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In light of that MJ award crap... LightOfArt said: LightOfArt said: ...alot of useless and worthless award info...
Neversin said: In case you haven't noticed yet...
We live in a day and age where the likes of Eminem, Britney Spears, Limp Biscuit etc. etc. etc. win awards... Now what does that say about awards? Oh and people who win awards should thank the people who pay for them i.e. their record company, PR people etc... What I'm trying to say is winning an award doesn't mean you're good or talented it just means you have alot of money and publicity backup... Neversin. I was trying to prove that Michael is not a "hasbeen". And those names you mentioned are todays hot stars. so thats what I meant to say. He is NOT a has-been. thanks for backing up Learn to read you might get educated... and what was you gonna say If Prince was the most awarded? Awards was going to
be considered important if P got them. No, but mj got them so they must be "useless and worthless" Ah, I see you've never read any of my posts regarding awards... If someone wins an award (including Prince) it doesn't mean shit... But you, just like many others, obviously don't know anything about how "The Industry" works and your presumption about the importance of an award was just formed by "The Industry" (because it generates money for them...) and the people who are bought to hand them out... Anyways Eminem and the others aint got the prestigous awards Mike got, like:
Bambi Awards: Pop Artist Of The Millennium World Music Awards: Artist Of The Millenium to name a few Do you really think MJ would win an award for "Artist Of The Millenium" if Mozart or Ellington were still alive and had major bucks backing them up? Neversin. [This message was edited Thu Jun 24 8:09:33 2004 by Neversin] O(+>NIИ<+)O
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the awards are just a silly tradition that has now turned into nothing more than new avenues in advertising. it is foolish to deny mj's stature as the world's largest pop star. his last release (of new material) went to number one and sold several million copies worldwide, an accomplishment that most would consider successful.
his greatest hits did not fair so well, in my opinion, because it was no different than history. most people already have those songs and, thanks to downloading, can get them for free rather than than pay 18.99 for the disc. when these other so called kings of pop can still sell millions of records 30 years into their career, we'll update this conversation. | |
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SassyBritches said: it is foolish to deny mj's stature as the world's largest pop star. his last release (of new material) went to number one and sold several million copies worldwide, an accomplishment that most would consider successful.
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SassyBritches said: the awards are just a silly tradition that has now turned into nothing more than new avenues in advertising. it is foolish to deny mj's stature as the world's largest pop star. his last release (of new material) went to number one and sold several million copies worldwide, an accomplishment that most would consider successful.
his greatest hits did not fair so well, in my opinion, because it was no different than history. most people already have those songs and, thanks to downloading, can get them for free rather than than pay 18.99 for the disc. when these other so called kings of pop can still sell millions of records 30 years into their career, we'll update this conversation. Agreed. These other artists haven't been around long enough to really be compared to Micheal. He's been entertaining since he was 9 and who's to say that some of these newbies will even be around 5 years from now. But, awards shows don't ever warrant what real talent is for me. I watch them like I'd watch an episode of "Martin"...a show is a show to me. SPREAD LOVE UNTIL THE SUN'S FINAL RISE--The Duality a.k.a. "WYNTER SKYE" | |
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SassyBritches said: when these other so called kings of pop can still sell millions of records 30 years into their career, we'll update this conversation.
This thread isn't about selling records, it's about the uselessness and worthlessness of awards that people seem to value so highly because "The Industry" told them so... Sure MJ still sells well, sure he's the largest popstar (whatever the hell that may mean and well thanks to his publicists...) but again that doesn't mean he's any good or better than whomever else... And well, in my opinion MJ is a "has been" musically, since I haven't heard anything musically interesting from him since "Off The Wall"... The only thing that keeps him relevant and in the news is his personal life and not his music... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Neversin said: The only thing that keeps him relevant and in the news is his personal life and not his music...
Neversin. That's just your opinion. Frankly I don't give a damn about his personal life. It's all about the music for me.  | |
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Cloudbuster said: Neversin said: The only thing that keeps him relevant and in the news is his personal life and not his music...
Neversin. That's just your opinion. Frankly I don't give a damn about his personal life. It's all about the music for me. If it's just my opinion then how come everytime I turn on the news or hear people talking about MJ it's not about his music but about his personal misery? Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Anyone who takes any World Music Award seriously needs a reality check. | |
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Neversin said: If it's just my opinion then how come everytime I turn on the news or hear people talking about MJ it's not about his music but about his personal misery?
Neversin. Talk to any fan and it's all about the music. The media ain't interested in the man's art and hasn't been since they cultivated the Wacko Jacko image almost 20 years ago. It's more fun to criticize than it is to praise. But to the people who care it's all about his work. You're just listening to the wrong people. | |
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Neversin said: SassyBritches said: when these other so called kings of pop can still sell millions of records 30 years into their career, we'll update this conversation.
This thread isn't about selling records, it's about the uselessness and worthlessness of awards that people seem to value so highly because "The Industry" told them so... Sure MJ still sells well, sure he's the largest popstar (whatever the hell that may mean and well thanks to his publicists...) but again that doesn't mean he's any good or better than whomever else... And well, in my opinion MJ is a "has been" musically, since I haven't heard anything musically interesting from him since "Off The Wall"... The only thing that keeps him relevant and in the news is his personal life and not his music... Neversin. tht's all very well and good and existentialist. bravo. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Anyone who takes any World Music Award seriously needs a reality check.
Tell that to that guy who posted that useless award info on MJ... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Cloudbuster said: Neversin said: If it's just my opinion then how come everytime I turn on the news or hear people talking about MJ it's not about his music but about his personal misery?
Neversin. Talk to any fan and it's all about the music. The media ain't interested in the man's art and hasn't been since they cultivated the Wacko Jacko image almost 20 years ago. It's more fun to criticize than it is to praise. But to the people who care it's all about his work. You're just listening to the wrong people. True that. I'd love to see a more serious documentary on him rather than a tabloid nightmare like the Bashit thing. It won't happen now, the media have made it impossible for themselves to do. There was a time it would have been possible, but they'd rather going on exaggerating, twisting the knife and lying about the man. Back on topic, i agree awards are irrelevant. Maybe they were worth more in the past but now everyone and their dog seems to have one, for doing very little. |
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Marrk said: Cloudbuster said: Talk to any fan and it's all about the music. The media ain't interested in the man's art and hasn't been since they cultivated the Wacko Jacko image almost 20 years ago. It's more fun to criticize than it is to praise. But to the people who care it's all about his work. You're just listening to the wrong people. True that. I'd love to see a more serious documentary on him rather than a tabloid nightmare like the Bashit thing. It won't happen now, the media have made it impossible for themselves to do. There was a time it would have been possible, but they'd rather going on exaggerating, twisting the knife and lying about the man. Back on topic, i agree awards are irrelevant. Maybe they were worth more in the past but now everyone and their dog seems to have one, for doing very little. What about the guy that put together those documentary books on MJ...why can't he do it? He's a fan, so he'd approach the project with love and respect. The Org is the short yellow bus of the Prince Internet fan community. | |
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