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Thread started 05/17/04 8:48pm

SassyBritches

janet blaming low "damita jo" sales on michael's legal problems?

just heard jay leno make a joke about this on his show. i haven't heard anything like that and was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it. if it is true it would seem to make more sense to blame virgin for their schizophrenic handling of singles/video selections.
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Reply #1 posted 05/17/04 8:53pm

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oddly enough to me ive always separated Janet from MJ and whoever else from the jackson family...i think shes always been able to stand on her own.

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Reply #2 posted 05/17/04 9:37pm

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Probably has more to do with her "wardrobe malfunction" than anything else. confused

Still, I haven't bought it yet... hmm, wonder why? confuse
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Reply #3 posted 05/17/04 9:38pm

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Or the fact that the first two songs I've heard from it suck.

Maybe that's it... hmmm
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Reply #4 posted 05/17/04 9:45pm

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June7 said:

Or the fact that the first two songs I've heard from it suck.

Maybe that's it... hmmm



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Reply #5 posted 05/18/04 5:23am

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I would need some serious convincing to go buy this, having only heard "Love Me For a Little While" so far. I have all of Janet's other albums and have been to see her twice live, so I've never really needed convincing before. I guess I just feel that her sound hasn't really changed or matured.
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Reply #6 posted 05/18/04 6:48am

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Am I the only one who thinks that maybe they should re-release "Just A Little While" as a single? That song is great and deserves a second chance.
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Reply #7 posted 05/18/04 9:06am

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Yes, this album has definetely gone "KERPLUNK" on the charts redface
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/04 9:40am

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I've heard the cd a couple of times at a friends and my first impression was how childish it is. Janet is almost 40 and she's still acting 21. Her videos suck too. She needs to grow up and make music for people over 25 instead of 12 year olds. Granted, there are a few songs that are catchy and I liked them, but for the most part the cd is not very good IMO.
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Reply #9 posted 05/18/04 10:55am

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adoreme said:

I would need some serious convincing to go buy this, having only heard "Love Me For a Little While" so far. I have all of Janet's other albums and have been to see her twice live, so I've never really needed convincing before. I guess I just feel that her sound hasn't really changed or matured.


I'm totally with you adoreme. I will need some significant convincing.

I love Janet (hince my name) but I have truly lost something for her and I think that has affected my enthusiasm with regard to purchasing this latest album, and quite frankly, I don't know if I will ever buy it. There was a part of me that took the aftermath of the Superbowl thing personally. I felt like she was trying to "dupe" people about the whole situation. Wardrobe Malfunction my foot. It was so obvious it was not a accident, that Stevie Wonder could have seen it was done on purpose. Then, instead of imediately apologizing (if it truly was an accident and realized people were offended), why wait so long to "apologize". She should have owned up to it, taken responsibility, and said the truth, which I think was the simple fact that she made a bad decision, she had a lapse in judgement, and she apologize.

Then when the album was released, in her very first interview to the public, one of the very first things she said was, "I'm tired of talking about it", and continued to say that same thing in every interview since. Can Janet be that foolish in thinking that people aren't going to wonder about that? And how could she be tired of talking about it when she had not discussed it publically before? She totally ran away from taking responsibility for what happened by acting coy and worming out of questions. Again, I wasn't offended by the breast, I was offended by her actions afterwards by lying and by not owning up to the obvious.

A lot of the celebrities think whatever they say, the public not only will believe them, but are suppose to believe them with out question, no matter how transparent it is. Like Michael Jackson saying he has only had 2 surguries on his nose and nothing else eek . Does he think we are fools? It is so obvious that's not true, just like it's obvious it wasn't a "accident" Janet's breast came out during Superbowl, and just like it's obvious this album is weak and not selling well and it has nothing to do with Michaels legal troubles.

I didn't know I had all of that to get off of my chest. Sorry about the rant.
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/04 2:42pm

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VelvetJ said:

adoreme said:

I would need some serious convincing to go buy this, having only heard "Love Me For a Little While" so far. I have all of Janet's other albums and have been to see her twice live, so I've never really needed convincing before. I guess I just feel that her sound hasn't really changed or matured.


I'm totally with you adoreme. I will need some significant convincing.

