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Printableadoreme said: Luv4oneanotha said: 2 words Affirmative Action  One word. Bullshit. heres a vocab association game Manipulation interrogation allegation humiliation incarceration all acts toward an innocent black man thus i say Affirmative action! | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: adoreme said: One word. Bullshit. heres a vocab association game Manipulation interrogation allegation humiliation incarceration all acts toward an innocent black man thus i say Affirmative action! Out of curiosity, to whom are you referring? OJ or MJ? I'm sorry, but I don't think race had anything to do with either case. I think they are both celebs, and that fuels the fire for these authorities (regardless of their guilt or innocence). Now, I'm not disagreeing with you that a whole lot of BS occurs in our legal system, specifically when it comes to blacks. I just don't think that it really plays into these particular cases. In the words of Chris Rock, "race had nothing to do with it. That shit was about fame. If OJ hadn't been famous, he wouldn'ta even been OJ. He woulda been Orenthal the bus-drivin' murderer". 
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LightOfArt said: TurnItUp said: Don't be getting mad at nobody. You wanna flip somebody, flip your pedophile idol. He shouldn't have got himself into this bullshit. You done paid one family $15-20 million to go away 10 years ago and for what just to end up in the same shit 10 years later. That's his fuckin fault. He should've let the little boys alone the first time. Now his ass is in trouble. Stupid ass.  1) Is it any of your bussiness? 2) How do you know he did it for sure? 3) Get a fucking life 1) I'm makin it my business and learn how to spell 2) Even if he didn't do it he's guilty of putting himself in situations that make him look guilty. 3. I don't feel like getting a life. I feel like pickin on folks like you. MJ is in the wrong bottom line. If he goes to jail he needs to.  | |
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JediMaster said: Luv4oneanotha said: heres a vocab association game Manipulation interrogation allegation humiliation incarceration all acts toward an innocent black man thus i say Affirmative action! Out of curiosity, to whom are you referring? OJ or MJ? I'm sorry, but I don't think race had anything to do with either case. I think they are both celebs, and that fuels the fire for these authorities (regardless of their guilt or innocence). Now, I'm not disagreeing with you that a whole lot of BS occurs in our legal system, specifically when it comes to blacks. I just don't think that it really plays into these particular cases. In the words of Chris Rock, "race had nothing to do with it. That shit was about fame. If OJ hadn't been famous, he wouldn'ta even been OJ. He woulda been Orenthal the bus-drivin' murderer". I meant it in general of course its about fame but its also about race if OJ was Famous and WHITE, C'mon Buddy do you think they would of been that aggressive? no cause its that good to be white If MJ was white you think the judge would of dismissed 4 motions against the D.A.'s Discovery Litterally! Breakin 4 civilrights of Mj No now im not saying the judicial system is bad but if you can't see that their gender bias then your livin in a fawkin box Do you know how much Prisons make In revenues? its a multimilliondollar BUSINESS! and they need to keep those prisons fool the goverment doesn't wanna get rid of crime they're making too much money off of it tthey don't care about them! especially if there minority They ignored the Extortion Allegations MJ made and made a pitiful investigation in2 it when there was an ABUNDUNCE OF EVIDENCE pulling toward extortion you can't tell me they weren't out to get him THEY FAWKED UP the Whole OJ CASE cause they wanted to get his azz with just a damn bloody glove and wittnesses | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: mmm u must be white...
moving on adoreme said: Assuming that people have an opinion because of their skin colour is basically racism. My eyes are wide open.
I agree with adoreme, Luv4oneanotha. Your comment is racist and uncalled for. I would think that someone who clearly has strong feelings on racism such as yourself wouldn't be so quick to make sweeping, racist statements. It's quite possible that adoreme thinks that your opinion that OJ is innocent is preposterous because he/she paid attention to the facts of the case and how OJ's behavior towards Nicole was described by basically everybody...and OJ's behavior since hasn't exactly been that of a grieving ex-husband. His children lost their mother and he couldn't have cared less. Something's rotten in Denmark, right there. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to talk to you about this, Luv, because a couple posts after the one above, you were "explaining" your feelings on black versus white and you said: now im not saying the judicial system is bad
but if you can't see that their gender bias then your livin in a fawkin box Now that's fucking hilarious, saying "gender bias" when you're actually talking about racial issues. Clearly you're quite well-versed in the things of which you speak!  No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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Luv4oneanotha said: VoicesCarry said: There is no such thing as an unbiased jury in this case, but it's MJ's own fault for that. Doing TV specials where you detail your peccadillos and discuss your bedtime privileges with young children does not help your cause. He should have been smarter. Oh i hear u im not like the other Mj fans that try to sanctify everything the man does he was a damn moron, but he was honest and that will be held against him in a court of law but this guy is sheilded from reality dude needs a reality check, i hope this trial will do it or else its just gonna happen again He needs to start acting like an adult I was on the fence as to his guilt, but recently I saw a documentary on t.v about the first case. Do you remember when it was requested that Micheal submit himself for a personal examination of his private parts? The boy concerned had stated that he had seen them, according to police evidence the boy was right. It was at this point that Michael decided on an out of court settlement... this doesn't mean the man is guilty, but how do you explain it?  What is he doing parading around nude in front of a kid? most odd isn't it?
