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Thread started 05/19/04 3:24am

tory305

does anyone hear think that vanessa carlton owes a huge debt to tori amos?

hey there guys. i couldn't help myself. after kate bush vs. tori amos thread, i had to strike back. there are some people to this day who are somewhat bitter that tori amos has had a more success ful carreer than kate bush. or maybe just the career that kate deserved. i'm not necessarily in agreement but one thing is for sure. look at all the artists that apppear to have had overnite success who are not nearly as good or original as tori amos. one of the first that comes to mind is vanessa carlton. would vanessa carlton like a little cheese with that whine? biggrin she is an ok piano player but highly overrated. tori is a far better composer, singer/songwriter, or performer than lil' miss carlton. however, does tori get the coverage on mtv or vh-1 that vanessa got? no. nor did tori's a sorta fairytale get the play that vanessa's a thousand miles received either. anyone have an opinion on this? if so, post away. lol
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Reply #1 posted 05/19/04 4:03am

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Credit where it's truly due, they all owe a huge debt to Mrs Mills.

She was the mutha of them all.
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Reply #2 posted 05/19/04 6:56am

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langebleu said:

Credit where it's truly due, they all owe a huge debt to Mrs Mills.

She was the mutha of them all.
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stefanie? confuse
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Reply #3 posted 05/19/04 8:34am

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Well... although I haven't heard much of Vanessa, I think she's the "safe" answer to Tori, much like Avril Whateverhernameis is a safe version of "skater punk".

I would say that Fiona and Alanis owe a great deal to Tori, for opening the doors so to speak. I have an interview from either Extra or E... I can't remember... where Tori talks about breaking down doors and she aknowledges the women that came before her and the ones that are breaking barriers now. It's not just a piano thing.

I hate hearing Vanessa and Tori in the same sentence though, it's like Prince and Jimi. Just because they play the same instrument doesn't mean a damn thing.
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Reply #4 posted 05/19/04 8:40am

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and let's not forget about jewel. when i first heard 'who will save your soul' all i could think was "oh, its tori with a guitar". even my mother said to me, when i was a teen, "jason, that girl wants to be tori amos." LOL
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Reply #5 posted 05/19/04 8:41am

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i think she's awful. a second or third rate tori amos.....
she can thank who ever'll claim her, imo
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Reply #6 posted 05/19/04 8:46am

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SassyBritches said:

and let's not forget about jewel. when i first heard 'who will save your soul' all i could think was "oh, its tori with a guitar". even my mother said to me, when i was a teen, "jason, that girl wants to be tori amos." LOL



I can't STAND Jewel.
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Reply #7 posted 05/19/04 8:50am

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VinaBlue said:

SassyBritches said:

and let's not forget about jewel. when i first heard 'who will save your soul' all i could think was "oh, its tori with a guitar". even my mother said to me, when i was a teen, "jason, that girl wants to be tori amos." LOL



I can't STAND Jewel.

and tori has much better teeth! giggle
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Reply #8 posted 05/19/04 10:19am

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I saw Vannessa Carlton live. I didn't choose to see her, but she opened for The Goo Goo Dolls a couple of years ago when "A Thousand Miles" was popular. She was absolutely terrible! Her songs were really, really bad, her voice wasn't all that hot, and she isn't a terribly great pianist.
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Reply #9 posted 05/19/04 7:58pm

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langebleu said:

Credit where it's truly due, they all owe a huge debt to Mrs Mills.

She was the mutha of them all.
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but stephanie mills is not even in the same genre as tori amos, kate bush, or vanessa carlton. stephanie mills has more more in common with diana ross or barbra streisand, doesn't she? i couldn't put her name in the same sentence with tori amos really. sorry. confused
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Reply #10 posted 05/19/04 8:09pm

VoicesCarry

Vanessa Carlton sounds nothing like Tori Amos to me. Instantly forgettable.
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Reply #11 posted 05/20/04 12:18am

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tory305 said:

langebleu said:

Credit where it's truly due, they all owe a huge debt to Mrs Mills.

She was the mutha of them all.
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but stephanie mills is not even in the same genre as tori amos, kate bush, or vanessa carlton. stephanie mills has more more in common with diana ross or barbra streisand, doesn't she? i couldn't put her name in the same sentence with tori amos really. sorry. confused

Mrs Mills - not Stephanie Mills.

It's patently obvious to any musicologist that the mantle was passed to Kate by Hilda Woodward



who inherited it from the great Mrs Mills:


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