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Thread started 05/12/04 11:59pm

paisleypark4

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LaToya voted off on American Idol!!!??

If it wasnt for Fantasia being on there still i would NOT be watching this got damn show anymore.

If the worst person of the night can beat on of the best because she was CRYING cuz she knew she was leaving? I definitley should stop watching.

If Fantasia does not win i am giving up on the fucking show for good.

Even Paula Abdul was crying..people were screaming and booing, Simon said Fantasia and LaToya shouldnt be on there and that it is a terrible American mistake.

Got dammit!
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Reply #1 posted 05/13/04 1:11am

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Well. I'm not sure what I'm talking about(we don't see that show in Spain).

But isn't LaToya the worst choice of a name if you intend to pursue a career in singing?

Isn't it a bit like naming your new boat Titanic? You can smell the tragedy confused
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Reply #2 posted 05/13/04 5:03am

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latoyas gone !!mad oh no it will end up like pop idol in the uk where they dont vote for the most talented just who they feel sorry for or the the youngest wall
i agree fantasia should win
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Reply #3 posted 05/13/04 5:50am

endorphin74

last nite sealed it for me...I'm done with this show


...thank god! biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 05/13/04 5:56am

BRO915

Good Morning Everybody,

Paisleypark4, I feel you on this X3.....First of all let me state that I never really watched AI since its' inception.....I only watched the last few episodes last year because everybody was talking about the Ruben vs Clay situation.....

Of course....I like when they show highlights of Simon going off on singers after their performances.....Say what you want about Simon....but the man tells it like it is.

Anyway....fast forward to the last few weeks of AI....I'm very meticulous when it comes to music...and I really trust my discernment as it relates to music.....And Latoya is clearly the best vocalist out of the four finalists.....Her performances actually started me watching AI this year.....Paisley I echo your sentiments Jasmine got some sympathy votes because she cried the night before last.....but tears or no tears...she should have went down last night.....No amount of crying and boo-hooing can compensate for a voice that CLEARLYhave limitations...this is how I break down the final four.....


DIANA- I know she is from Georgia....but forget that.....this is one hometown girl I can't get with.....One thing I will give her is that she knows her limitations and her song selections have been pretty good... And she has improved....But she ain't a natural like Latoya...


JASMINE- Her last two performances wasn't worth two dead flies....bad song selections....She doesn't have the range nor the power to cover the Weather Girls.....You got to have some serious pipes to cover "It's Raining Men" and Jasmine doesn't have even a fraction of the range necessary to pull it off.....

FANTASIA-Fantasia is good....but I don't like her tone....Her vocal tone is kinda twangy but she emotes power and she knows how to work her performances...She has a unique voice {not necessarily pretty.....like Latoya's} and that really makes her stand out. Her performance of "Summertime" was masterful...She ripped that song to pieces. She really bought it. And that brings us to.....

LATOYA.....This sista is a natural.....I mean come on...Anybody with two ears can hear that...Listen to the power, range and tone of her voice....Plus she's beautiful as all of outdoors as old folks used to say....LOL.....I mean looking at her perform is like watching a 20-year veterean.....Great voice, has charisma, knows how to work the stage and the camera.....PLEASE.....that sista had it going on like POPCORN.....the audience knew..(hence their booing).....Simon, Paula and Randy knew it.....the other three ladies knew it...and the general American public with a good set of EARS knows it too. She should have won the whole thing....But I do believe that sistagirl will get a recording contract.....She'll be ok.


PREDICTION.....Jasmine will go next week...look for Simon to snap on her hard next week...LOL.....Then it will be Fantasia and Diana going toe-to-toe and Diana will end up winning the whole thing.....
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Reply #5 posted 05/13/04 5:58am

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Oh....how about Clay returning to butcher the Earth Wind And Fire classic "Fantasy".

Somebody needs to give that clown a reality check....As Martin Lawrence would say.....

MANNNNN...where's the justice?????
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Reply #6 posted 05/13/04 6:20am

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after they kicked her off, I felt bad for not voting. boxed
I assumed she'd be alright b/c she was a natural, and it didn't happen. brick
doh!
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Reply #7 posted 05/13/04 6:29am

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I don't know why so many people are so surprised by this. Lets face it, Fantasia and LaToya were battling for the black vote and Fantasia won. The black public can no longer sustain both women now that it's down to 4 people (2 of which are black, 1 white and 1 Filipina/Hawaiian. LaToya had the best voice, but the least amount of personality in comparison to Fantasia. IMHO - the next couple of votes will be decided based on race. The blacks will vote for Fantasia, the whites for Diana and the Asians will vote for Jasmine. I'm not saying this is 100%, but for the most part, this is how the voting will go, so get on the phone next week people and vote for your favourite!
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Reply #8 posted 05/13/04 7:01am

