ok....well.....i got a frigging headache thats what!
sound was terrible...couldn't hear any of her vocals (dunno if thats a good
thing) imagine going through a wind tunnel ...with really loud bass sound in
your ear. you could feel it in your chest.

the "show" visuals were amazing..her dancers especially were wicked.
i'm a big fan of britney.....the whole pop/dance/show thing...but you know
what.....its all about beyonce right now. this looked desperate ,a little
about titillation and weak in comparison. i'm there with my girls..all
dancers so maybe we're a little harder to please. birtneys an ok performer,
not a great performer. there was a whole part which i would say was
pornagraphic..totally uneccesary. but then i guess she knows what shes
doing. but i don't think images of boy on boy....girl on girl and everything
in between is something young kids need to be shown. but hey..its art i
suppose. nothing madonna ain't already done.
god i'm sounding old.
overall its was a nice show to see....like going to see a musical. not
something i would want to see again. not like with prince.....you know the
three nights in a row thing i always do. now thats a real "show"
shes still got her audience and fan base.....her new album is actually very
good. i just thought the show could have been better for me personally. my
mate went to see beyonce at her last gig.....she told me beyonce has gone
up 100 fold in her estimation after seeing tonights gig.
anyways ...its giving me ideas for staging and all that..so all positive.

FORGET ABOUT BRITNEY¡¡¡¡¡ WE WANT MISTRI ON TOUR NOW¡¡¡¡¡

Delores said:

i'm geting the ideas now

msserendipity said:

Guess the mime tape recorder wasn't working at top volume that night.

VoicesCarry said:

well there were a lot of very suspect parts...her backing vocalists do carry a lot of the vocals. i guess she sings on top. who knows...its not completely live ..we all know that. not something expected from her shows i suppose. i've been at other shows at wembley and the sound has been terrible too.

but then jada pinkett was one of the support artist and she sounded fine. she was belting out her songs. good performance but songs were bot memorable ...but jc chasez sounded crap too. bass way too high.

msserendipity said:

i'm glad somebody is aware of that. britney is not an artist, she is an entertainer. and really, its kind of funny, she ISN'T doing anything different than what madonna did at an older age. i think most people need to let her grow up a little and mature and she what she does then...just like madonna supposedlly evolved as she got older.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 17:32:17 2004 by SassyBritches]

SassyBritches said:

no sassy bitch - i'm mean SMELLY BITCH- madonna was ALWAYS an artist! you call the messages of Like a Prayer "entertaining?" britney is just a dancer which is a form of r-rated entertainment the way she does it. your comment really disappointed me.

purplegypsy said:

ok, let's not get the video (which was not her idea) confused with the song. like a prayer is simply a song about good sex. britney makes a lot of those too. find me something on true blue that is any more artful than anything on in the zone. or better yet, you can dance!

SassyBritches said:

Um, "Papa Don't Preach", perchance? Or how about "Open Your Heart", which is better than anything Britney's ever done. Or "Live To Tell", a powerful song from the perspective of a rape victim.

And "Like A Prayer" is not simply about sex, although you've chosen to interpret it that way. It's about the transcendence of love, and the liberation it brings.

Madonna is to Britney Spears as Michael Jackson is to Justin Timberlake (although, unlike Britney, Justin can actually sing somewhat).
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 18:11:15 2004 by VoicesCarry]

SassyBritches said:

SASSY! you are sooo trying to push buttons right now. I know you don't believe that Madonna is an entertainer like Brintey-granted...I think her GAP - ad stunt is complete bullshit and all the other american life-era shit...and OK i'll give the MADONNA and LAV albums the "entertainer" shit Britney does...but anything between True Blue and beyond came from an artist. Maybe if Britney had something to say beyong "let's get crunked with britney" or "Oops I did it again" maybe she would be viewed as an artist.

purplegypsy said:

Madonna 4 albums in: Like A Prayer
Britney 4 albums in: In The Zone (which, miraculously, sounds almost EXACTLY the same as her previous 3)