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Lleena said: Luv4oneanotha said: Oh i hear u im not like the other Mj fans that try to sanctify everything the man does he was a damn moron, but he was honest and that will be held against him in a court of law but this guy is sheilded from reality dude needs a reality check, i hope this trial will do it or else its just gonna happen again He needs to start acting like an adult I was on the fence as to his guilt, but recently I saw a documentary on t.v about the first case. Do you remember when it was requested that Micheal submit himself for a personal examination of his private parts? The boy concerned had stated that he had seen them, according to police evidence the boy was right. It was at this point that Michael decided on an out of court settlement... this doesn't mean the man is guilty, but how do you explain it? What is he doing parading around nude in front of a kid? most odd isn't it?
... [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 6:16:27 2004 by Lleena] That's bullshit. There were reports that it was not a match not long after the pictures were taken. Over the years talking heads and people like Jim Thomas have been going around saying it was a match. If it had matched, the grand jury would have sent the case to trial. | |
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WildStyle said: Lleena said: I was on the fence as to his guilt, but recently I saw a documentary on t.v about the first case. Do you remember when it was requested that Micheal submit himself for a personal examination of his private parts? The boy concerned had stated that he had seen them, according to police evidence the boy was right. It was at this point that Michael decided on an out of court settlement... this doesn't mean the man is guilty, but how do you explain it? What is he doing parading around nude in front of a kid? most odd isn't it?
... [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 6:16:27 2004 by Lleena] That's bullshit. There were reports that it was not a match not long after the pictures were taken. Over the years talking heads and people like Jim Thomas have been going around saying it was a match. If it had matched, the grand jury would have sent the case to trial. According to this programme it's not bullshit, but then I just stated what the programme broadcast, but i will say one thing, if a grand jury finds him guilty, are you going to say it was a miscarriage of justice? | |
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Jordie Chandler said that Michael was circumcised but after the strip search it turned out that he wasn't. However, Jordie had seen MJ without his trousers on as he accurately described the discoloration on his legs. | |
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Well, the program has it wrong.
If he is found guilty at the trial, and if everything I know about the case is true, then hell yes it would be a miscarrige of justice. I think we will all know once all the evidence from both sides comes out in court. I just hope it is televised because I don't trust the media to tell the world the truth about what happened in the court room. | |
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WildStyle said: I just hope it is televised because I don't trust the media to tell the world the truth about what happened in the court room.
Me neither. | |
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WildStyle said: Well, the program has it wrong.
If he is found guilty at the trial, and if everything I know about the case is true, then hell yes it would be a miscarrige of justice. So no matter what, the man is innocent in your eyes. are you privy to information that could be used in court? I think we will all know once all the evidence from both sides comes out in court. I just hope it is televised because I don't trust the media to tell the world the truth about what happened in the court room.
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btw, WildStyle, I know that as a fan of Jacskon you have strong feelings about this, please dont view my comments as an attack on you or Michael, but more as a statement regarding the nature of the allegations, regardless of who is involved. I think that being a famous star shouldn't allow you immunity from the law of the land.
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So no matter what, the man is innocent in your eyes.
No. If there was some really convincing evidence I would reconsider. Right now I have no reason to believe that he would do something like that. Are you privy to information that could be used in court?
No. I only know as much as any other MJ fan who has followed this case maticulously. I'm talking about every article and every TV discussion. A lot of people don't realise how closely us MJ fans are following this case. They think we just have blind faith and that is just not true. btw, WildStyle, I know that as a fan of Jacskon you have strong feelings about this, please dont view my comments as an attack on you or Michael, but more as a statement regarding the nature of the allegations, regardless of who is involved. I think that being a famous star shouldn't allow you immunity from the law of the land.
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the Programme is bull shyt , how do i know?
