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Thread started 04/30/04 2:04pm

crazyhorse

Sly Stone or George P.

...lets hear the arguments for and against these two kings.
For me the choice is easy.Sly & the Family Stone do it for me,always have.G.P Parliment Funkadelic just dont impress me on the same level.Its not something I can explain,just whats in my heart.Take Parliments funkiest jam"Onenationunderagroove" its bad and all of that but compare it to"Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" and Family Stone cross the line first n pick up a win.Your opinions???

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Reply #1 posted 04/30/04 2:45pm

diamondpearl1

since i can't see the music of 2day existin without either respective crews, what i'd like 2 see is larry and bootsie jammin 2getha on bass....maaan the hardcore jollies that they took to the stage would have a riot goin on and really tear the roof off the mothasucka 'cause everybody in their bands is a star... and that's not just knee deep 'cause i'm dreamin of the way all the sexy bodies would move 2 the electric spankin of all us war babies...ahhh the joys of hot fun in the summer time and yes its a family affiar....
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/04 3:04pm

Supernova

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Since there is no either/or to be made for me I'll take both.

Oh, I like strawberries AND grapes too...whowouldathunkit?


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Reply #3 posted 04/30/04 3:08pm

Anxiety

Not a fair choice at all!
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Reply #4 posted 04/30/04 3:11pm

psykosoul

Supernova said:

Since there is no either/or to be made for me I'll take both.

Oh, I like strawberries AND grapes too...whowouldathunkit?


wink


same here lol
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Reply #5 posted 04/30/04 3:13pm

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psykosoul said:

Supernova said:

Since there is no either/or to be made for me I'll take both.

Oh, I like strawberries AND grapes too...whowouldathunkit?


wink


same here lol


Ditto! wink
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/04 3:15pm

TheFrog

I got to be honest here and admit my funktastic failures. I never really got into the whole George Clinton thing (maybe i made a fatal mistake early on, since my first purchase was The (goddam) Cinderella theory).

I spin Fresh, Stand, There's a riot...all the time. Thankyou...i think is a bit overrated. Just a funky bass line with compilation lyrics. But like - Running Away, Babies makin' babies, If you want me to stay and all that - just fucking love Sly's albums.

Though i bought some cheap-ass CD with early Sly stuff on (I assume). Horrible do-wop thing going on. Songs like You're my only love, Heavenly angel, You've forgotten me... You guys know these tracks?
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Reply #7 posted 04/30/04 3:19pm

psykosoul

TheFrog said:

I got to be honest here and admit my funktastic failures. I never really got into the whole George Clinton thing (maybe i made a fatal mistake early on, since my first purchase was The (goddam) Cinderella theory).


omfg If you wanna know the real reason George is the shit. It'd be in your best interest to start with 3 best of compilations:

1 cd containing the best of Parliament and 2 cds of Funkadelic: one for the Westbound years and one for the Warner Bros. years.
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Reply #8 posted 04/30/04 3:43pm

Sinister

psykosoul said:

TheFrog said:

I got to be honest here and admit my funktastic failures. I never really got into the whole George Clinton thing (maybe i made a fatal mistake early on, since my first purchase was The (goddam) Cinderella theory).


omfg If you wanna know the real reason George is the shit. It'd be in your best interest to start with 3 best of compilations:

1 cd containing the best of Parliament and 2 cds of Funkadelic: one for the Westbound years and one for the Warner Bros. years.

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Reply #9 posted 04/30/04 4:03pm

crazyhorse

Funkadelic is like listening to the Beastie Boys.
A whole bunch of talent with different ideas on how they should bet there.
So they all lose eachother during the song,come togheter at the end.Weak direction.
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Reply #10 posted 04/30/04 4:11pm

psykosoul

crazyhorse said:

Funkadelic is like listening to the Beastie Boys.
A whole bunch of talent with different ideas on how they should bet there.
So they all lose eachother during the song,come togheter at the end.Weak direction.


Blasphemous disbelief
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Reply #11 posted 04/30/04 4:32pm

paligap

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crazyhorse said:

Funkadelic is like listening to the Beastie Boys.
A whole bunch of talent with different ideas on how they should bet there.
So they all lose eachother during the song,come togheter at the end.Weak direction.


