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so am i going to see MADONNA live or ESTHER???? Apparently she made it official... I knew she went by Esther as her "religious" name but I guess she is THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS MADONNA????!!!
I'm so confused! Madonna expresses her devotion to Judaism by changing her name to Esther 17 June People Magazine Internationally well-known pop singer Madonna has announced that she has changed her name, which has become a marker throughout her career, and now demands to be called by her new Jewish name Esther. The singer who has adopted the Jewish sector "Kabbalah", revealed that she has become so affected by her religion that she felt she must change her name to go with her belief. The well known Material Girl was named after her mother who died when the singer was young and said she wanted to be attached to the "energy" of a new name. During an interview in the United States, the Catholic born singer said that since following the teachings of the Jewish mystical faith Kabbalah - whose principles she said were very "punk rock" and anti-establishment - Madonna has learned to follow new directions. Adopted by gurus of popular culture, the Kabbalah, an ancient Hebrew mystical system of thought, embodies the mystical side of Judaism and teaches one to embrace small sparks of daily experiences and the seemingly insignificant moments of life. Madonna stressed that she will not answer to her old name and will only accept being Called Esther from now on. One of the key changes to date has been her name, "I was named after my mother. My mother died when she was very young, of cancer, and I wanted to attach myself to another name. "This is in no way a negation of who my mother is. I wanted to attach myself to the energy of a different name," Esther added. Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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this bitch is | |
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This kind of thing has been done so many times. Madonna doesn't have an original thought left in her head. This makes me sick and only re-enforces for me just how boring and silly this woman has become. | |
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kisscamille said: This kind of thing has been done so many times. Madonna doesn't have an original thought left in her head. This makes me sick and only re-enforces for me just how boring and silly this woman has become.
so is Madonna just a marketing name now? kind of like Jay-z or 50 cent? Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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purplegypsy said: kisscamille said: This kind of thing has been done so many times. Madonna doesn't have an original thought left in her head. This makes me sick and only re-enforces for me just how boring and silly this woman has become.
so is Madonna just a marketing name now? kind of like Jay-z or 50 cent? I'm not sure how to answer this. Madonna hasn't interested me in years and IMO she just gets more and more ridiculous and boring as the years go by. I lost interest in her when she released that ridiculous Truth or Dare. She definitely had her day, but her time has come and gone and I don't think anything she's done in years has been the least bit interesting. | |
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This story was reported last year at the time of American Life's release. I guess People got the memo a little late. Who knows if it's true, though. People is The National Enquirer on glossy paper. [This message was edited Thu Jun 17 8:13:49 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: This story was reported last year at the time of American Life's release. I guess People got the memo a little late. Who knows if it's true, though. People is The National Enquirer on glossy paper.
[This message was edited Thu Jun 17 8:13:49 2004 by VoicesCarry] I know that. But when the story came out it said Esther was just her "religious" name....now it's her OFFICIAL name...Madonna is no longer Madonna - I guess it's just a brand now! Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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i have an aunt named esther....
class act she is.. unlike madonna... Space for sale... | |
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NYPOST:
June 17, 2004 -- Don't call her Madonna anymore - call her Esther. In the most bizarre name change since Puff Daddy became P. Diddy, the Material Girl has adopted the ancient Hebrew name of Esther. The pop queen, whose six-night stand at Madison Square Garden started last night, says she's spooked by the fact that her mom, who was also named Madonna, died at the age of 30, when the superstar-to-be was 5. "My mother died when she was very young, of cancer, and I wanted to attach myself to an other name," Madonna, 45, told ABC News. "This is in no way a negation of who my mother was. I wanted to attach myself to the energy of a different name." While she hasn't yet asked her friends to use the new moniker, Madonna is apparently called Esther when she studies the ancient Jewish mystical practices of Kabbalah. "In her Kabbalah world, the leaders may call her that during spiritual services," said her spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg. "But while we still bow to her, we don't call her Queen Esther," Rosenberg joked, referring to the Book of Esther in the Old Testament, which tells of the Jewish wife of the king of Persia. Queen Esther used her position to save other Jews from persecution. It remains to be seen if Madonna's millions of fans will begin referring to her as Esther, which translates as "star." Meanwhile, Madonna also tells ABC, in an interview airing tomorrow, that she's got her children, Lourdes, 7, and Rocco, 3, regularly doing the household chores. "My children have to clean up their mess, clean up their rooms," she says. Madonna, who wed British director Guy Ritchie in 2000, years after her marriage to Sean Penn fell apart, also says the key to a successful marriage is "learning to apologize." One thing the entertainer regrets is some of her past actions on the way to stardom. While she doesn't go into detail, she says, "I brought a lot of chaos to people's lives because of my selfish behavior." She describes herself as "naughty child, number one," but says she now believes in the power of prayer thanks to drownedmadonna.com You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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sosgemini said: i have an aunt named esther....
