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Is MTV still cutting edge?? Does anyone think that MTV is still cutting edge? why or why not. I remember back in the early 90's, MTV was very cutting edge. I can remember them being the first to show the grunge movement in its infancy stages and it seemed as if you were watcng something so new and fresh in music. These days, it seems as if MTV is so dictated by demographics, Billboard charts, etc. It seems to be less about the music but more about attracting a target audience. what do you think? | |
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MTV is about as cutting edge as Wonderbread.
Why? 1. More reality TV programming than actual music videos. 2. Caters to the tween crowd. Which means a lot of dumb, soulless empty music videos. 3. Stupidly bans videos based on puritanical policies (ex. Janet Jackson) 4. Has odd obession with P. Diddy, who they seem to view as some sort of musical visionary. 5. Plays Clay Aiken (and idiots vote for it). 6. No matter what Britney releases, it will air 24/7. And it will go to No. 1. D'ya hear me? It will 7. Considers the following to be incisive journalism: To: Usher From: HugbleHunny Subject: “Burn” Hey Usher! I LOVE your new song “Burn” so much because I can really relate to it. But, I just want to know if you wrote that song for a specific person, or if you were just writing? OK, well thanks so much! Much Love! To: HugbleHunny From: Usher Subject: “Burn” Hey, The song wasn't for a specific person, it was for all of us who are going through it. Usher To: Usher From: bigushsgirl Subject: hi! Hi, I love u so much and I was just wondering now that you have accomplished being the top selling male R&B artist, what is next on your list? To: bigushsgirl From: Usher Subject: hi! Hey, Next on the list is a tour in September. Check it out. Thanks, Usher [This message was edited Sat May 15 11:09:33 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: MTV is about as cutting edge as Wonderbread.
Why? 1. More reality TV programming than actual music videos. 2. Caters to the tween crowd. Which means a lot of dumb, soulless empty music videos. 3. Stupidly bans videos based on puritanical policies (ex. Janet Jackson) 4. Has odd obession with P. Diddy, who they seem to view as some sort of musical visionary. 5. Plays Clay Aiken (and idiots vote for it). 6. No matter what Britney releases, it will air 24/7. And it will go to No. 1. D'ya hear me? It will 7. Considers the following to be incisive journalism: To: Usher From: HugbleHunny Subject: “Burn” Hey Usher! I LOVE your new song “Burn” so much because I can really relate to it. But, I just want to know if you wrote that song for a specific person, or if you were just writing? OK, well thanks so much! Much Love! To: HugbleHunny From: Usher Subject: “Burn” Hey, The song wasn't for a specific person, it was for all of us who are going through it. Usher To: Usher From: bigushsgirl Subject: hi! Hi, I love u so much and I was just wondering now that you have accomplished being the top selling male R&B artist, what is next on your list? To: bigushsgirl From: Usher Subject: hi! Hey, Next on the list is a tour in September. Check it out. Thanks, Usher [This message was edited Sat May 15 11:09:33 2004 by VoicesCarry] Not only that, what is MTV's obsession with pop and hip hop videos...you rarely see any rock on there anymore???? | |
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DigitalGardin said: VoicesCarry said: MTV is about as cutting edge as Wonderbread.
Why? 1. More reality TV programming than actual music videos. 2. Caters to the tween crowd. Which means a lot of dumb, soulless empty music videos. 3. Stupidly bans videos based on puritanical policies (ex. Janet Jackson) 4. Has odd obession with P. Diddy, who they seem to view as some sort of musical visionary. 5. Plays Clay Aiken (and idiots vote for it). 6. No matter what Britney releases, it will air 24/7. And it will go to No. 1. D'ya hear me? It will 7. Considers the following to be incisive journalism: To: Usher From: HugbleHunny Subject: “Burn” Hey Usher! I LOVE your new song “Burn” so much because I can really relate to it. But, I just want to know if you wrote that song for a specific person, or if you were just writing? OK, well thanks so much! Much Love! To: HugbleHunny From: Usher Subject: “Burn” Hey, The song wasn't for a specific person, it was for all of us who are going through it. Usher To: Usher From: bigushsgirl Subject: hi! Hi, I love u so much and I was just wondering now that you have accomplished being the top selling male R&B artist, what is next on your list? To: bigushsgirl From: Usher Subject: hi! Hey, Next on the list is a tour in September. Check it out. Thanks, Usher [This message was edited Sat May 15 11:09:33 2004 by VoicesCarry] Not only that, what is MTV's obsession with pop and hip hop videos...you rarely see any rock on there anymore???? Well, even then, they hardly show REAL hip hop. It's the kind of shit that Bad Boy churns out at an alarming rate. There's a program on MuchMusic on Canada called "RapCity" that actually tries to correct that little injustice. | |
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VoicesCarry said: DigitalGardin said: Not only that, what is MTV's obsession with pop and hip hop videos...you rarely see any rock on there anymore???? Well, even then, they hardly show REAL hip hop. It's the kind of shit that Bad Boy churns out at an alarming rate. There's a program on MuchMusic on Canada called "RapCity" that actually tries to correct that little injustice. u r right..they rarely show real hip hop or diversity in hip hop..it seems as if MTV is motivated by whatever billboard dictates  | |
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DigitalGardin said: Not only that, what is MTV's obsession with pop and hip hop videos...you rarely see any rock on there anymore???? no u dont and im sure they just continuously repeat the same hour of videos over & over  | |
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Cutting edge would mean that Mtv is musically relevant, but nowadays it's about as musically relevant as Rolling Stone. Both entities are musically irrelevant, but they've become hubs of pop culture. The music isn't what's important anymore, it's not primary, or even secondary for that matter. They're more concerned with fly by night stars with little to no longevity, or long term artistic impact.