Sounds like You want your funk real tight. The Parliament/ Funkadelic thang is much freer and looser...But Sly's solo stuff is even murkier....
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Reply #12 posted 04/30/04 4:38pm

Thumparello

Sly and P-Funk are both great. They actually came around the same time. But Sly made his impact first. P-Funk was already doing that before Sly. Most aren't aware of this.


Sly and The Family Stone opened for P-Funk on their Earth Tour. It was the shit. Also Santana and Hugh Maskela were opening acts for The Funk Mob.


Why do we have to choose? Both are the shit! Wish Sly could have recorded longer though.
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/04 5:03pm

thetimefan

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I'd have 2 say George Clinton! cool although Sly is cool too.
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Reply #14 posted 04/30/04 9:43pm

13inchshoe

Very tough,But gotta go with DR Funkenstein and crew.
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/04 2:01am

YODAHENDRIX

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crazyhorse said:

...lets hear the arguments for and against these two kings.
For me the choice is easy.Sly & the Family Stone do it for me,always have.G.P Parliment Funkadelic just dont impress me on the same level.Its not something I can explain,just whats in my heart.Take Parliments funkiest jam"Onenationunderagroove" its bad and all of that but compare it to"Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" and Family Stone cross the line first n pick up a win.Your opinions???


Without a doubt, Parliament Funkadelic reign supreme as Kings of the FUNK.

Sly and the Family Stone are a 'circus' act in comparison 2 what the Funk mob brought 2 the genre.
Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
The Funk will always b with u
"I've got a face, not just my race, Bang
Bang I've got you babe!"
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/04 2:03am

YODAHENDRIX

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crazyhorse said:

Funkadelic is like listening to the Beastie Boys.
A whole bunch of talent with different ideas on how they should bet there.
So they all lose eachother during the song,come togheter at the end.Weak direction.

Beasties kick ass, what u talkin' boy?
Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
The Funk will always b with u
"I've got a face, not just my race, Bang
Bang I've got you babe!"
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Reply #17 posted 05/01/04 2:11am

crazyhorse

YODAHENDRIX said:

crazyhorse said:

Funkadelic is like listening to the Beastie Boys.
A whole bunch of talent with different ideas on how they should bet there.
So they all lose eachother during the song,come togheter at the end.Weak direction.

Beasties kick ass, what u talkin' boy?

Yeah they got some bad shit for sure,but what word am I looking for? They" clown" to much ,breaks up the momentum of whats going on.
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Reply #18 posted 05/01/04 4:43am

crazyhorse

What I think many of you have missed is when Sly Stone got the family toghether it was 1967.And there was no precedent for him to follow.I mean jammin" Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey" in 1967.A stage mixed with black n white straight tearin it up.I'm sorry but saying they didnt bring much is completely upside down.I dig Clinton,I just dig Sly more.Go buy the stone two disc set and remember what the late 60's were like.Aside from the fact Sly's music is arranged and just plain better

1 Underdog
2 I Cannot Make It
3 Dance To The Music
4 Are You Ready?
5 Fun
6 M'lady
7 Life
8 Love City
9 Stand!
10 Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey
11 I Want To Take You Higher
12 Somebody's Watching You
13 Sing A Simple Song
14 Everyday People
15 You Can Make It If You Try
16 Hot Fun In The Summertime
17 Everybody Is A Star
18 Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)
Disc 2
1 Family Affair
2 Luv N' Haight
3 Poet
4 (You Caught Me) Smilin'
5 Runnin' Away
6 Brave & Strong
7 Just Like A Baby
8 Thank You For Talkin' To Me, Africa
9 In Time
10 If You Want Me To Stay
11 Frisky
12 Skin I'm In
13 Babies Makin' Babies
14 If It Were Left Up To Me
15 Time For Livin'
16 Loose Booty
17 I Get High On You

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Reply #19 posted 05/01/04 11:29am

Supernova

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crazyhorse said:

What I think many of you have missed is when Sly Stone got the family toghether it was 1967.And there was no precedent for him to follow.I mean jammin" Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey" in 1967.

Sure, I think most people here are aware of that. And I'm not trying to nitpick, but that's a 1969 song to be exact.


Aside from the fact Sly's music is arranged and just plain better

Like all art, it's subjective.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #20 posted 05/01/04 2:21pm

Thumparello

Supernova said:

crazyhorse said:

What I think many of you have missed is when Sly Stone got the family toghether it was 1967.And there was no precedent for him to follow.I mean jammin" Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey" in 1967.

