VinaBlue said:

Don't make me hurt you!

Give her a chance, she's definetly an aquired taste. Once you get to know her, you'll be hooked.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Yeah, whatever. Vina, if you don't already have Kate's 'The Whole Story' compilation then get that first. Stores are selling it for under $10 I think. Then based on whatever songs you like on there, get the respective album(s). That's much more practical.

sextonseven said:

No it's not! Cause she's gonna end up wanting to own all of her stuff and everything that's on that Whole Story compilation is included in the box set. So, she's gonna end up wasting 10 bucks in the end when she just could've put it towards the cost of the box set.
IMO the whole story isn't a great representation of her work.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Aquired taste... that makes sense, because honestly Kate's voice doesn't THRILL me at all. Then again Tori bugged the fuck out of me until God and I didn't buy an album until Pele. I just don't think it's required to like Kate just because she came before Tori. I'm not all that into Sly and the Family Stone or any other acts that inspired Prince...

sinisterpentatonic said:

Why don't you just make me a copy of it and I'll make you a copy of all my Duran Duran cds?

sinisterpentatonic said:

I have 'The Whole Story' and it didn't make me want to own every Kate album.

VinaBlue said:

Who said you were required? Just thought you might dig some of her stuff.

but if you don't listen who will you pass that big Kate Bush exam we have coming up?
You know her class is a required credit! Don't you?

VinaBlue said:

I'm trying to figure out what's in that for me?

sextonseven said:

Did you buy them anyway?

sinisterpentatonic said:

The only other Kate album I have is 'The Sensual World.' I will admit that all this Kate talk may inspire me to pick up 'Hounds Of Love'. I like the three songs I've heard from it (from 'The Whole Story') and many people agree that was her best album.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Same here... that's my point! I wont necessarily become a fan if I hear all her stuff. It might not touch me like it does you. Does Kate have anything that stands up to Professional Widow? Iieee? Cruel? Again, it's personal taste. Plus, timing is important. Maybe I'm too late to get into her stuff... maybe I'll be "ready" for her in the future...

I did get The Red Shoes for obvious reasons and I didn't hold my attention. I must have sold it.

Kate's Brazil

I just thought of something funny... I've been compared to both Tori and Kate by some pretty unreliable sources...



I'm sure they meant well.


[This message was edited Thu May 6 14:28:07 2004 by VinaBlue]

Yeah, I bought that " This Woman's Work" box back in 90'... One of the best investments I ever made! I mean I knew of Kate, and I had Hounds Of Love and The Sensual World, but going through her whole body of work gave me a much greater appreciation for her...I hope the new album measures up ( whenever it shows up)...

"...Ta Ta Ta...."

VinaBlue said:

Goodness! Kate has stuff that's a trillion times better than those songs. Granted, Professional Widow is a gem (not the lame remix) but Iieee and Cruel? Even Tori herself has done better work than that. However, like you say, it's all down to personal taste. Aside from the obvious similarities, one of the things both Kate & Tori do have in common is that they take a while to fully appreciate.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Mine doesn't.



Mine doesn't.

Er...Kate. Too easy.

Cloudbuster said:

hehehehehehehehehehehehheheh

ehheheheh


heh

Cloudbuster said:

Sinister reading those cool linear notes he got with his box set



Sinister listening to those bonus tracks that came with the box set

Cloudbuster said:

Come on Buster!! Your's didn't come with these?

1. Empty Bullring
2. Ran Tan Waltz
3. Passing Through Air
4. December Will Be Magic Again
5. Warm and Soothing
6. Lord of the Reedy River
7. Ne T'En Fui Pas
8. Basier d'Enfant
9. Under the Ivy
10. Burning Bridge
11. My Lagan Love
12. Handsome Cabin Boy
13. Not This Time
14. Walk Straight Down the Middle
15. Be Kind to My Mistakes

1. Wuthering Heights
2. James and the Cold Gun
3. I'm Still Waiting
4. Ken
5. One Last Look Around the House Before We Go...
6. Wuthering Heights
7. Experiment IV
8. Them Heavy People
9. Don't Push Your Foot on the Heartbreak
10. James and the Gold Gun
11. L'Amour Looks Something Like You
12. Running Up That Hill
13. Cloudbursting [The Organon Mix]
14. Hound of Love [Alternative]
15. Big Sky [Meteorological Mix]
16. Experiment IV [12" Mix]

Oh! Those. Yeah, I have those. I thought you meant outtakes amended to the studio albums.

My albums aren't remastered, tho'.

Cloudbuster said:

Heheheheh

INFLUENCE?

Let's see:
Kate's debut 1978
Kate in a box


Tori's debut 1992
Tori in a box


COPYCAT! COPYCAT!

KATE KATE KATE KATE


DAMN IT!!!!!

PANDURITO said:

That similarity and many others are discussed in the link cloudbuster posted.

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, I was referring to worldwide success. Overall, Tori has sold more albums. Quite frankly, I think that its BS either way. Tori and Kate are both fantastic, regardless of how many discs they've sold. I just know that some people use this as a criteria for success (how many people have used the argument with Prince's albums?). Still, it seems the few Kate fans I've met who rag on Tori don't really have a real reason for disliking her. They seem bitter that someone who was influenced by Kate could have surpassed her in popularity.

I really think anyone using the argument that Tori "copies" Kate have not really listened to her music. They've gone in pretty different directions. I love 'em both, and don't have to choose one!!!!

PANDURITO said:

Oh wow! They're both in a box! Gosh, that settles it!

Hell, the Dixie Chicks must be ripping off the Beatles 'cause Abbey Road has the guys walking across the street, and Home has the girls standing in the middle of one (and, of course, anytime I hear the Dixie Chicks all I can think is "gosh, these girls really are trying to sound like John, Paul, George and Ringo)!!!


Of course, that doesn't explain how come Little Earthquakes and The Kick Inside sound nothing alike....