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whodknee said: DavidEye said: While it may be true that Kool and The Gang's music changed after 1978,I still like alot of their stuff from this period...
Ladies' Night (1979) Too Hot (1979) Jones Vs Jones (1980) Take My Heart (You Can Have It If You Want It) (1981) Get Down On It (1981) Steppin Out (1981) No Show (1981) Joanna (1983) Tonight (1983) Misled (1984) Stone Love (1986) Many R&B/funk bands from the 70s changed their music when the 80s arrived,to fit in with the whole new synthesized sound.Yeah,that was disappointing,but these bands still continued to make great music. Don't get me wrong. I like some of these songs. I don't begrudge them their success with them either, but it's a far cry from Summer Madness. I know there was some turnover in the band so maybe that's the kind of music they really wanted to make. I was just calling them out based on the definition typically used for selling out. I hear ya,and many people agree with you,even some of those folks who embraced the band's 80s work.There is no denying that their 70s stuff (before JT Taylor) was funkier. | |
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CherrieMoonKisses said: Madonna....hello?
Just curious...why do you consider Madonna a sellout?  | |
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LENNY KRAVITZ. SELL-OUT SUPREME. | |
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much as i hate to think of anyone as a sell out i have to co-sign on the rod stewart comment. form 'hot legs' and 'stay with me' to 'have i told you latley'.... he took the express train to shitsell-out! its shame really.
also on the d&p-era prince. lovesexy and evn graffiti bridge had moments of brilliance, imo, but d&p, in its entirety is/was a grasping attempt to get back to the top 40. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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I give Prince the benefit of the doubt. I mean, yes, D&P and Rave both sounded like attempts to be hip again, but sometimes artists like to make music just for the fun of it. Not every album has to be a defining moment of genius. I think Prince just wants to kick back and make a fun little pop album every once in a while, and there's nothing wrong with that. Because you'll still get just as many albums from him where he is challenging himself and stretching the boundaries of his own artistry.
The real sell outs are the ones who continually, album after album, don't challenge themselves and just make music for money and fame (after an initial album or several albums that actually showed their strengths). For this, I would have to put people like Rod Stewart here, and Earth Wind and Fire (at least in the past few years), and Lionel Richie. I'm not going to put someone on this list just because they experimented with a different style, because a true musician appreciates many different styles of music. Oh, and Earth Wind and Fire is still one of the best bands ever, anyway! | |
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Prince was only a sellout with that rapper image in the early 90's, but he got rid of that so it's ok in my eyes.
How about Beyonce? She once said in an interview that she didn't believe in showing a lot of skin, and now she uses it all the time to enhance her image. Gotta add Ja Rule to that list too. How many goddamn love songs can you make with Ashanti? I HATE Ja Rule.  The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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JEWEL!!!
Not that I liked her music before though. She doesn't even seem like the same person now. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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HardcoreJollies said:
Kenny G -- Believe it or not, he was once with a funky-ass group known as the Jeff Lorber Fusion
Yeah, He was cool back when he was plain ol' Kenny Gorelick with the Fusion... Then he dropped most of his last name, went solo and apparently started on his Quest To Make People Truly Hate The Soprano Saxophone... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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Universaluv said: oh man, you hurt me by putting EWF in there, but mainly cause it's true
I like to think that Stevie just burnt out rather than sold out. As for those who say Prince, he has definitely had his "sell out" moments. D&P, Batman, Rave. hell, Purple Rain was extremely calculated to be full of hits.. Still I cut him some slack since he still has a habit of following his muse and releasing stuff that's very non-commercial (NEWS, Rainbow Children). I'd agree with this. But I also think about artists who record listener-friendly material to make the money to gain their artistic freedom. As I understand it, jazz cats like Wes Montgomery recorded pop standards to sell and get the flexibility to play what they wanted to. Prince did Purple Rain, which also happened to be an unforgettable, classic record, and bought himself Paisley Park and carte blanche for the better part of a decade. Underground hip-hop artists emerged on cameos to make cash Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Universaluv said: oh man, you hurt me by putting EWF in there, but mainly cause it's true
I like to think that Stevie just burnt out rather than sold out. As for those who say Prince, he has definitely had his "sell out" moments. D&P, Batman, Rave. hell, Purple Rain was extremely calculated to be full of hits.. Still I cut him some slack since he still has a habit of following his muse and releasing stuff that's very non-commercial (NEWS, Rainbow Children). I'd agree with this. But I also think about artists who record listener-friendly material to make the money to gain their artistic freedom. As I understand it, jazz cats like Wes Montgomery recorded pop standards to sell and get the flexibility to play what they wanted to. Prince did Purple Rain, which also happened to be an unforgettable, classic record, and bought himself Paisley Park and carte blanche for the better part of a decade. Underground hip-hop artists emerged on cameos to make cash True!! " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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