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Printablei mean if tony would of rapped a "Your just Porcelain King Reigning a dark kingdom
just a simpleton, i'll pop you like a pimple son"(id like to mention that tony was like the weakest rapper) then maybe i'll get what yur sayin but they didn'ts ay that that whole verse can be regarded in anyway lol | |
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I thought that Prince refused to duet on "Bad" because he said the song couldn't be any better? | |
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VoicesCarry said: I thought that Prince refused to duet on "Bad" because he said the song couldn't be any better?
he said that TO MJ to be nice and polite, but he didn't want nothin to do with bad as he clearly stated "the reason why it was called bad was because Pathetic didn't fit on the cover" Mind you P was still on his Sign O the times High Horse but lately P had nothin but good things to say about MJ he probably was a little jealous cause who wants to be second but i think hes over that to Me Prince is Better then MJ music Wise anywayz MJ is lost in his own stardom and needs to start workin | |
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riverdean7 said: cause hes hatin on mj and since this is a prince website so i decided to bring up prince
and princes decline has been much more evident to me than michaels so if your gonna say mjs on a decline or tired as he put it please compare his decline to prince so it balances everything out and puts everything intp prospective grow up.....Prince definitely is on top of his game, in every ASPECT of his life. u & me, we got mad chemisty | |
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That would be VERY cool if the Bad was a duet! I mean it would be the most popular duet of all time....I can not imagine how great it would be  | |
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martinelli first off the whole article wasnt about billie jean just a part of it was and anyway everything he says about it is correct
billie jean is probably his most popular and best song hence the reason he mentioned it that dont mean though thats his only great song as u imply what do u want him to do list all the songs he thinks are great gimme a break preciosa863 prince on top of his game huh u mean since hes become a religious nut u know michael was a jehovahs witness for years before he left the religion i wonder if prince has spoken to michael about his experiences with the religion i doubt it though about the bad duet quincy said from his own lips on the thriller special edition cd that when quincy asked him to be on bad princes reply was u dont need me on this it will be a hit without me just in case your wondering i actually have all of princes cds up until rave since rave ive got a computer and have just downloaded his recent albums will probably get musicology at the shops but here in new zealand its not excatly on the shelf next to nsync and britney so will prolly have to get it imported i actually like the song musicology to a nice jazzy number | |
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It's funny that people continually have to compare Prince to MJ. They really don't have that much in common other than 80's popularity. Those that compare them musically or as people seem to be missing a lot of Prince's top tier work. MJ's best work doesn't have nearly the depth nor range of Prince's. That's a fact.
The fact that Prince is an artist at heart has allowed him to work out his demons through his music. MJ doesn't live and breathe music in the same way and that's why his output is less and why his demons SEEM to be playing out in his everyday life rather than his musical expression. |
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firstly michael could of released a album every year if he wished cause he records over 40 50 tracks for each album but michaels more of a perfectionist then prince so it takes him longer to get the very best songs on the albums when u look at prince albums half of them seem to contain filler unlike michaels albums
u say mjs best work dont have the depth and range of princes well in what context do u mean and im sorry your statement about michael not living and breathing the music is utter crap cause as i said earlier his output could be the same as princes if he released most of what he records and i say alot of his demons actually come out in his songs which is what any great artist does | |
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MJ's best work doesn't have nearly the depth nor range of Prince's. That's a fact.
Yeah right. The fact that Prince is an artist at heart has allowed him to work out his demons through his music. MJ doesn't live and breathe music in the same way and that's why his output is less and why his demons SEEM to be playing out in his everyday life rather than his musical expression.
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riverdean7 said: firstly michael could of released a album every year if he wished cause he records over 40 50 tracks for each album but michaels more of a perfectionist then prince so it takes him longer to get the very best songs on the albums when u look at prince albums half of them seem to contain filler unlike michaels albums
u say mjs best work dont have the depth and range of princes well in what context do u mean and im sorry your statement about michael not living and breathing the music is utter crap cause as i said earlier his output could be the same as princes if he released most of what he records and i say alot of his demons actually come out in his songs which is what any great artist does Oh really? So WTF was Invincible, then? | |
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VoicesCarry said: riverdean7 said: firstly michael could of released a album every year if he wished cause he records over 40 50 tracks for each album but michaels more of a perfectionist then prince so it takes him longer to get the very best songs on the albums when u look at prince albums half of them seem to contain filler unlike michaels albums
u say mjs best work dont have the depth and range of princes well in what context do u mean and im sorry your statement about michael not living and breathing the music is utter crap cause as i said earlier his output could be the same as princes if he released most of what he records and i say alot of his demons actually come out in his songs which is what any great artist does Oh really? So WTF was Invincible, then? A Disaster created by tommy matollla he picked out the original setlist | |
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VoicesCarry said: Oh really? So WTF was Invincible, then?