I see this as part of a domino effect with regard to how record companies are signing performers who wouldn't have had a chance in hell of getting a recording contract 20 or more years ago because of lack of talent or skill. But this doesn't absolve the likes of Rolling Stone from breaking from the mold. Which is exactly what they were doing for at least the first half of the magazine's existence. When Mtv went on the air in 1981 the music industry was in a sort of cyclical slump, and they blazed their own path as a video station. That doesn't mean they didn't play what was commercial, it means that they played both what was commercial, and what had little chance of becoming commercial on radio (e.g., songs by Gang of Four and Peter Gabriel) - and it took them about a year and a half to even play videos featuring Black artists'. Now both RS and Mtv are about fitting in and not rocking the boat. It's safer. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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MTV hasn't been cutting edge since the 80's. And they weren't "really" cutting edge then.
They are all about the Flop 40 now. | |
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I wish they would leave the air.Then I'd be happy.I hate them and VIACOM | |
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Mtv used to be funny!
I WAN'T MY MTV BACK! oh yeah and "Jackass" was shit! | |
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Established businesses and institutions can't afford to be cutting edge. They've got payrolls to meet and stockholders to answer to. That's why they have to monopolize the media because if anything of any true value leaked out they would lose money. Of course when their own artists actually put anything out worth talking about they promote the hell out of it ala Outkast.
Hip-hop and Rock as we know them are basically dead (rock has been for decades now). Hopefully, somebody can incorporate them into a new sound and roll with that. As it is, the guitar is an archaic tool, and should be laid to rest. I'm tired of promising musicians trying to walk down the same tired roads as their predecessors. Try something new for a change.  |
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whodknee said:[quote]Established businesses and institutions can't afford to be cutting edge. They've got payrolls to meet and stockholders to answer to. That's why they have to monopolize the media because if anything of any true value leaked out they would lose money. Of course when their own artists actually put anything out worth talking about they promote the hell out of it ala Outkast.
Hip-hop and Rock as we know them are basically dead (rock has been for decades now). Hopefully, somebody can incorporate them into a new sound and roll with that. As it is, the guitar is an archaic tool, and should be laid to rest. I'm tired of promising musicians trying to walk down the same tired roads as their predecessors. Try something new for a change. [/quote
Yeah,but hasn't evrything been done in the last 50 years of r&R?What's left? Doesn't have to be the most original thing to me,just "don't bore us,get to the chorus"  | |
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Well they did lose points when they changed mtv2's format and removed 120minutes.  | |
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yeah your so right! really MTV should change their name is RTV 
Their Reality TV doesn't have a Music Theme How many more 18-24 year old high strung losers complaining about who's turn it is to clean the dishes are we going to have to see | |
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one of my favorite college proffesors used to always say 'there are no dumb questions'
up until now, i thought he was right. MTV BLOWS | |
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This thread sounds like a bunch of grumpy old men sitting on a park bench feeding the birds and bitching about the world.
Kids love dance music. They buy the music. Kids watch MTV around the world. MTV plays hot dance music. There you have it. | |
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If you have to ask you don't know | |
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not when they keep playing Alicia Keys, Mario Winans, Beastie Boys, Usher, Beyonce, D-12, Lloyd Banks, Coheed-whatever, Sugar cult, Hoobastank, Jessica Simpson, Franz whoever, Lenny K, and Petey Pablo over and over.
I don't sleep well most nights and they are killing me with their insomniac theater! Maybe a better name would be LTV for "Loop Television." "Pedro offers you his protection." | |
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VoicesCarry said: MTV is about as cutting edge as Wonderbread.
Why? 1. More reality TV programming than actual music videos. 2. Caters to the tween crowd. Which means a lot of dumb, soulless empty music videos. 3. Stupidly bans videos based on puritanical policies (ex. Janet Jackson) 4. Has odd obession with P. Diddy, who they seem to view as some sort of musical visionary. 5. Plays Clay Aiken (and idiots vote for it). 6. No matter what Britney releases, it will air 24/7. And it will go to No. 1. D'ya hear me? It will 7. Considers the following to be incisive journalism: To: Usher From: HugbleHunny Subject: “Burn” Hey Usher! I LOVE your new song “Burn” so much because I can really relate to it. But, I just want to know if you wrote that song for a specific person, or if you were just writing? OK, well thanks so much! Much Love! To: HugbleHunny From: Usher Subject: “Burn” Hey, The song wasn't for a specific person, it was for all of us who are going through it. Usher To: Usher From: bigushsgirl Subject: hi! Hi, I love u so much and I was just wondering now that you have accomplished being the top selling male R&B artist, what is next on your list? To: bigushsgirl From: Usher Subject: hi! Hey, Next on the list is a tour in September. Check it out. Thanks, Usher [This message was edited Sat May 15 11:09:33 2004 by VoicesCarry] You are so right!! I love your perspective on things. | |
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