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innervisions !!!!! by the way can anyone recommend a good Stevie wonder bio. i have heard the music but know very little about his life story. i would reallt like to know more about him . like how he learned to play all those instruments and how he wrote all those great songs and what he was like when he was younger and all that. |
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chrisslope9 said: innervisions !!!!! by the way can anyone recommend a good Stevie wonder bio. i have heard the music but know very little about his life story. i would reallt like to know more about him . like how he learned to play all those instruments and how he wrote all those great songs and what he was like when he was younger and all that.
There really isn't a good biography out there, but this is pretty interesting... http://www.steviewonder.o...graphy.htm | |
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SITKOL is one of my most favorite albums..I was only 8 when it came out. I think thats when I started to really appreciate music after that. | |
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AQUABOOGIE said: SITKOL is one of my most favorite albums..I was only 8 when it came out. I think thats when I started to really appreciate music after that.
One of the GREATEST ALBUMS OF ANY TIME!! | |
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DavidEye said: if you took the ten best songs from this album (take your pick) and made it into a single album,you would still have an album that rivals 'Innervisions' and 'Talking Book'.
damn true! and I would even go further and say: u can randomly pick any 10 songs outta SITKOL and it probably still would be my fave... but there's another point: in some way u have to take the length of an album into consideration when rating it. otherwise it would be real easy to turn any average album and turn it into a great "15 minute album" by just dropping the fillers and leaving 2 or 3 standout tracks... . [This message was edited Mon May 24 4:09:11 2004 by Dancelot] Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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Dancelot said: DavidEye said: if you took the ten best songs from this album (take your pick) and made it into a single album,you would still have an album that rivals 'Innervisions' and 'Talking Book'.
damn true! and I would even go further and say: u can randomly pick any 10 songs outta SITKOL and it probably still would be my fave... but there'se another point: in some way u have to take the length of an album into consideration when rating it. otherwise it would be real easy to turn any average album and turn it into a great one by just dropping the fillers and leaving 2 or 3 standout tracks... this brings up the inevitable question... Let's assume that,in 1976,Motown told Stevie to trim down 'SITKOL' into one album.Yeah,I know it's difficult,but what songs would you keep? These are the vinyl days,so choose five songs for each side. Here's my list... Stevie Wonder 'Songs In The Key Of Life'--- SIDE 1--- Sir Duke Have A Talk With God Village Ghetto Land As (edited version) Summer Soft SIDE 2--- I Wish Knocks Me Off My Feet I Am Singing If It's Magic Another Star (edited version) It breaks my heart to have to remove stuff like "All Day Sucker","Isn't She Lovely","Ordinary Pain" etc,but even with just those ten songs that I picked,you still have an incredible album. | |
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Songs In The Key Of Life. The whole damn thing is so brilliant it's ridiculous.
Innervisions is ace, too.  | |
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DavidEye said: this brings up the inevitable question... Let's assume that,in 1976,Motown told Stevie to trim down 'SITKOL' into one album.Yeah,I know it's difficult,but what songs would you keep? These are the vinyl days,so choose five songs for each side. Here's my list... tough choice!! but my pick probably would look like this LP Side 1: Love's in Need of Love Today Have a Talk With God Village Ghetto Land Knocks Me off My Feet Joy Inside My Tears LP Side 2 Sir Duke I Wish As Another Star If It's Magic Bonus Single (is this cheating  ??)
Saturn Ebony Eyes and let's get the rest of the songs in another album 8 months after!!! . [This message was edited Mon May 24 4:34:14 2004 by Dancelot] Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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| great tracklist! I'm so glad that Motown allowed Stevie to release it as a massive double album with a bonus 4-song EP. | |
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both are slammin. Songs In The Key Of Life is extra lovely | |
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Both albums are incredible.
That said, Innervisions is the best project, WITHOUT A DOUBT. As much as I love SITKOL, it has a decent amount of filler ("Ordinary Pain", for example). Even some of the more brilliant tracks overstay their welcome, with ridiculously lengthy running times. Not only do I feel that Innervisions is a superior album, but I also feel that Talking Book is a better album than SITKOL. I would probably rate SITKOL third, however... | |
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todd305 said: Both albums are incredible.
That said, Innervisions is the best project, WITHOUT A DOUBT. As much as I love SITKOL, it has a decent amount of filler ("Ordinary Pain", for example). Even some of the more brilliant tracks overstay their welcome, with ridiculously lengthy running times. Not only do I feel that Innervisions is a superior album, but I also feel that Talking Book is a better album than SITKOL. I would probably rate SITKOL third, however... That's pretty much how I feel about it. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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todd305 said: Both albums are incredible.
