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WHO ARE THE BIGGEST 'SELL-OUTS' OF ALL TIME? One of the worst things about being a music fan is when you are with your group or artist from the beginning or early on and then they completely sell out for mainstream success or other reasons.
Here is my list of the worst sell outs and with explanations ... Lionel Ritchie -- Awesome funkateer/soul singer with Commodores, then turned, as someone else on these boards has said, into the black Barry Manilow (and you know that cannot be good!) George Benson -- Lendary jazz guitar player threw it all away to become a lame pop balladeer Kenny G -- Believe it or not, he was once with a funky-ass group known as the Jeff Lorber Fusion Kool & the Gang -- One of the all-time greatest funk bands hired a new vocalist in J.T. Taylor and traded in the funk for becoming an AM-radio wedding band Larry Graham -- Forged groundbreaking, legendary funk with Sly & the Family Stone and then abandoned it first in favor of Jehovah Witness rhetoric and then lounge singer balladry Stevie Wonder -- Motown legend developed into one of the great singer/songwriter/musicians of all time, but then turned out dreck like Ebony and Ivory, I Just Called to Say I Love You and Part-Time Lover Earth, Wind & Fire -- Wildly inventive jazz-funk-soul ensemble kicked ass for most of the 1970s, then began the beginning of the end with Boogie Wonderland, After the Love Has Gone and more drivel Aerosmith -- Raw, electric, bluesy hard-rock quintet from the 1970s that made an unbelievable comeback in the 1980s ... but at what price? Their new blues album is OK and they have turned out some good songs, but most of their recent hits have been wimpy bullshit This is why you really have to appreciate the artists that stay true to their roots and art. People like Prince, George Clinton, Bootsy, AC/DC, Rolling Stones, ZZ Top, Ohio Players, Allman Brothers, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy or ones that were cool when they disbanded or died like Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine. These people do not pretend to be what they are not and do not compromise. Who would you add to this list and why??? Peace, Scott If you've got funk, you've got style. | |
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Fred Durst "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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looks like u got every1.
Hmmm. Cameo is one i guess. They ditched their raw big band funk horns escapade to turn in2 a drum machine. Although it still was somewhat funky. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Not one of my favourite artists but Paul Mac Cartney has released too much silly shits, Elton John has sucked for... well since the beginning
the band UB40, Texas ___ Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana it's easiest when you died young  [This message was edited Sat May 15 4:14:25 2004 by jn2] | |
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I don't feel your definition of selling out. A change in musical direction to me...isn't "selling out". | |
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The Red Hot Chili Peppers. 
hee-hee, I just noticed that you (Hardcorejollies) mentioned them in your original post. I just haven't liked them for at least the past ten years or so. Everything sounds exactly the same to me IMO. [This message was edited Sat May 15 6:39:46 2004 by minneapolisgenius] "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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i was with u until you showed your bias and claim that prince didnt sell out...
well what the  do you call Diamonds & Pearls? "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World? and all the other sap slow songs prince has released to lead off his albums recently....Space for sale... | |
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Elton John ~ Disney Bitch
Sting ~ Movie scores & commercials whore MC Hammer ~ Sat AM Cartoon? Madonna I disagree about the ROLLING STONES...they sold START ME UP to promote Windows and are always touring arenas behind corporate sponsorship. Just recently, they had an exclusive DVD deal with Best Buy. Seems like bottom line for them is...$$$, not music anymore. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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I aint digging your definition of 'sellout'. Some of the artists you mention, Stevie Wonder for example, just burnt out. I don't mean that as derogatory comment. Just that all artists have their peak. Same thing happened to Sly. It happens to all artists. would you consider Prince a sellout? "London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"
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ozzy osbourne that song he did with kelly  not to mention the tv show  | |
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METALLICA.
They cut their hair, put on make-up, and turned Alternative on their fans a few years ago with their "Load" cd which was a load of crap. They definitely did this to fit in with what was happening at the time. They were always strongly against making videos for singles from their albums in the 80's. Money talked and then came a video for their song "One". Money talked for the years following their "And Justice For All" album and they've had a sell-out pop sound ever since. Metallica is a joke. The biggest sell-outs of all time. Period. | |
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HardcoreJollies said: Lionel Ritchie -- Awesome funkateer/soul singer with Commodores, then turned, as someone else on these boards has said, into the black Barry Manilow (and you know that cannot be good!) 'Twas moi. Stevie Wonder -- Motown legend developed into one of the great singer/songwriter/musicians of all time, but then turned out dreck like Ebony and Ivory, I Just Called to Say I Love You and Part-Time Lover
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I truly love the Red Hot Chili Peppers but they used to be funky and sold out for a more pop oriented sound.
That's why they are losing fans. Lionel Richie gets my vote for No. 1 Crossed over so far he can't get black!~ 
Kool and the Gang definitely take second place. Commordores go to No. 3 They got extremely cheesy towards the end. | |
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The biggest sell-out ever by far is Jefferson Airplane.