Simple A SettleMent Does Not Sto or close a Case its just an Agreement between Defence and "victims" If The Description Of Michaels Alleged "Penis" Was Accurate Thats Called "Primary Evidence" therefore The Investigation Moves From Discovery to Charges Mj Never was Charged for the first allegations not because he settled Because the i nvestigation went nowhere If the Penis Descrpition was true They Can go about the case WITHOUT the accuser PResent Simply Put The Settlement did not stop THE INVESTIGATION It was STILL GOING through 3 monthes afterwards the Feds Gave Up Because they Had no Evidence and Now a Wittness that didn't Cooperate because they got there money if they had a penis description that was correct they can force the proceedings to go through But the Penis Description was Incorrect so they had Nothing why did Michael Settle Simple Michaels Lawyers Filed 4 Motions Against the Discover Motion From the D.A. I'll Name them first Motion for trial preference Feldman hit jacksons lawyer with this blow motion this is a special request to have the trial heard within 120 days after the motion is granted (4 monthes) this Motion as Granted to them at the hearing Jacksons lawyers reorted that it violated the defences civil rights for a motion to discovery(gather evidence) basically the period of time was too short to gather a formidable Defence against the Prosecution this Motion was granted to the Prosecution and Denied to the defence second motion Motion to Compel jacksons desposition jacksons lawyers stated that this impaired michael jacksons constituitional rights until his treatment for drug dependecny was complete he then said that a desposition should be made until Jackson was well and the criminal investigation was finish the prosecution was in a hurry to go to trial Motion to compe jackson was Granted for the prosecution Even though it was UNconstituional! Motion against despotion was denied without prejudice against Jackson Last Motion Request to stay ruling Denied Michael Jackson lost all four motions Obviously the Wings of justice was not pointing in jacksons favor was weighing in on the 13 yr old boy Then Johnn Cochran Joined the Jackson Team filed a motion of right to privacy - Denied Moton for protective order in favor of the child in the end jackson had 4 monthes to gather wittnesses gather evidence of extortion or in his mind he was going to jail Mr Cochran then urged Jackson to Settle 2 of jacksons Lawyers and Private Investigator Tried to Persway Jackson that "he should not give in to extortionist" they had the evidence jus not enough time to create a formiddable case and not enough wittnesses Fields(jacksons lawyer) said they needed at least 7 monthes to create a case and he wanted to file an apeal to the motion of trial preference But cochran said that he could go back into the studio and itw ill be al over the trial can't be forced unless the Criminal Investigation came up with evidence Which they did not then a Meeting was formed 2 of Jacksons lawyers and the Private investigator Resigned Claiming they wanted no part in the settlement but today they still come froward to jacksons innocence The Prosecution Put 25 Million dollars on the table at the meeting Jackson Complied and said only if 18 million was put in the childs trust fund after the meeting the child didn't cooperate with the feds Sneddon Had no evidence and now no accuser so he had to give up the case but the case Remained open for 8 years just incase another child would come against jackson no child did Now u tell me if yu were in his shoes and all u wanted was to get back into the studio and work on your upcomming album would u settle? after 4 motion were denied after 2 Privacy motions were denied U had to go trial within 4 monthes which wasnt enough time to form a case against the defence would u settle? the D.A. Had no evidence so the only thing to make this thing go away was 20 million? hell i would why isnt jackson Settleing now? He's been preparing for this trial since march of last year... I KNOW MY SHYT! [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 14:34:56 2004 by Luv4oneanotha] | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: the Programme is bull shyt , how do i know?