Enough said. I GUARANTEE you we're never gonna get a song like "Oh Father" or "Till Death Do Us Part" from a Britney disc, let alone from her own pen in hand.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 18:18:57 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

not impressed with the obvious, bang it over your head with the message type lyrics of papa don't preach. open your heart is one of my least liked madonna singles. i'm actually not a fan of the true blue album at all. live to tell is the only song i really like off of it.

like a prayer is written in prince's style of combining spirituality with sexuality. its got prince written all over it. i know he's not credited with writing any of it but let's face it, madonna is not responsible for the depth of that song. regardless of all that, it is clearly a sexual song. i get what your saying about the "transendence of love" but, really, i think that is getting deeper than madonna thought. now, maybe if you mix the video up with the song, i could see that clearly. but, like i said, the video was not madonna's idea.

i'm not saying madonna has no lyrical ability or that she has no talent. i'm saying her deeper stuff came afteer 30 and closer to 40. britney is, what, 22 or 23? if she is nurtured the way sire nurtured madonna, she wll evolve also.

VoicesCarry said:

i'm a horrible debater and it's even worse when i'm trying to prove a point and typing too fast. but y'all know where i'm going with this...i'm so sick of people saying britney is the next madonna. if you look at the whole and NOT the sum of the parts, they are nothing alike!
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 18:20:33 2004 by purplegypsy]

SassyBritches said:

Prince did NOT write LAP. Are you kidding me? And please, I'm not even sure Britney is able to construct a basic sentence, let alone write a song. Bitch has the intelligence of a doorknob.
Saying she'll "improve with time" is basically like saying Paris Hilton is going to suddenly blossom into an intellectual dynamo.

As far as the LAP video goes, I'm pretty sure the video concept WAS Madonna's idea. She was always firmly in control of her image, and the whole point of it was to PUSH PEOPLE'S BUTTONS when she released that first single. It is a calculated exercise in exploitation that is extremely TYPICAL of Madonna, and one which does not strike me as Mary Lambert's doing.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 18:26:24 2004 by VoicesCarry]

purplegypsy said:

i would never say ANYONE in the next ANYBODY. there is never going to be another madonna just like there will never be another prince or michael jackson. but time moves on and so do pop stars. i'm just being objective here. i'm sorry i don't ride madonna's tit. she has good. she has bad. it took her quite a while to get REALLY good, as far as i'm concerned. when i was young i loved madonna. i thought she could do no wrong. i didn't like true blue and STILL i loved madonna. it was the image and pushing of the envelope that i loved. once you take that away she really doesn't have much to offer. you've said it yourself. you don't like anything she's done recently. why do you think that is? maybe you outgrew her or maybe she just doesn't have controversy surroundin her to give her that push. i actually liked american life...much, much more than music. but when i listen to in the zone, it does the same thing for me that those early madonna records did. they are fun pop music. nothing more, nothing less.

SassyBritches said:

To each his own, and I respect your opinion, but I can't see how In The Zone compares with any early Madonna album. I certainly don't get that "thrill" when I listen to a Britney record. But then, I think pop music is in a sad, sorry state these days. In The Zone sounds to me like a bad pastiche of producers and songwriters who are slumming it for Britney (what was Moby doing there? why did "Outrageous" sound like Paris Hilton's theme song? why does Breathe On Me sound like Kylie Minogue ca. Light Years?). "Toxic" is the only song I can really get into, and that's probably because Cathy Dennis is largely responsible, and she's an artist I really liked, and one of the few writers who I think has a deft command of the pop hook these days.

Overall what I think Britney lacks is joy. She sounds so ultra-processed that there's no fire or romance in the music. Her little-girl voice gets lost in the soundscapes her producers try to fashion for her and she just winds up sounding clumsy and inexperienced. Her technique defines lackluster. At the very least, she doesn't have personality, which is incredibly important for a good pop star.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 18:38:59 2004 by VoicesCarry]

SassyBritches said

of course times move on and most artists over the decades across musical genres have evolved-even in pop music. but there's an exception...i must say Britney has done NOTHING that breaks into a new "generation" of pop music. I could say the same about j. lo, x-tina, jessica, justin t., etc. but britney is the epitomy of it all...