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kisscamille said:

I don't know why so many people are so surprised by this. Lets face it, Fantasia and LaToya were battling for the black vote and Fantasia won. The black public can no longer sustain both women now that it's down to 4 people (2 of which are black, 1 white and 1 Filipina/Hawaiian. LaToya had the best voice, but the least amount of personality in comparison to Fantasia. IMHO - the next couple of votes will be decided based on race. The blacks will vote for Fantasia, the whites for Diana and the Asians will vote for Jasmine. I'm not saying this is 100%, but for the most part, this is how the voting will go, so get on the phone next week people and vote for your favourite!



i sorta agree with this....

isnt diana part latin?

and dont forget that latoya sorta implied last week she really didnt care if she won or not....thats not a vote getter...hehehehe
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Reply #9 posted 05/13/04 7:34am

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sosgemini said:

kisscamille said:

I don't know why so many people are so surprised by this. Lets face it, Fantasia and LaToya were battling for the black vote and Fantasia won. The black public can no longer sustain both women now that it's down to 4 people (2 of which are black, 1 white and 1 Filipina/Hawaiian. LaToya had the best voice, but the least amount of personality in comparison to Fantasia. IMHO - the next couple of votes will be decided based on race. The blacks will vote for Fantasia, the whites for Diana and the Asians will vote for Jasmine. I'm not saying this is 100%, but for the most part, this is how the voting will go, so get on the phone next week people and vote for your favourite!



i sorta agree with this....

isnt diana part latin?

and dont forget that latoya sorta implied last week she really didnt care if she won or not....thats not a vote getter...hehehehe


I don't know what nationality Diana is, but her last name sounds Italian to me, but I could be totally wrong. You're right about LaToya's attitude, but she was the best singer IMO!
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Reply #10 posted 05/13/04 7:37am

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BRO915 said:

Good Morning Everybody,

Paisleypark4, I feel you on this X3.....First of all let me state that I never really watched AI since it's inception.....I only watched the last few episodes last year because everybody was talking about the Ruben vs Clay situation.....

Of course....I like when they show highlights of Simon going off on singers after their performances.....Say what you want about Simon....but the man tells it like it is.

Anyway....fast forward to the last few weeks of AI....I'm very meticulous when it comes to music...and I really trust my discernment as it relates to music.....And Latoya is clearly the best vocalist out of the four finalists.....Her performances actually started me watching AI this year.....Paisley I echo your sentiments Jasmine got some sympathy votes because she cried the night before last.....but tears or no tears...she should have went down last night.....No amount of crying and boo-hooing can compensate for a voice that CLEARLYhave limitations...this is how I break down the final four.....


DIANA- I know she is from Georgia....but forget that.....this is one hometown girl I can't get with.....One thing I will give her is that she knows her limitations and her song selections have been pretty good... And she has improved....But she ain't a natural like Latoya...


JASMINE- Her last two performances wasn't worth two dead flies....bad song selections....She doesn't have the range nor the power to cover the Weather Girls.....You got to have some serious pipes to cover "It's Raining Men" and Jasmine doesn't have even a fraction of the range necessary to pull it off.....

FANTASIA-Fantasia is good....but I don't like her tone....Her vocal tone is kinda twangy but she emotes power and she knows how to work her performances...She has a unique voice {not necessarily pretty.....like Latoya's} and that really makes her stand out. Her performance of "Summertime" was masterful...She ripped that song to pieces. She really bought it. And that brings us to.....

LATOYA.....This sista is a natural.....I mean come on...Anybody with two ears can hear that...Listen to the power, range and tone of her voice....Plus she's beautiful as all of outdoors as old folks used to say....LOL.....I mean looking at her perform is like watching a 20-year veterean.....Great voice, has charisma, knows how to work the stage and the camera.....PLEASE.....that sista had it going on like POPCORN.....the audience knew..(hence their booing).....Simon, Paula and Randy knew it.....the other three ladies knew it...and the general American public with a good set of EARS knows it too. She should have won the whole thing....But I do believe that sistagirl will get a recording contract.....She'll be ok.


PREDICTION.....Jasmine will go next week...look for Simon to snap on her hard next week...LOL.....Then it will be Fantasia and Diana going toe-to-toe and Diana will end up winning the whole thing.....
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Yes! clapping touched

Me and you think the EXACT SAME WAY!