When they went and changed to Starship, talk about a joke. | |
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crazyhorse said: When they went and changed to Starship, talk about a joke. But they built this city on rock and roll. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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HardcoreJollies said: [color=darkblue:5a1d37e50d]OneThis is why you really have to appreciate the artists that stay true to their roots and art. People like Prince, George Clinton, Bootsy, AC/DC, Rolling Stones, ZZ Top, Ohio Players, Allman Brothers, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy or ones that were cool when they disbanded or died like Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine. These people do not pretend to be what they are not and do not compromise.
Who would you add to this list and why??? Peace, Scott [/color] Chili Peppers sold out BIG TIME with Blood Sugar...and their ballad Under The Bridge is the epitome of that regardless of what Anthony says about origins of the song Oh my, oh my. | |
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you forgot about the one the only
PRINCE he's as much a sell out as all of them! daddy pop... talk about joke | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: Fred Durst
As if he was anyting to begin with..he was born sold out Oh my, oh my. | |
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Rhondab said: I don't feel your definition of selling out. A change in musical direction to me...isn't "selling out".
Theres a difference in changing your musical direction due to inspiration and changing it to fit a specific format to get wider acceptance, more money, more..... Oh my, oh my. | |
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Luther Vandross. He wanted a No.1 pop album so bad he screwed up his alchemy. Oh my, oh my. | |
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HardcoreJollies said: [color=darkblue:5a1d37e50d]One of the worst things about being a music fan is when you are with your group or artist from the beginning or early on and then they completely sell out for mainstream success or other reasons.
Here is my list of the worst sell outs and with explanations ... Lionel Ritchie -- Awesome funkateer/soul singer with Commodores, then turned, as someone else on these boards has said, into the black Barry Manilow (and you know that cannot be good!) George Benson -- Lendary jazz guitar player threw it all away to become a lame pop balladeer Kenny G -- Believe it or not, he was once with a funky-ass group known as the Jeff Lorber Fusion Kool & the Gang -- One of the all-time greatest funk bands hired a new vocalist in J.T. Taylor and traded in the funk for becoming an AM-radio wedding band Larry Graham -- Forged groundbreaking, legendary funk with Sly & the Family Stone and then abandoned it first in favor of Jehovah Witness rhetoric and then lounge singer balladry Stevie Wonder -- Motown legend developed into one of the great singer/songwriter/musicians of all time, but then turned out dreck like Ebony and Ivory, I Just Called to Say I Love You and Part-Time Lover Earth, Wind & Fire -- Wildly inventive jazz-funk-soul ensemble kicked ass for most of the 1970s, then began the beginning of the end with Boogie Wonderland, After the Love Has Gone and more drivel Aerosmith -- Raw, electric, bluesy hard-rock quintet from the 1970s that made an unbelievable comeback in the 1980s ... but at what price? Their new blues album is OK and they have turned out some good songs, but most of their recent hits have been wimpy bullshit This is why you really have to appreciate the artists that stay true to their roots and art. People like Prince, George Clinton, Bootsy, AC/DC, Rolling Stones, ZZ Top, Ohio Players, Allman Brothers, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy or ones that were cool when they disbanded or died like Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine. These people do not pretend to be what they are not and do not compromise. Who would you add to this list and why??? Peace, Scott [/color] shit..ZZ Top sold out right after their video hit album Eliminator..they tried ot do the same formula with Afterburner etc...electric drums etc... Oh my, oh my. | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: you forgot about the one the only
PRINCE he's as much a sell out as all of them! daddy pop... talk about joke He's one of th ebiggest but thank god he regained his intergrity in th e end..he wanted that ppop crowd waay back before Purple rain and then later bitched about it. His 1999 is one of the biggest sell out albums ever for many reasons. Oh my, oh my. | |
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not sure he is a musician, he sure is a sellout: moby! [This message was edited Sun May 16 4:03:22 2004 by abierman] | |
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Sting. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Sting.
Explain? lol i didn't feel sacred love, and the only thing good on brand new day was desert rose i still the best he did was ten summoners tale and nothing like the son i don't think thats being a sell-out | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Sting.
Co-Sign.he's a pompous prick who worked with Puff Dicky.Nuff' said.And blondie should be in the hall of fame over the policwe.I hope he gets stuck in a yoga position | |
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SENSHY said: EvilWhiteMale said: Fred Durst
As if he was anyting to begin with..he was born sold out Nah, he started out good, but then went Hollywood. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: SENSHY said: As if he was anyting to begin with..he was born sold out Nah, he started out good, but then went Hollywood. By covering George Michael to get a hit/popularity in their inital beginnings? Oh my, oh my. | |
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What about that dude who used to spin for House of Pain?
WTF is his name? | |
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Everlast, yeah he went from hip hop to country rock...
Hey, whatever pays the bills... [This message was edited Sat May 15 19:05:20 2004 by Revolution] Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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