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Thread started 06/23/04 4:51pm

meltwithu

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Are Soul music and Rock and Roll as we knew it dead?

There are really no new "soul" music singers/groups around...i mean like the Stylistics, Spinners, New Birth..etc. Nor is there anybody really around to carry the rock and roll torch. Are they really gone or are they just dormant right now, waiting for a resurgence.
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/04 5:16pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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dormant...nothing is ever really "gone"...soul and rock r gonna comeback real soon i bet..and when it does its gonna come HARD!!!!!
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Reply #2 posted 06/24/04 1:51pm

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If R& B radio would expand it's playlist, music would be a lot better off.

Right now all that is played is Usher, Beyonce, and Alicia.

The talent is out there, but it's not played.


Rock is in a much healthier place.
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Reply #3 posted 06/24/04 2:39pm

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procrastination101 said:

If R& B radio would expand it's playlist, music would be a lot better off.

Right now all that is played is Usher, Beyonce, and Alicia.

The talent is out there, but it's not played.


Rock is in a much healthier place.

Neither is dead. But good point though.

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Reply #4 posted 06/24/04 2:44pm

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The White Stripes sound like rock & roll to me.
But I haven't heard much else lately.

As for soul, for a while it seemed good, with D'Angelo, Macy Gray, Erykah Badu, Jill Scott, Angie Stone.
But I haven't heard from any of them in a while.

So your question is unfortunately valid.

Maybe dead like jazz, blues, or classical.
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Reply #5 posted 06/24/04 4:07pm

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well soul music will never die as long as we still have old cds, 8 tracks, 45's and cassette tapes of them. also old school stations are very popular and play this music everyday.

i can see what u are saying, there isn't really any group out here now that can hold the pipes compared to the dells...everytime i hear "stay in my corner" it gives me that deep feeling inside.

as for rock and roll, to me the hives remind me 2 much of the rolling stones. i can't help trying to figure out if they are sincere or are they just giving their best mick jagger impression....
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Reply #6 posted 06/26/04 8:33am

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I pretty much agree with what people are saying. Both musics are on life support. We just have to wait to see if they can wake up.
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Reply #7 posted 06/26/04 8:36am

namepeace

andyman91 said:

The White Stripes sound like rock & roll to me.
But I haven't heard much else lately.

As for soul, for a while it seemed good, with D'Angelo, Macy Gray, Erykah Badu, Jill Scott, Angie Stone.
But I haven't heard from any of them in a while.

So your question is unfortunately valid.

Maybe dead like jazz, blues, or classical.


First, to answer the question. Yes. I think the question was correctly phrased in the past tense. As we knew it, it will never return again.

That doesn't mean the genres are dead. As for Rock music, a lot of folks talk about bands like the White Stripes, Wilco, Radiohead, etc., so it's still viable.

As for soul music, I agree with procrastination101 and andyman91. If you listen to the radio, you'd believe R&B was a wasteland. But Me'Shell Ndegeocello alone would keep it alive. Factor in newer acts like Amp Fiddler, Dwele, Donnie, Remy Shand, Rhian Benson, Amel Larrieux, and vivian green, and the lesser-known Ledisi, and the "neo-soul" staples Maxwell, D'Angelo, Badu, Jill Scott, and Musiq, and you've got a good future for soul music. It might not be like it was in the 70's, but hey, it's good for its time, which is enough.
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/04 9:03am

Raine

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its not dead but we dont get to hear many good artists because of record companys and managers a prime example of this attitude is that arse who manages westlife & tv show bands wall barf boo

"its only 10% talent and 90% image" shake
" you measure sucess by how much money they earn" shoot3

these are the enemys of real music commercial gain above all else mad
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Reply #9 posted 06/26/04 9:19am

DigitalGardin

meltwithu said:

There are really no new "soul" music singers/groups around...i mean like the Stylistics, Spinners, New Birth..etc. Nor is there anybody really around to carry the rock and roll torch. Are they really gone or are they just dormant right now, waiting for a resurgence.



You know..I was just telling someone this the other day. I think that soul and rock isnt dead but they're dormant right now...it will rise again..one day..I hope. I noticed that most of the albums I listen to is from the 80's or before...
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/04 4:53pm

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man..i'm 36 and i miss hearing those songs back in the day that actually told a STORY..like Sideshow by Blue Magic, Sadie and Love Don't Love Nobody by the Spinners...Miss You by the OJays...Toby and Have You Seen Her by the Chi Lites...there's just nothing out there remotely close right now
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Reply #11 posted 06/26/04 7:36pm

namepeace

I've got "Could It Be I'm Falling In Love" on repeat right now. Must be a Spinners' day.
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Reply #12 posted 06/27/04 9:03am

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Reply #13 posted 06/27/04 10:08am

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You Can't Kill Rock And Roll

How many times can they fill me with lies
And I listen, again
Twisting the truth
And they're playin' around with my head O.K.
The things they will do
And the things they will say
When they don't really understand
Tears fill my eyes when I hear all the cries
For the reason today

And they don't really know
Even what they're talkin' about
And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve.


Leave me alone
Don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock'n'roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change,
May think it's strange
You can't kill rock'n'roll
It's here to stay.


Looking through eyes of time
Mirrors reflecting their
stories untrue
Promises promises,
Telling me all of my glories overdue.
How many times have I heard it before
And I'll probably hear it again
King of a thousand knights,
Pawn in a table fight Losing to you.

And they don't really know
Even what they're talkin' about
And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve.


Leave me alone
Don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock'n'roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change,
May think it's strange
You can't kill rock'n'roll it's here to stay.


Even the rhymes that they give me in times of confession
ain't true
Outcome is obvious
All for them none for us meaning you too

The things they will do
And the things they will say
When they don't really understand
Fear of rejection I need their protection
I'm making a stand

And they don't really know
Even what they're talkin' about
And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve.


Leave me alone
Don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock'n'roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change,
May think it's strange
You can't kill rock'n'roll it's here to stay

Leave me alone
Don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock'n'roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change,
May think it's strange
You can't kill rock'n'roll it's here to stay
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/04 1:30pm

DigitalGardin

My friend went on another board on the net and someone was talking about wanting to buy a particular CD by Miles Davis. and someone responded that if he came in his hood talking about Miles Davis, he would get a beatdown mad eek thats the musical climate that we are living in..Miles Davis is out but Petey Pablo is in...WTF have we come to?
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