I want Fantasia 2 win because she has mad personality and is more fun even 2 look at.

And yes..the per4mance of "Summertime" won me over for good. She has a voice like Macy Gray..but she is different because she is young.

But as i already know..they gonna make Diana win..and I will give up on the show 4 good.


I want 2 actually be happy 2 buy an American Idol's album. And Fantasia would be the only one.

Diana has a nice voice...but that's it. No personality. Boring... and only can handle certain songs...
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Reply #11 posted 05/13/04 7:53am

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I don't thinks that this show is going to last very long with all of the controversy that is happening now. It is totally messed up when one of the best singers is voted off before the worst one is now that is F@#*ed up. After this season I am not going to watch it next year they are going to lose their ratings and be forced to go off air. The American people are not going to put up with this BullS@*t. pissed fight
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Reply #12 posted 05/13/04 8:14am

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endorphin74 said:

last nite sealed it for me...I'm done with this show


...thank god! biggrin

I'm done with it too. I was yelling at the TV and my roommate after the show. I was so pissed but LaToya will be big. I have no doubt, but the show has become nothing more than a joke to me.
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Reply #13 posted 05/13/04 8:16am

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bwnladybug said:

I don't thinks that this show is going to last very long with all of the controversy that is happening now. It is totally messed up when one of the best singers is voted off before the worst one is now that is F@#*ed up. After this season I am not going to watch it next year they are going to lose their ratings and be forced to go off air. The American people are not going to put up with this BullS@*t. pissed fight


They should just let Simon, paula and Randy vote them off....
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Reply #14 posted 05/13/04 8:23am

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paisleypark4 said:

bwnladybug said:

I don't thinks that this show is going to last very long with all of the controversy that is happening now. It is totally messed up when one of the best singers is voted off before the worst one is now that is F@#*ed up. After this season I am not going to watch it next year they are going to lose their ratings and be forced to go off air. The American people are not going to put up with this BullS@*t. pissed fight


They should just let Simon, paula and Randy vote them off....


Why do you think that? Isn't the American public good enough to vote them off? It is the public doing the voting. You did remember that...right?

Don't misunderstand me, I was a huge fan of LaToya, I'm just curious as to why you think the
judges should do the voting and not the american public.
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Reply #15 posted 05/13/04 8:25am

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kisscamille said:

paisleypark4 said:



They should just let Simon, paula and Randy vote them off....


Why do you think that? Isn't the American public good enough to vote them off? It is the public doing the voting. You did remember that...right?

Don't misunderstand me, I was a huge fan of LaToya, I'm just curious as to why you think the
judges should do the voting and not the american public.



because for the second damn time a good artist has been voted off because of circumstances.
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Reply #16 posted 05/13/04 8:29am

kisscamille

paisleypark4 said:

kisscamille said:



Why do you think that? Isn't the American public good enough to vote them off? It is the public doing the voting. You did remember that...right?

Don't misunderstand me, I was a huge fan of LaToya, I'm just curious as to why you think the
judges should do the voting and not the american public.



because for the second damn time a good artist has been voted off because of circumstances.


Well the "circumstances" you speak of were in the control of the american people and half the blacks voted for Fantasia and the other half for LaToya, which means they got the lowest votes. It's too bad, but that's the way it goes!
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Reply #17 posted 05/13/04 8:31am

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kisscamille said:

paisleypark4 said:




because for the second damn time a good artist has been voted off because of circumstances.


Well the "circumstances" you speak of were in the control of the american people and half the blacks voted for Fantasia and the other half for LaToya, which means they got the lowest votes. It's too bad, but that's the way it goes!



eye know. I voted for Fantasia 15 times.


2bad sometimes people only do loo at who's color is closest 2 theirs and vote for them. Well...for one...even if they are black..Fantasia and LaToya were the best.

Even Simon was saying from the get go that it was going to be a battle between them. OH well.
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Reply #18 posted 05/13/04 8:44am

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sosgemini said:




i sorta agree with this....

isnt diana part latin?

and dont forget that latoya sorta implied last week she really didnt care if she won or not....thats not a vote getter...hehehehe


I don't know what nationality Diana is, but her last name sounds Italian to me, but I could be totally wrong. You're right about LaToya's attitude, but she was the best singer IMO!



Diana is Italian.
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Reply #19 posted 05/13/04 8:51am

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I've only caught a few of these shows but I really felt that there were some talented people except that red-haired guy. The episode I tuned into the red-haired guy sang a song out of tune from beginning to end. The public let him stay for another 3 episodes and he really sucked. At that point I had to quit watching because while there was talent the public doesn't have a clue.
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Reply #20 posted 05/13/04 8:51am

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kisscamille said:

paisleypark4 said:



They should just let Simon, paula and Randy vote them off....