class act she is.. unlike madonna... U said aunt esther Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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That old fish eyed biddie! She better watch her filthy, wig-wearing mouth - HALLELUJAH!!!! | |
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what happens if i don't call her esther? Will she give me a spanking??!!!
didn;t she say that she likes to spank others in her 1991 Rock the Vote ad? Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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Wow! --»You're my favourite moment, you're my Saturday... | |
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from Madonna.com:
Call Me Esther
Madonna also speaks candidly with McFadden about her study of Jewish mysticism known as Kabbala, which she believes is "incredibly punk rock" and anti-establishment. "Kabbalists believe in immortality. They believe that you can overcome death, overcome illness, whatever, so, it's … incredibly good to be a rebel," she said. Madonna also reveals that she has also taken on the Hebrew name of Esther, explaining that, "I was named after my mother. My mother died when she was very young, of cancer, and I wanted to attach myself to another name. This is in no way a negation of who my mother is. I wanted to attach myself to the energy of a different name." Same quotes as all over this thread, but directly from her site. No mention though how "complete" the name change is. I imagine she'll address it more on the broadcast interview. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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I can't wait for her new single "Watch It Sucker!".
Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal! | |
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sosgemini said: i have an aunt named esther....
class act she is.. unlike madonna... Do you really have an aunt Esther? That is so fucking cool. | |
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VinnyM27 said: I can't wait for her new single "Watch It Sucker!".
Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal! changing her name for religious reasons is crazier than Prince changing his name to an unpronouncable symbol? embracing a religion than celebrates the life she leads is crazier than Prince adopting one that asks him to make dramatic changes to the way he lived? and that's not to judge either, but I don't see why hers is so crazy? http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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madartista said: VinnyM27 said: I can't wait for her new single "Watch It Sucker!".
Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal! changing her name for religious reasons is crazier than Prince changing his name to an unpronouncable symbol? embracing a religion than celebrates the life she leads is crazier than Prince adopting one that asks him to make dramatic changes to the way he lived? and that's not to judge either, but I don't see why hers is so crazy? you know...i hadn't thought of it in that way. ok. they've both gone mad as a hatter! | |
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SassyBritches said: madartista said: changing her name for religious reasons is crazier than Prince changing his name to an unpronouncable symbol? embracing a religion than celebrates the life she leads is crazier than Prince adopting one that asks him to make dramatic changes to the way he lived? and that's not to judge either, but I don't see why hers is so crazy? you know...i hadn't thought of it in that way. ok. they've both gone mad as a hatter! now you're talking!!! ironically (somewhat), people who study the Kabbalah have been considered crazy since Biblical times. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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it's not weird. in fact, it seems pretty common. | |
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My God this bitch has fallen off her rocker. I can't believe this. Where's Davideye at? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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VinnyM27 said: I can't wait for her new single "Watch It Sucker!".
Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: My God this bitch has fallen off her rocker. I can't believe this. Where's Davideye at?
yeah, and she landed on top of Prince! http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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The singer who has adopted the Jewish sector "Kabbalah", revealed that she has become so affected by
Like bloody hell. She hasn't "become" affected, she's always been affected. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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purplecam said: My God this bitch has fallen off her rocker. I can't believe this. Where's Davideye at?
....says the dude with a Prince avatar | |
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Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal!
lmao! next thing u kno she'll b rightin slave on her face! Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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VoicesCarry said:[quote] purplecam said: My God this bitch has fallen off her rocker. I can't believe this. Where's Davideye at?
....says the dude with a Prince avatar [/quote} You got me there. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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madartista said: VinnyM27 said: I can't wait for her new single "Watch It Sucker!".
Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal! changing her name for religious reasons is crazier than Prince changing his name to an unpronouncable symbol? embracing a religion than celebrates the life she leads is crazier than Prince adopting one that asks him to make dramatic changes to the way he lived? and that's not to judge either, but I don't see why hers is so crazy? Prince changed his name (breifly) to screw around with a big record company that he felt was screwing him over. I thought that was a balls move but most people thought he was bonkers! I will admit that I know nothing about the Kallblah and my post really isn't judging the religon as much as I am the somewhat fickle nature of Madonna and most other celebs. She tries on hats and this one is an odd fit. She's changing the name that has brought her fame, fortune and helped her sell out a tour within seconds for a religon that she thinks is "punk rock". My point is that people have been talking about the different effects that religon has had on both Madonna and Prince lately and as it stands, Madonna is far in the lead. | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: Madonna has not only finally turned me off her but her relgious conversation is offically, in every way, shape and form, crazier than Prince's every could be. Congratulations Esther, you make Prince look normal!
lmao! next thing u kno she'll b rightin slave on her face! Actually, that wouldn't be fitting with the name change. I think she will write "You Old Heathen" on her face instead. Esther. It just has so many possibilities. | |
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VinnyM27 said: I will admit that I know nothing about the Kallblah
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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