parts of the Interior. The potlatch ceremony marks important occasions in the lives of the Kwak'wala groups: the naming of children, marriage, transferring rights and privileges and mourning the dead. Guests witnessing the event are given gifts. The more gifts distributed, the higher the status achieved by the potlatch giver. It is a time for pride. Frustration over unsuccessful attempts to "civilize" the people of the potlatch led officials, teachers, and missionaries to pressure the federal government into enacting legislation prohibiting the ceremonies. It was made illegal because it wasn't a white, "civilized" activity.

How about the right to vote? It was 1969 when all Native adults -men and women -got the right to vote across the entire country. 1969
And so have ours.




From his perspective, yes. But in the bigger picture? I have a hard time believing that most straight people hate gay people, just as I have a hard time believing most white people hate black people. There will always be bigoted assholes, but not as many as some think there are.



I can't say it for fact, just as you can't say for fact that most white people hate black people.

psychodelicide said:

Oh Lord, did they find another person who's "too punk rock" to be on the show? Pathetic!

ViennaGold said:

No, not "too punk rock", just someone who is very opinioniated, and always talking, not listening to others. Not sure which is worse, to be honest.

On off topic side note next years real world is being filmed in austin texas right now check out the link http://www.therealworldaustin.com/

MPLSRAINBOW said:

BTW here is pic of this years house

Thanks for the link. Nice to know that I'm not the only orger who likes this show.

here is pick of two cast members from dizzy rooster in austin

Is that condoms around there neck

AUSTIN?! are they crazy? They could've at least picked Dallas or Houston. When are they comin' to Atlanta? They've been passing up Atlanta for years and it's starting to make me wonder... They're running out of options.