Why do you think that? Isn't the American public good enough to vote them off? It is the public doing the voting. You did remember that...right?

Don't misunderstand me, I was a huge fan of LaToya, I'm just curious as to why you think the
judges should do the voting and not the american public.



You know what it really wouldn't make a difference who did the voting, I think that it is rigged anyways. They don't let us see the number of votes anyhow.
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Reply #21 posted 05/13/04 8:57am

BRO915

paisleypark4 said:

BRO915 said:

Good Morning Everybody,

Paisleypark4, I feel you on this X3.....First of all let me state that I never really watched AI since it's inception.....I only watched the last few episodes last year because everybody was talking about the Ruben vs Clay situation.....

Of course....I like when they show highlights of Simon going off on singers after their performances.....Say what you want about Simon....but the man tells it like it is.

Anyway....fast forward to the last few weeks of AI....I'm very meticulous when it comes to music...and I really trust my discernment as it relates to music.....And Latoya is clearly the best vocalist out of the four finalists.....Her performances actually started me watching AI this year.....Paisley I echo your sentiments Jasmine got some sympathy votes because she cried the night before last.....but tears or no tears...she should have went down last night.....No amount of crying and boo-hooing can compensate for a voice that CLEARLYhave limitations...this is how I break down the final four.....


DIANA- I know she is from Georgia....but forget that.....this is one hometown girl I can't get with.....One thing I will give her is that she knows her limitations and her song selections have been pretty good... And she has improved....But she ain't a natural like Latoya...


JASMINE- Her last two performances wasn't worth two dead flies....bad song selections....She doesn't have the range nor the power to cover the Weather Girls.....You got to have some serious pipes to cover "It's Raining Men" and Jasmine doesn't have even a fraction of the range necessary to pull it off.....

FANTASIA-Fantasia is good....but I don't like her tone....Her vocal tone is kinda twangy but she emotes power and she knows how to work her performances...She has a unique voice {not necessarily pretty.....like Latoya's} and that really makes her stand out. Her performance of "Summertime" was masterful...She ripped that song to pieces. She really bought it. And that brings us to.....

LATOYA.....This sista is a natural.....I mean come on...Anybody with two ears can hear that...Listen to the power, range and tone of her voice....Plus she's beautiful as all of outdoors as old folks used to say....LOL.....I mean looking at her perform is like watching a 20-year veterean.....Great voice, has charisma, knows how to work the stage and the camera.....PLEASE.....that sista had it going on like POPCORN.....the audience knew..(hence their booing).....Simon, Paula and Randy knew it.....the other three ladies knew it...and the general American public with a good set of EARS knows it too. She should have won the whole thing....But I do believe that sistagirl will get a recording contract.....She'll be ok.


PREDICTION.....Jasmine will go next week...look for Simon to snap on her hard next week...LOL.....Then it will be Fantasia and Diana going toe-to-toe and Diana will end up winning the whole thing.....
[This message was edited Thu May 13 6:01:19 2004 by BRO915]



Yes! clapping touched

Me and you think the EXACT SAME WAY!

I want Fantasia 2 win because she has mad personality and is more fun even 2 look at.

And yes..the per4mance of "Summertime" won me over for good. She has a voice like Macy Gray..but she is different because she is young.

But as i already know..they gonna make Diana win..and I will give up on the show 4 good.


I want 2 actually be happy 2 buy an American Idol's album. And Fantasia would be the only one.

Diana has a nice voice...but that's it. No personality. Boring... and only can handle certain songs...



But look folks it really comes down to this.....

How can you take a show serious when one of it's judges had to use studio equipment to enhance HER voice on her debut LP. Let's be REAL in a Simon kind of way!!!!! Ms. Abdul couldn't sing her way out of a zoo. Let alone try to sing on a stage....She's "a knock out" beauty of a woman.....But "straight up" the woman is a hideous vocalist.....{you guys should hear my British accent.....LOL).

The fact that she is a judge automatically makes the show suspect and uncredible as far as I'm concerned.....

After next week after Simon goes off..LOL..I'll probably stop watching it.....
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Reply #22 posted 05/13/04 9:36am

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kisscamille said:

paisleypark4 said:




because for the second damn time a good artist has been voted off because of circumstances.


