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what.




I gotta provide proof?

No.

When i was a little kid I loved michael jackson and hated madonna because her songs were boring and she talked shit aboout michael.

Now I am no longer a michael jackson fan, i´m 21 years old and I still hate her.


she was cute back in the days, by the way. she is more like a sexual beast then a artist.
Her Zen phase is kidna forced, she was not born to meditate she was born to F..C.. oh well nevermind

You mean Esther?

paligap said:

No. Madonna. Esther - that just blows my mind. Did she not read "The History Of Name Changes and How It Affects Your Fanbase" by Prince?

otan said:

LOL!

She's not changing her name professionally -- nor personally.

Esther! Good grief!

So Michael Jackson is "eccentric" but Madonna is an idiot. Ok then.

Madonna's not an idiot. It's just that (in my opinion, anyway) as a pop culture icon and entertainer, she's losing touch.

Anxiety said:

....and yet she has the highest-grossing tour of the year.

I don't know why people are going so nuts over this. So she wants to be called Esther in private - why does that matter, exactly? It's not like Warners is gonna have to reprint all her discs and promo material with "Esther" in place of "Madonna" - you won't have to go buy an "Esther" CD.

Prince has done way more eccentric stuff but he isn't an idiot.

VoicesCarry said:

i'm not going nuts over it. it's just that i used to really dig madonna, and little by little, year after year, album after album, i've been losing more and more interest. i'm sure she's making lots of money and that's great for her and her family - doesn't make me any more enthused about what i've been seeing and hearing about her tour.

Anxiety said:

Not you, just in general I think people are blowing this out of proportion.

We're on a prince.org message board. "Changing" your name to Esther hardly warrants the catcalls of "idiocy", etc. that people are flinging about with glee. Guess a lot of people here just don't like Madonna - when Prince does it, it's ok.
[This message was edited Fri Jun 18 14:28:38 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

Maybe. I'll bet more people will be seeing Prince for less money per ticket and getting a better show in the bargain. Andthatsayswhat?

Marrk said:

You know, I've read a couple of good things about that Prince tour. I hear he's made a dollar or two from it.

VoicesCarry said:

i got to agree for the first time ever

She said on the 20/20 interview that Esther is merely her Hebrew name - she's not altering her name officially.

People just love to diss celebritys. I don't get it. I never want to be famous. To have all of your personal shit out there for everybody to know and criticise must be really difficult.

Prince can change his name to a question mark if he wants, it will be cool cause he is Prince. Madonna is a no talent jerk. He and mike patton.
She is wrong even when her mouth is shut. she and britney.
[This message was edited Sat Jun 19 5:50:42 2004 by 7salles]

7salles said:

This means war

LightOfArt said:

Nah. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

It's so funny the way the media blows things out of proportion.Madonna did NOT change her name.All of her future CDs and concerts will continue to be billed as "Madonna".She has said that "Esther" is just her Hebrew name,and that she hasn't changed her name officially.But I guess it's more fun to believe everything the media reports...

okay..someone please explain to me WHY!!!

I really liked Madonna for a few years....from Dick Tracey to Evita....then she got all British like Tina Turner....
[This message was edited Mon Jun 21 4:24:04 2004 by FiveFootNine]

LightOfArt said:

VoicesCarry said:

This is still funny to me. Especially now that "Inside Edition" even reported that Madonna's ticket sales are slow. Plus, her tickets are hella expensive. She can sell out one show and be the highest-grossing tour of the summer, because the majority of the tours this summer are $100 or less. If her tickets were around the same price as every other tour ($50 to $100), then I would be giving her props for being the highest-grossing tour. This is like saying Mercedes has the highest sales over Ford, Hyndai, or Mazda. Of course they do, a Benz costs 10 times more than the most expensive model of any of these cars, so of course they are going to have higher grosses. Let's compare her show to other tours that had $100+ ticket prices and she would probably be at the bottom of the list.

estelle1981 said:

Unlikely. Lower prices would only mean a lot more fans could go (I, for one, couldn't afford it this time around). People PAY a lot for a Benz, much as they're willing to PAY a lot for Madonna. Enough said. Any of the pop stars of today couldn't justify those prices to their fans.

VoicesCarry said:

I don't really think Madonna can justify her high ticket prices anymore than the artists who have much lower ticket prices. The only reason I can see that her show costs soo much is because of all the equipment and spectacle involved, but Britney's show is just as elaborate, and her tickets are $50 to $100.

estelle1981 said:

No, Madonna "justifies" the price to her FANS because she's WORTH seeing. People wouldn't pay $300 for Britney, but they will for Madonna. You see what I'm saying?

I love how the thread says she's an idiot and everyone goes for the name change.

The recent interview did it for me. I wonder if money makes your brain run out of your ear when you sleep, maybe at like 2 million.

Anxiety said:

I think u meant past tense: 'lost'

*this has been a public service announcement brought 2 u by the pOp education dept, and the letter P.

U have not been charged 4 this service.

bananacologne said:

nah. i meant present tense. i think things could get much worse...and they probably will...