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Thread started 04/21/04 11:20am

Luv4oneanotha

MJ Accusers Shaky Testimony

The following incredible article comes from Roger Friedman of Fox News:

"The grand jury testimony of the 14-year-old boy accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation was not a success, I am told.

Much was made recently of the boy's appearance before a grand jury convened by District Attorney Tom Sneddon in Santa Barbara. As was the case 10 years ago, Sneddon's case against Jackson depends on the grand jury believing the veracity of a teenager. But two grand juries in 1994, you may recall, did not conclude that Jackson had molested anyone.

Now I hear from sources involved with the case that the 14-year-old, who testified recently, did not make a good witness. In fact, I'm told that his own lawyer cut off the questioning when he saw things were getting rough.

This comes at a time when, I am told, the boy's mother -- who in 1998, according to statements made by her ex-husband in court papers, spent time in a mental hospital -- is again having similar problems. "She was hospitalized again," a source tells me.

So far the grand jury in the Jackson case has heard from several observers, but it has not been able to question a number of key people Sneddon hoped to bring in. They include the three Jackson employees -- Frank Tyson, Vinnie Amen and Marc Schaffel -- who actually dealt with the boy, his mother and her other children. Sneddon had also sent warnings out that he wanted to bring in the now 23-year-old man from the decade-old case. But that never came to fruition, either.

If the testimony of the current accuser was indeed as "shaky" as it was described to me, it will be interesting to see where the case goes next. If the grand jury does not hand down an indictment, the lack of a case would abrogate any chance the family had for a civil suit or cash settlement, as in the 1994 case.

Meanwhile, Dr. Carole Lieberman -- the Beverly Hills psychiatrist who filed a complaint against Jackson after his baby-dangling incident in early November 2002 -- says she wonders if Sneddon has a case at all.

Lieberman has a history of sorts concerning Jackson. She told me last week that she was the psychiatric consultant years ago on Randy Taraborelli's unauthorized biography of Jackson, which was published in 1991. A dozen years later it was she who called Child Protective Services when she saw Jackson dangling his youngest child, baby "Blanket," from a German hotel window. She wrote again to Child Protective Services on Feb. 11, 2003, a week after Jackson was seen on the TV special "Living with Michael Jackson" holding hands with the boy who would later accuse him of child molestation.

"He's not fit to be a parent," Lieberman observed in our conversation. She would not confirm, as my sources insist, that she is partnered in her endeavors to have Jackson's kids removed from him with zealous attorney Gloria Allred. Both Lieberman and Allred turn up constantly on TV to comment on Jackson.

But Lieberman, for all her criticisms of Jackson and assertions that he's guilty, told me, "The dates in the case will be its downfall." Like this reporter, Lieberman questions the viability of the window of opportunity in which Sneddon claims Jackson abused his accuser -- Feb. 7 to March 10, 2003. This was right after the TV special aired and the world condemned Jackson for his closeness to the child. However, the child had been in Jackson's presence many times for nearly a year prior to the special's broadcast, and there is no allegation of impropriety then.

"I told Tom Sneddon, things don't add up," Lieberman said. "There's some kind of disingenuousness about the way he's handling the case, some of kind of ambivalence."

wasn't gon post this but what the hell u guys love talkin but MJ lol
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Reply #1 posted 04/21/04 11:36am

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Luv4oneanotha said:



But Lieberman, for all her criticisms of Jackson and assertions that he's guilty, told me, "The dates in the case will be its downfall." Like this reporter, Lieberman questions the viability of the window of opportunity in which Sneddon claims Jackson abused his accuser -- Feb. 7 to March 10, 2003. This was right after the TV special aired and the world condemned Jackson for his closeness to the child. However, the child had been in Jackson's presence many times for nearly a year prior to the special's broadcast, and there is no allegation of impropriety then.



Bingo.
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Reply #2 posted 04/21/04 1:28pm

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Marrk said:

Luv4oneanotha said:



But Lieberman, for all her criticisms of Jackson and assertions that he's guilty, told me, "The dates in the case will be its downfall." Like this reporter, Lieberman questions the viability of the window of opportunity in which Sneddon claims Jackson abused his accuser -- Feb. 7 to March 10, 2003. This was right after the TV special aired and the world condemned Jackson for his closeness to the child. However, the child had been in Jackson's presence many times for nearly a year prior to the special's broadcast, and there is no allegation of impropriety then.



Bingo.

yup unless voices would care to Retort?
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Reply #3 posted 04/21/04 1:37pm

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scam artists?
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Reply #4 posted 04/21/04 1:43pm

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ufoclub said:

scam artists?

Look at it this way man
this was not the first "Scam they Pulled
in 98 they Scammed J.C. Penny for quite a tighty Sum...
the kid will basically do whatever the mother says...
this Case is pretty much crap cause Last year
the very same kid Cried Because when he went to school his peers were taunting him saying he was having sex with MJ, and kept saying its not true...
this case is crap... Come,on
im not righting off his claims but
its highly unlikely
but we'll see what the courts have to say
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Reply #5 posted 04/21/04 1:47pm

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Luv4oneanotha said:

ufoclub said:

scam artists?

Look at it this way man
this was not the first "Scam they Pulled
in 98 they Scammed J.C. Penny for quite a tighty Sum...
the kid will basically do whatever the mother says...
this Case is pretty much crap cause Last year
the very same kid Cried Because when he went to school his peers were taunting him saying he was having sex with MJ, and kept saying its not true...
this case is crap... Come,on
im not righting off his claims but
its highly unlikely
but we'll see what the courts have to say


Lol, well, I can't blame the kid considering that he has no other option than to do what the parents wish. But I don't see him denying sexual relations with MJ while being teased and taunted by his peers as a definite admission that he lied in the affadavit. To be fair, might he have said that simply so they'd shut up and leave him alone? I know I would have.
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Reply #6 posted 04/21/04 1:53pm

Luv4oneanotha

VoicesCarry said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


Look at it this way man
this was not the first "Scam they Pulled
in 98 they Scammed J.C. Penny for quite a tighty Sum...
the kid will basically do whatever the mother says...
this Case is pretty much crap cause Last year
the very same kid Cried Because when he went to school his peers were taunting him saying he was having sex with MJ, and kept saying its not true...
this case is crap... Come,on
im not righting off his claims but
its highly unlikely
but we'll see what the courts have to say


Lol, well, I can't blame the kid considering that he has no other option than to do what the parents wish. But I don't see him denying sexual relations with MJ while being teased and taunted by his peers as a definite admission that he lied in the affadavit. To be fair, might he have said that simply so they'd shut up and leave him alone? I know I would have.

nah he said its not true to his father pardon if i wasn't elaborate
he cried and ran away to his dad
this was around begginning of march
the Problem the D.A. has the kid has denied the Claims Multiple times
plus the dates he's shootin for are really unplausable
the dates the D.A. MJ was already under investigation by social services
i doubt that he would do thatt while he's being investigated
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Reply #7 posted 04/22/04 2:04am

Cloudbuster

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Luv4oneanotha said:

i doubt that he would do thatt while he's being investigated


I doubt he would do it at all.
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