I love Janet (hince my name) but I have truly lost something for her and I think that has affected my enthusiasm with regard to purchasing this latest album, and quite frankly, I don't know if I will ever buy it. There was a part of me that took the aftermath of the Superbowl thing personally. I felt like she was trying to "dupe" people about the whole situation. Wardrobe Malfunction my foot. It was so obvious it was not a accident, that Stevie Wonder could have seen it was done on purpose. Then, instead of imediately apologizing (if it truly was an accident and realized people were offended), why wait so long to "apologize". She should have owned up to it, taken responsibility, and said the truth, which I think was the simple fact that she made a bad decision, she had a lapse in judgement, and she apologize.

Then when the album was released, in her very first interview to the public, one of the very first things she said was, "I'm tired of talking about it", and continued to say that same thing in every interview since. Can Janet be that foolish in thinking that people aren't going to wonder about that? And how could she be tired of talking about it when she had not discussed it publically before? She totally ran away from taking responsibility for what happened by acting coy and worming out of questions. Again, I wasn't offended by the breast, I was offended by her actions afterwards by lying and by not owning up to the obvious.

A lot of the celebrities think whatever they say, the public not only will believe them, but are suppose to believe them with out question, no matter how transparent it is. Like Michael Jackson saying he has only had 2 surguries on his nose and nothing else eek . Does he think we are fools? It is so obvious that's not true, just like it's obvious it wasn't a "accident" Janet's breast came out during Superbowl, and just like it's obvious this album is weak and not selling well and it has nothing to do with Michaels legal troubles.

I didn't know I had all of that to get off of my chest. Sorry about the rant.


Have you heard the album?
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theVelvetRoper said:

VelvetJ said:



I'm totally with you adoreme. I will need some significant convincing.

I love Janet (hince my name) but I have truly lost something for her and I think that has affected my enthusiasm with regard to purchasing this latest album, and quite frankly, I don't know if I will ever buy it. There was a part of me that took the aftermath of the Superbowl thing personally. I felt like she was trying to "dupe" people about the whole situation. Wardrobe Malfunction my foot. It was so obvious it was not a accident, that Stevie Wonder could have seen it was done on purpose. Then, instead of imediately apologizing (if it truly was an accident and realized people were offended), why wait so long to "apologize". She should have owned up to it, taken responsibility, and said the truth, which I think was the simple fact that she made a bad decision, she had a lapse in judgement, and she apologize.

Then when the album was released, in her very first interview to the public, one of the very first things she said was, "I'm tired of talking about it", and continued to say that same thing in every interview since. Can Janet be that foolish in thinking that people aren't going to wonder about that? And how could she be tired of talking about it when she had not discussed it publically before? She totally ran away from taking responsibility for what happened by acting coy and worming out of questions. Again, I wasn't offended by the breast, I was offended by her actions afterwards by lying and by not owning up to the obvious.

A lot of the celebrities think whatever they say, the public not only will believe them, but are suppose to believe them with out question, no matter how transparent it is. Like Michael Jackson saying he has only had 2 surguries on his nose and nothing else eek . Does he think we are fools? It is so obvious that's not true, just like it's obvious it wasn't a "accident" Janet's breast came out during Superbowl, and just like it's obvious this album is weak and not selling well and it has nothing to do with Michaels legal troubles.

I didn't know I had all of that to get off of my chest. Sorry about the rant.


Have you heard the album?


That's the problem. I don't think anyone has heard it and the singles certaintly aren't playing like those damn Usher and Mario Whinnings songs.

Also, I haven't heard Janet say anything about Michael being to blame for her record sales. Maybe it was the fact that she goes on lame ass talk shows that refuse to talk about the CD...huh, Jay?
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Double Post. Opps now!
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Reply #13 posted 05/18/04 4:11pm

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DavidEye said:

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe they should re-release "Just A Little While" as a single? That song is great and deserves a second chance.


I luv this song. Maybe Virgin should re-release this song with a slammin video.
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/04 4:28pm

SassyBritches

ok, so nobody's actually heard her say that the legal isues are what's effecting sales. i didn't think she would say something like that.
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/04 9:17pm

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theVelvetRoper said:

VelvetJ said:



I'm totally with you adoreme. I will need some significant convincing.