VoicesCarry said:

madonna has street smarts which is why she is a good marketer. she has 30 bucks to her name in nyc and she fucking struggled...and sold her coochie (not literally, so relax, lol)...to get by. britney hasn't had that. you can't compare. you've got to et the girl experience life and grow and mature. its ridiculous to hold her up to madonna at 30. completely different lifestyles. and the music industry was much different then. back then they looked for something fresh. today they look for hits, instant hits. britney didn't have to go to some guy's hospital room and convince him to give her a deal. of course she isn't going to have the urgency that madonna had. few will.

as for britney's album sounding like the first two...um, no. i did not like britney's first two cds. i like i'm a slave 4 u. that was it. this current cd is great! it is fun, its current...that's all i need.

and, yes, it is quite possible that prince aided in like a prayer. he was forever ghostwriting and since when does p work with someone and not fuck around with the writing? just because she's madonna doesn't make prince any different. like a prayer (the song) has a very lovesexy kind of feel to it. you think that's a coincidence?

SassyBritches said:

No, I don't believe he had a hand in writing LAP, other than his contribution to "Love Song". He and Madonna disliked each other intensely. Superstar combos tend to work out like that. I don't sense his writing style (or his level of depth) in any of the songs. These are simple, direct, honest, beautiful songs. They are not Prince. They don't aspire to be metaphorical or symbolic and they don't possess Prince's razor-sharp insight. Why does "Love Song" stick out like a sore thumb on the record? Because Prince produced it and cowrote it, and it sounds so at odds with the rest of the album that it's almost laughable. Evidently you see something that I (and many other people) don't. But I think that LAP is (musically and lyrically) much much much more typical of what came after for Madonna. In Madonna, you see an artistic progression that is of her own doing. The songs on LAP come from the heart.

But now you're going to tell me he wrote all her subsequent records and that she's never written a song in her life, lol
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 18:51:20 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

so you don't think that is prince's backward guitar on act of contrition...you don't think that's his style of production? i mean, i know it says 'produced by the powers that be'...which is practically a direct rip off from larry graham's album on which he claims the record is 'produced by God'. did you ever think that they don't get along because she stole some of his live show for blonde ambition? eh hem...the whole bed/masturbation scene...very livesexy. in the end, who knows. but it would not surprise me to find out he was more involved than they ever let on.

SassyBritches said:

I must respectfully disagree, so we'll leave it at that .

VoicesCarry said:

ok.

i do enjoy our little debates!

Sorry Sassy but its a little bit stupid to compare britney to madonna....very stupid indeed...
britney is JUST an entertainer

it is interesting how britney/madonna always gets like this.

LightOfArt said:

what's even more stupid is thinking i was comparing them. my comparison was in regard to them both being entertainers. is that not what they are? the only thing i said...the statement that started all of this...was that just as madonna evolved, it is possible britney will also. of course that then sets forth the whole argument of "how can you say that..." which is so tired. the bottom line is i think they are both pop stars. entertainers. period.

LightOfArt said:

Britney is just an entertainer,and a bad one at that.She's just a lame Madonna/Janet wannebee with no real talent to speak of.And Sassy,shame on you for sitting up here defending her! There is nothing deep or profound about her music and you know it! It's just disposable pop crap.

SassyBritches said:

LOL....that's like saying Prince copied Madonna when...


***In 1989,Madonna does a song with a black choir ( "Like A Prayer".)
***In 1990,Prince does a song with a black choir ("Still Would Stand All Time")


Or...

***In 1990,Madonna releases a racy video ("Justify My Love") that is banned everywhere
***In 1992,Prince releases a racy video ("Sexy MF") that is banned everywhere


see how absurd this is? It could be argued that they were both "influenced" by each other at various points in their careers.But to accuse Madonna of ripping off Prince...that's just ridiculous.

I herad Britney is playbacking her whole show...not surprising.....COZ she sucks!!

Im not really into the whole LIPSYNCH-A-THON thing!

DavidEye said:

Exactly. Prince isn't the first or last person to ever use backwards guitar on a song.
[This message was edited Thu Apr 29 9:31:27 2004 by VinaBlue]