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ReturnOfDOOK

Red Bull and Vodka

Red Bull Won't Boost Alcohol Buzz
Any Mood Boost Is Likely Wishful Thinking, Study Shows

By Jeanie Lerche Davis
Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
on Tuesday, September 14, 2004
WebMD Medical News



Sept. 14, 2004 -- Think Red Bull will let you party longer? That's just an urban myth, according to a new Brazilian study.

Energy drinks like Red Bull -- which contain caffeine and other stimulants -- have gained popularity in recent years. A handful of studies have fueled a theory that energy drinks can delay the depressive effects of alcohol.

But the drinks don't contain enough caffeine to do that, writes researcher Maria Lucia O. Souza Formigoni, PhD, a psychobiologist with the Federal University of Sao Paulo in Brazil.

Her report, which appears in the latest issue of Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research, set out to dispel that urban myth.

"In Brazil, as in other countries, the use of 'energy drinks' such as Red Bull is relatively common in bars and night clubs," says Formigoni in a news release. "Many young people use them mixed with vodka, whisky, and other spirits." The combination may give people the sensation of less alcohol effects. But their driving judgment will be comprised.

In fact, Formigoni has surveyed people in nightclubs -- asking whether they mixed energy drinks with alcohol, why, and what effects they noticed. Three-quarters of the clubbers cited "increasing the alcohol stimulant effects" as their reason. The main effects were happiness, euphoria, extroversion, and increased vigor.

In her current study, Formigoni tested 14 healthy male volunteers; in four sessions, each one week apart, they got a different drink -- either water, an alcoholic drink, an energy drink, or alcohol plus an energy drink. Then, they jumped on a bicycle to test their performance. Their blood was also tested for mood hormones and other changes.

When all this was factored together, it was curtains for the Red Bull-and-alcohol myth. At various points in the test, heart rate was significantly faster and adrenaline levels were higher, she notes. However, researchers found no performance or mood-boosting effects.

There is some evidence that energy drinks can reduce anxiety or tremors before competition, she notes. However, the effect on performance and delay in recovery work against that positive effect.

The boost that partiers feel may simply be wishful thinking -- a placebo effect, she writes.

"Young people should ... be careful when using these drinks together until more evidence is available," she writes.

SOURCE: Formigoni, M. Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research, Sept. 2004: vol 28.

http://content.health.msn...102643.htm
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Reply #1 posted 09/20/04 11:39am

paintsprayer

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ReturnOfDOOK said:

"Young people should ... be careful when using these drinks together until more evidence is available,"




However the elderly can go ahead and drink what ever the hell they want
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Reply #2 posted 09/20/04 11:53am

OdysseyMiles

paintsprayer said:

ReturnOfDOOK said:

"Young people should ... be careful when using these drinks together until more evidence is available,"




However the elderly can go ahead and drink what ever the hell they want


falloff
Actually, Vodka and Redbull go together pretty well. So do 151 and Redbull,
rum and Coke, and Hennesy & Coke, ooh and there's Hairy Buffalo.....
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Reply #3 posted 09/20/04 11:55am

kobra

saphire gin and red bulls are Dick Cheneys drink of choice!
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Reply #4 posted 09/20/04 12:11pm

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I'm still stuck on this sentence:

ReturnOfDOOK said:

The combination may give people the sensation of less alcohol effects.


Why would anyone want to do that? whofarted
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Reply #5 posted 09/20/04 12:43pm

MNlivingCA

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Did someone say vodka?

*giggle*


I agree with this article, as an avid vodka drinker- I have tasted many different mixes.... red bull- though a favorite of mine- DOES delay the effect of the vodka- If you want me to do more test studies- I would be HAPPY to volunteer!!!! *giggle*
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Reply #6 posted 09/20/04 2:23pm

way2funky

Nothing beats Red Bull and Jagermeister.... Liquid Viagra! lol
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Reply #7 posted 09/20/04 2:23pm

jerseykrs

OMG, all my friends think I'm weird for drinking these, but I almost don't want anything but when I have the money to spare..... as long as it's good vodka, the cheap shit is swill.
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Reply #8 posted 09/20/04 2:28pm

J0eyC0c0

minneapolisgenius said:

I'm still stuck on this sentence:

ReturnOfDOOK said:

The combination may give people the sensation of less alcohol effects.


Why would anyone want to do that? whofarted


Probably has to do with the whole "I can drink more than you" bullshit.
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Reply #9 posted 09/20/04 2:32pm

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J0eyC0c0 said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I'm still stuck on this sentence:



Why would anyone want to do that? whofarted


Probably has to do with the whole "I can drink more than you" bullshit.

That's cheating then. mad
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Reply #10 posted 09/20/04 2:52pm

J0eyC0c0

minneapolisgenius said:

J0eyC0c0 said:



Probably has to do with the whole "I can drink more than you" bullshit.

That's cheating then. mad


Actually the joke's on them for spending more money on getting drunk than they need to. wink
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