That said, Innervisions is the best project, WITHOUT A DOUBT. As much as I love SITKOL, it has a decent amount of filler ("Ordinary Pain", for example). Even some of the more brilliant tracks overstay their welcome, with ridiculously lengthy running times. Not only do I feel that Innervisions is a superior album, but I also feel that Talking Book is a better album than SITKOL. I would probably rate SITKOL third, however... Interesting analysis.That's probably my only criticism of SITKOL...a few tracks ("Black Man","Isn't She Lovely") do seem to go a little too long.But then I think,would we REALLY want these songs to be edited? Sure,"As" is a lengthy song,but it's so beautiful and amazing that I really don't mind one bit (it seems to have a never-ending chorus,lol). Some people say this album has a few filler tracks,but I think every song fits perfectly and there isn't anything I would remove."Ordinary Pain" is one of the most interesting songs (tell me that second part isn't funky).It all flows together like one big concept album,taking you through the journey of life.It's easily the most consistent double-album that I've ever heard.Even the four "bonus" songs are great,and notably,these four songs don't sound like anything else on the album.The underrated "All Day Sucker" is the funkiest Stevie Wonder jam of all time,imo. I never listen to SITKOL in bits and pieces...it's one of those albums that deserves to be played from beginning to end.When it's over,all you can do is scratch your head in amazement.It's the work of a true musical genuis. [This message was edited Tue May 25 2:00:07 2004 by DavidEye] | |
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Dancelot said: DavidEye said: this brings up the inevitable question... Let's assume that,in 1976,Motown told Stevie to trim down 'SITKOL' into one album.Yeah,I know it's difficult,but what songs would you keep? These are the vinyl days,so choose five songs for each side. Here's my list... tough choice!! but my pick probably would look like this LP Side 1: Love's in Need of Love Today Have a Talk With God Village Ghetto Land Knocks Me off My Feet Joy Inside My Tears LP Side 2 Sir Duke I Wish As Another Star If It's Magic Bonus Single (is this cheating ??)
Saturn Ebony Eyes  how dare you remove my favorite song "Summer Soft" from the album! " | |
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DavidEye said: Interesting analysis.That's probably my only criticism of SITKOL...a few tracks ("Black Man","Isn't She Lovely") do seem to go a little too long.But then I think,would we REALLY want these songs to be edited? Sure,"As" is a lengthy song,but it's so beautiful and amazing that I really don't mind one bit (it seems to have a never-ending chorus,lol).
Some people say this album has a few filler tracks,but I think every song fits perfectly and there isn't anything I would remove."Ordinary Pain" is one of the most interesting songs (tell me that second part isn't funky).It all flows together like one big concept album,taking you through the journey of life.It's easily the most consistent double-album that I've ever heard.Even the four "bonus" songs are great,and notably,these four songs don't sound like anything else on the album.The underrated "All Day Sucker" is the funkiest Stevie Wonder jam of all time,imo. I never listen to SITKOL in bits and pieces...it's one of those albums that deserves to be played from beginning to end.When it's over,all you can do is scratch your head in amazement.It's the work of a true musical genuis. [This message was edited Tue May 25 2:00:07 2004 by DavidEye] I could'nt agree more  take any so called "filler" track from SITKOL and it would still be a standout track on practically any album by any other artist!
DavidEye said: how dare you remove my favorite song "Summer Soft" from the album! " Haha well this was a very spontaneus editing, I might choose different tracks if I do the same thing in 2 days or a week from now  Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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DavidEye said: todd305 said: Both albums are incredible.
That said, Innervisions is the best project, WITHOUT A DOUBT. As much as I love SITKOL, it has a decent amount of filler ("Ordinary Pain", for example). Even some of the more brilliant tracks overstay their welcome, with ridiculously lengthy running times. Not only do I feel that Innervisions is a superior album, but I also feel that Talking Book is a better album than SITKOL. I would probably rate SITKOL third, however... Interesting analysis.That's probably my only criticism of SITKOL...a few tracks ("Black Man","Isn't She Lovely") do seem to go a little too long.But then I think,would we REALLY want these songs to be edited? Sure,"As" is a lengthy song,but it's so beautiful and amazing that I really don't mind one bit (it seems to have a never-ending chorus,lol). Some people say this album has a few filler tracks,but I think every song fits perfectly and there isn't anything I would remove."Ordinary Pain" is one of the most interesting songs (tell me that second part isn't funky).It all flows together like one big concept album,taking you through the journey of life.It's easily the most consistent double-album that I've ever heard.Even the four "bonus" songs are great,and notably,these four songs don't sound like anything else on the album.The underrated "All Day Sucker" is the funkiest Stevie Wonder jam of all time,imo. I never listen to SITKOL in bits and pieces...it's one of those albums that deserves to be played from beginning to end.When it's over,all you can do is scratch your head in amazement.It's the work of a true musical genuis.  | |
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