Well the "circumstances" you speak of were in the control of the american people and half the blacks voted for Fantasia and the other half for LaToya, which means they got the lowest votes. It's too bad, but that's the way it goes!



hmmmmm...are you assuming black people only voted for black people and everyone else voted for the other women. I don't think so.

I think its a case of people assuming Latoya and Fantasia will be the final two so A LOT of people didn't vote. Its a "no brainer" so why vote...yanno.

America is no longer interested in "talent". Patti Labelle, Aretha, Gladys, Barry White, etc would not make it today if they were new artists. They would not be deemed attractive enough to be in a video..... confused

big up to Patti on 106 & park looking cute in her jeans though.....
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Reply #23 posted 05/13/04 9:54am

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kisscamille said:

sosgemini said:




i sorta agree with this....

isnt diana part latin?

and dont forget that latoya sorta implied last week she really didnt care if she won or not....thats not a vote getter...hehehehe


I don't know what nationality Diana is, but her last name sounds Italian to me, but I could be totally wrong. You're right about LaToya's attitude, but she was the best singer IMO!



For the first 9 weeks or so, La Toya was constantly called boring because she lacked personality, but had a good voice. Then within the last two weeks all of a sudden she had an attitude? I don't get that at all. All she was saying, or how I interpreted is that they were all winners because they came as far as they have, and that whatever happens here on out wouldn't matter because they are all going to have some level of success. She wasn't saying that she didn't want to win. Of course she wanted to win, but it wasn't the means to an end since they had made it to the top 4. I think people really wanted to find something on her, plain and simple. Yes she is confident. If you live in the Bay Area, after AI last night, the 10 o'clock news had a segment on her upbringing and singing experiences. She didn't just practice with karaoke. Girlfriend will do just fine after AI. Just a stepping stone, and prolly to her advantage to leave a bit earlier than would like. I knew something was wrong Tuesday night when I was able to get through on the first try after 10pm. Usually it would take 3 or 4 tries. So I kept voting, but only like 10 times, and I gave about 4 to Fantasia. The whole talk of personality is slightly baffling to me, wouldn't the only way one would not have a personality is if they were dead? So she was low-key, or composed, she's just different and prolly more mature than what the average AI viewer or music listener can understand and appreciate. I wouldn't be surprised if Fantasia is next just because hey it's America! Diana is quite good and she deserves to be there.

Also, I think the judges gushing and raving over the divas and slamming some of the other contestants only riled up certain voters to have those massive voting parties. While Fantansia and LaToya might get one or two or no votes because fans think they are automatically safe. In the end it's a tv show and live definitely goes on. It's just a diversion that we get unnecessarily wound up over.
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Reply #24 posted 05/13/04 10:02am

BRO915

kisscamille said:

paisleypark4 said:




because for the second damn time a good artist has been voted off because of circumstances.


Well the "circumstances" you speak of were in the control of the american people and half the blacks voted for Fantasia and the other half for LaToya, which means they got the lowest votes. It's too bad, but that's the way it goes!



It would surely be suspect if the judges were the ones deciding the winners...because "circumstances" and "politics" could certainly play a factor if that was the case...Not saying that is NOT the case now.....But letting the public vote on who they want to see advance and eventually win is the best and dare I say the most democratic way at handling this.....and HEY my girl Latoya had to go....got to live with it.....

As for her attitude..as in her comments "I don't care if I win or not".....My take on it is she probably felt that her performing and showing what she could do in front of millions of viewers was her award. She knows she got it and there ain't really nothing else to it.....Cause even you got it or you don't...PERIOD!!!!!


When you're grace with talent like that...you ain't got to beg for people to vote for you.....
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Reply #25 posted 05/13/04 11:14am

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I didn't care for her attitude, anyway. confused
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Reply #26 posted 05/13/04 11:17am

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If it wasnt for Fantasia being on there still i would NOT be watching this got damn show anymore.

If the worst person of the night can beat on of the best because she was CRYING cuz she knew she was leaving? I definitley should stop watching.

If Fantasia does not win i am giving up on the fucking show for good.

Even Paula Abdul was crying..people were screaming and booing, Simon said Fantasia and LaToya shouldnt be on there and that it is a terrible American mistake.

Got dammit!


Why'd you watch it in the first place? razz
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Reply #27 posted 05/13/04 11:21am

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kisscamille said:

. The blacks will vote for Fantasia, the whites for Diana and the Asians will vote for Jasmine. I'm not saying this is 100%, but for the most part, this is how the voting will go, so get on the phone next week people and vote for your favourite!


irrespective of colour! confused
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The whole damn show is rigged and whats worse is that we cant even bring the real AI LATOYA back...how messed up is this...wall
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