Simple A SettleMent Does Not Sto or close a Case its just an Agreement between Defence and "victims" If The Description Of Michaels Alleged "Penis" Was Accurate Thats Called "Primary Evidence" therefore The Investigation Moves From Discovery to Charges Mj Never was Charged for the first allegations not because he settled Because the i nvestigation went nowhere If the Penis Descrpition was true They Can go about the case WITHOUT the accuser PResent Simply Put The Settlement did not stop THE INVESTIGATION It was STILL GOING through 3 monthes afterwards the Feds Gave Up Because they Had no Evidence and Now a Wittness that didn't Cooperate because they got there money if they had a penis description that was correct they can force the proceedings to go through But the Penis Description was Incorrect so they had Nothing why did Michael Settle Simple Michaels Lawyers Filed 4 Motions Against the Discover Motion From the D.A. I'll Name them first Motion for trial preference Feldman hit jacksons lawyer with this blow motion this is a special request to have the trial heard within 120 days after the motion is granted (4 monthes) this Motion as Granted to them at the hearing Jacksons lawyers reorted that it violated the defences civil rights for a motion to discovery(gather evidence) basically the period of time was too short to gather a formidable Defence against the Prosecution this Motion was granted to the Prosecution and Denied to the defence second motion Motion to Compel jacksons desposition jacksons lawyers stated that this impaired michael jacksons constituitional rights until his treatment for drug dependecny was complete he then said that a desposition should be made until Jackson was well and the criminal investigation was finish the prosecution was in a hurry to go to trial Motion to compe jackson was Granted for the prosecution Even though it was UNconstituional! Motion against despotion was denied without prejudice against Jackson Last Motion Request to stay ruling Denied Michael Jackson lost all four motions Obviously the Wings of justice was not pointing in jacksons favor was weighing in on the 13 yr old boy Then Johnn Cochran Joined the Jackson Team filed a motion of right to privacy - Denied Moton for protective order in favor of the child in the end jackson had 4 monthes to gather wittnesses gather evidence of extortion or in his mind he was going to jail Mr Cochran then urged Jackson to Settle 2 of jacksons Lawyers and Private Investigator Tried to Persway Jackson that "he should not give in to extortionist" they had the evidence jus not enough time to create a formiddable case and not enough wittnesses Fields(jacksons lawyer) said they needed at least 7 monthes to create a case and he wanted to file an apeal to the motion of trial preference But cochran said that he could go back into the studio and itw ill be al over the trial can't be forced unless the Criminal Investigation came up with evidence Which they did not then a Meeting was formed 2 of Jacksons lawyers and the Private investigator Resigned Claiming they wanted no part in the settlement but today they still come froward to jacksons innocence The Prosecution Put 25 Million dollars on the table at the meeting Jackson Complied and said only if 18 million was put in the childs trust fund after the meeting the child didn't cooperate with the feds Sneddon Had no evidence and now no accuser so he had to give up the case but the case Remained open for 8 years just incase another child would come against jackson no child did Now u tell me if yu were in his shoes and all u wanted was to get back into the studio and work on your upcomming album would u settle? after 4 motion were denied after 2 Privacy motions were denied U had to go trial within 4 monthes which wasnt enough time to form a case against the defence would u settle? the D.A. Had no evidence so the only thing to make this thing go away was 20 million? hell i would why isnt jackson Settleing now? He's been preparing for this trial since march of last year... [color=darkred:ad0fc21d7a]I KNOW MY SHYT![/color] [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 14:34:56 2004 by Luv4oneanotha] what What No rebuttles?  
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Hey, I know this shit is true. I read about it. | |
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Well, that's assuming that the legal secretary was telling the truth.  | |
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Cloudbuster said: Well, that's assuming that the legal secretary was telling the truth.
highly unlikely lol aint no money in that lol her book aint even sellin lol which is pretty sad but ahh well least i can embarrass dumb muthafawkin fam lol | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: but ahh well least i can embarrass dumb muthafawkin fam
lol | |
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STATEMENT OF MICHAEL JACKSON
"As I release this statement, there are helicopters hovering above my residence, reporters staking out, and photographers lurking behind bushes, running rampant around my compound. “I am respectfully requesting that media organizations please respect my privacy, and that of my children. “I would greatly appreciate your cooperation. “Thank you.” Source: Raymone Bain -florida is it really damn serious? people actin ike hes hidin Jimmy Hoffas Body | |
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COME ON SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHINGGGGG
VOICES GIVE ME SOMETHIN! SOMEBODY LOL u know im right because is been the whole day and nobody yet has said shyt lol put that in your crack pipe and smoke it so uh.... 
You guys want some grapes . . . . BYTCHES [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 21:18:22 2004 by Luv4oneanotha] | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: minneapolisgenius said: 
Yeah, sure..... mmm u must be white... moving on And you must know shit about me.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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LUV4ONEANOTHA
Out of curiosity, where did you learn to write like that? And please don't say law school. M.2.K
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papaa said: LUV4ONEANOTHA
Out of curiosity, where did you learn to write like that? And please don't say law school. Lol, I know, he keeps saying he's a legal secretary or something like that. I don't think so, with all due respect. [This message was edited Sun Apr 25 10:29:33 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: Lol, I know, he keeps saying he's a legal secretary or something like that. I don't think so, with all do respect.
That should be "with all due respect".
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Damn your edits. You stole my thunder.  | |
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Cloudbuster said: Damn your edits. You stole my thunder.
Yeah, it was just a typo. I'm not that big a moron, lol . Though I know you have your opinion on that issue  .[This message was edited Sun Apr 25 10:48:12 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: Cloudbuster said: Damn your edits. You stole my thunder.
Yeah, it was just a typo. I'm not that big a moron, lol . Though I know you have your opinion on that issue . I've nothing against you. Just 'cos we don't often agree on stuff doesn't mean that I think you're a moron. | |
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