I love Janet (hince my name) but I have truly lost something for her and I think that has affected my enthusiasm with regard to purchasing this latest album, and quite frankly, I don't know if I will ever buy it. There was a part of me that took the aftermath of the Superbowl thing personally. I felt like she was trying to "dupe" people about the whole situation. Wardrobe Malfunction my foot. It was so obvious it was not a accident, that Stevie Wonder could have seen it was done on purpose. Then, instead of imediately apologizing (if it truly was an accident and realized people were offended), why wait so long to "apologize". She should have owned up to it, taken responsibility, and said the truth, which I think was the simple fact that she made a bad decision, she had a lapse in judgement, and she apologize.

Then when the album was released, in her very first interview to the public, one of the very first things she said was, "I'm tired of talking about it", and continued to say that same thing in every interview since. Can Janet be that foolish in thinking that people aren't going to wonder about that? And how could she be tired of talking about it when she had not discussed it publically before? She totally ran away from taking responsibility for what happened by acting coy and worming out of questions. Again, I wasn't offended by the breast, I was offended by her actions afterwards by lying and by not owning up to the obvious.

A lot of the celebrities think whatever they say, the public not only will believe them, but are suppose to believe them with out question, no matter how transparent it is. Like Michael Jackson saying he has only had 2 surguries on his nose and nothing else eek . Does he think we are fools? It is so obvious that's not true, just like it's obvious it wasn't a "accident" Janet's breast came out during Superbowl, and just like it's obvious this album is weak and not selling well and it has nothing to do with Michaels legal troubles.

I didn't know I had all of that to get off of my chest. Sorry about the rant.


Have you heard the album?


You know what, I will be honest with you and tell you I have only heard 4 songs off of the album, but was really underwhelmed. I really don't think this album not selling well is due to people not giving it a chance because they haven't heard it. From what I've heard personally, and from hearing what many others have been saying, this album is definitely not one of her strongest.

I really think I have changed and was just stuck on the significance the Velvet Rope album had on me personally. I have loved Janet since my music teacher brought her debut album to class and played "Young Love" for us, and I will always love Janet. But, this year I have just grown in a different direction I suppose because I just had no room in my heart for what I viewed as BS that she was pushing (not to mention her NEVER addressing her duet with a known homophobe who raps about killing a group of people. Her official authorized website and other websites dedicated to her was loaded with questions regarding this from concerned fans. To this very day, she has never addressed it and I refuse to believe she had no idea fans were concerned about this).

Once again, I still to have love for Janet, despite how my posts may appear. I just have no patience at this particular point in my life for lies and people that do not take responsibility for their actions, and the whole aftermath of the Superbowl just got under my skin.

And, no I did not hear her make the statement regarding album sales and Michael, but I wouldn't be surprised to be quite honest because immediately after the Superbowl situation, that very night, Jermaine was saying people were blowing it out of proportion because of what had been going on with Michael. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if there are those in her camp that feel the same way. At this point I don't think Janet will say the album is not selling well because it's not very strong.
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Reply #16 posted 05/19/04 4:12am

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PrettyMan72 said:

DavidEye said:

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe they should re-release "Just A Little While" as a single? That song is great and deserves a second chance.


I luv this song. Maybe Virgin should re-release this song with a slammin video.


I also think than "Just A Little While" is great although I'm not so keen on the other two singles. I also heard "R&B Junkie" and it's great too
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Reply #17 posted 05/19/04 4:15am

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PrettyMan72 said:

DavidEye said:

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe they should re-release "Just A Little While" as a single? That song is great and deserves a second chance.


I luv this song. Maybe Virgin should re-release this song with a slammin video.



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Reply #18 posted 05/19/04 11:34am

muttley

I have been lost on Janet after "All for You". Anytime Jam & Lewis blatently lift tracks, instead of coming up with original stuff for her then it isnt worth my 18.99.

I did buy all for you and the only thing I could listen to were the segways and the track with CarlY Simon.

I can still put on Rhythm Nation and dance to it though!

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Reply #19 posted 05/19/04 2:18pm

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muttley said:

I have been lost on Janet after "All for You". Anytime Jam & Lewis blatently lift tracks, instead of coming up with original stuff for her then it isnt worth my 18.99.

I did buy all for you and the only thing I could listen to were the segways and the track with CarlY Simon.

I can still put on Rhythm Nation and dance to it though!

Mutts


"Son Of A Gun" was the worst single she ever recorded
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