Sure, I think most people here are aware of that. And I'm not trying to nitpick, but that's a 1969 song to be exact.


Aside from the fact Sly's music is arranged and just plain better

Like all art, it's subjective.



You really need to check out not only Sly but the entire P-Funk catalog to be really educated on their music and catalog. Seek out the Parliament lps and Funkadelic. Bootsy's Rubber Band, Parlet, The Brides Of Funkenstein, Eddie Hazel, Ruth Copeland etc.

You can find stuff with the Parliaments dating back to 1956. You don't know the music are history.
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Reply #21 posted 05/01/04 3:35pm

Supernova

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Thumparello said:

Supernova said:


Like all art, it's subjective.



You really need to check out not only Sly but the entire P-Funk catalog to be really educated on their music and catalog. Seek out the Parliament lps and Funkadelic. Bootsy's Rubber Band, Parlet, The Brides Of Funkenstein, Eddie Hazel, Ruth Copeland etc.

You can find stuff with the Parliaments dating back to 1956. You don't know the music are history.

Say what? neutral I never advocated one over the other, own both PFunk (and some of their offshoot's) material, Sly & Company's material, and am well aware The Parliments started out in the '50s.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #22 posted 05/01/04 9:58pm

purplebutterfl
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I think both music groups are cool. I can still do the loose booty lol
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Reply #23 posted 05/02/04 3:08am

crazyhorse

purplebutterfly2 said:

I think both music groups are cool. I can still do the loose booty lol

LOL...what exactly is the loose booty?
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/04 6:39am

sosgemini

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Space for sale...
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Reply #25 posted 05/02/04 12:32pm

SquarePeg

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can't possibly choose, they're both great in their own ways.
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Reply #26 posted 05/02/04 1:15pm

Meloh9

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They are all part of the same family. Sly was a huge inluence on George and most funk and R&B,not to mention Sly became a member of Funkadelic later on. Check the credits on the album The Electric Spanking Of War Babies.
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/04 1:15pm

Thumparello

Supernova said:

Thumparello said:




You really need to check out not only Sly but the entire P-Funk catalog to be really educated on their music and catalog. Seek out the Parliament lps and Funkadelic. Bootsy's Rubber Band, Parlet, The Brides Of Funkenstein, Eddie Hazel, Ruth Copeland etc.

You can find stuff with the Parliaments dating back to 1956. You don't know the music are history.

Say what? neutral I never advocated one over the other, own both PFunk (and some of their offshoot's) material, Sly & Company's material, and am well aware The Parliments started out in the '50s.



Sorry I meant this for the person who originally started this post. oops! lol
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/04 1:54pm

Supernova

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Thumparello said:

Supernova said:


Say what? neutral I never advocated one over the other, own both PFunk (and some of their offshoot's) material, Sly & Company's material, and am well aware The Parliments started out in the '50s.



Sorry I meant this for the person who originally started this post. oops! lol

Ahh. I see. thumbs up!
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Reply #29 posted 05/02/04 7:08pm

crazyhorse

Thumparello said:

Supernova said:


Like all art, it's subjective.


You really need to check out not only Sly but the entire P-Funk catalog to be really educated on their music and catalog. Seek out the Parliament lps and Funkadelic. Bootsy's Rubber Band, Parlet, The Brides Of Funkenstein, Eddie Hazel, Ruth Copeland etc.
You can find stuff with the Parliaments dating back to 1956. You don't know the music are history.

Yeah I understand and have heard most of there work.My older sister was a funkadelic disciple.There music was doo-wop,and didnt even get funky until Sly was already on the scene doing his thing.And the fact remains that Sly brought alot to the table.Parliments new sound came after.There was no precedent for "Sly & the Family Stone."Instead of trying to find the correct wording to get my point accross the first time.Here's a quote from the music industry.

"Back in 1967, when the interracial, mixed-gender combo burst onto the scene with their debut album, the burgeoning rock & roll subculture was, as always, hungry for fresh kicks and different sounds. But no one was quite prepared for the magical, multi-faceted musical mix Sly and company served up. Their music was an inspired blend of rock, soul, pop, jazz, and an emerging genre soon to be dubbed funk. It packed a powerful, joyous wallop, delivering all the things one hoped to find in music: The thrill of the new, the excitement of the unexpected, a galvanizing groove, and lyrics that actually said something." SONY MUSIC
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