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Whether MJ's a perfectionist or not, I hear plenty of filler on the last two albums!  | |
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nothings wrong with invincible if it was princes album it will be probably one of his best selling albums ever numbers are sketchy but as of a year ago i read it sold 10 million albums this with virtually no promotion no tour only 2 videos only 1 in which he appeared and mj had huge ideas for other videos 1 being threatened but everything fell apart with the situation with sony and tommy mottola and so invincible was basically shelved | |
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riverdean7 said: nothings wrong with invincible if it was princes album it will be probably one of his best selling albums ever numbers are sketchy but as of a year ago i read it sold 10 million albums this with virtually no promotion no tour only 2 videos only 1 in which he appeared and mj had huge ideas for other videos 1 being threatened but everything fell apart with the situation with sony and tommy mottola and so invincible was basically shelved
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For god's sake, nobody is perfect. If being perfectionist meant all the songs were great...but it doesn't. And about Invincible, it just wasn't as successfull as the other MJ albums...Prince has had bad albums also. Actually, I think most of the Prince's albums are crappy...but then agaun, he releases so much material...he has a few great albums and many albums with a couple of good songs but the rest is... | |
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Hobzie said: For god's sake, nobody is perfect. If being perfectionist meant all the songs were great...but it doesn't. And about Invincible, it just wasn't as successfull as the other MJ albums...Prince has had bad albums also. Actually, I think most of the Prince's albums are crappy...but then agaun, he releases so much material...he has a few great albums and many albums with a couple of good songs but the rest is...
Which is OBVIOUSLY why you're on Prince.org!  | |
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LightOfArt said: Brotha you definately havent seen HIStory World Tour or 30th Ann. Concerts
 I felt so bad for Michael at the 30th Anniversary Concert...it was the first time I noticed that he has a gut now, and he still can't find a pair of pants that fits him...aside from everything else, his style has degraded to the point that he almost looks like a homeless person. I'm sure that'll upset some people on here, but it's honestly what I think...and lemme tell ya, when i was 8 an 1983 (that is when thriller came out, right?) my closet was covered with Michael Jackson stickers that I bought out of a gumball machine and I had a Michael Jackson scrapbook and I wrote and illustrated a short story for school in which I went to a Michael Jackson concert where his hair caught on fire, but luckily someone in the front row had a bucket of water to put it out, and the concert continued. I still have that thing...the picture is hilarious, a sort of stick figure michael with his shoes pointed so that he's standing on his toes and his hair is aflame and there are multiple dialogue bubbles that I drew around his head, saying things like "HEE hee!" and "HOO!" Anyway, my point was to say that I don't have any ill will towards the man and I understand his genius...but I jumped off of the album train after Dangerous. I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Dangerous, but the new songs on the HIStory album were just paranoid and sterile. In my opinion. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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riverdean7 said: cause hes hatin on mj and since this is a prince website so i decided to bring up prince
and princes decline has been much more evident to me than michaels so if your gonna say mjs on a decline or tired as he put it please compare his decline to prince so it balances everything out and puts everything intp prospective JESUS, DOES ANYONE ELSE MISS THE DAYS BEFORE THE MOLESTATION CHARGES BROUGHT ALL OF THESE MJ APOLOGISTS OUT OF THE WOODWORK? Sorry, I'll keep my voice down, but reading shit like the above is maddening!! Yeah, Prince's career is surely the one you should be worried about right now. And nothing on HIStory or Invincible (THAT'S a hilarious name right there) is groundbreaking or shows any signs whatsoever of musical growth. Invincible in particular is basically his vocals set to various producer's sonic backgrounds, right? No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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Luv4oneanotha said: ur goin ver board
Facination was Recorded in the mid-80's wasn't regarded toward Mj this is a result of over Analyzation and Refferring to kings and Princes he's been doin that since 1999 the whole king of pop none-sense started late 80's early nineties the tony M ra could be regarded in anyway thats it interpreted but i highly doubt their talkin about MJ C'mon now im started to lose respect 4 u See, this kind of ignorance is what drives me bonkers. I don't know how old any of you are, or how old you were when, say 0(+> came out with the line about not wanting to be King, and the "you must become a prince before you're a king anyway" - um, keep in mind that this was just shortly after Michael strong-armed the media into referring to him as the King of Pop. And Fascination is from 1997, not the mid-80's...again, just shortly after the so-called King of Pop gave birth to so-called Prince. It has been widely accepted and understood within the Prince community since these records were released that these lines are references to Michael Jackson. Overanalyzing? That's a freaking laugh. Do you pay any attention to the lyrics at all? And I totally don't want to talk about LOTP anymore, but I guess I will anyway, heh. Since when does Prince always tell the truth? It makes sense for him to say it's not about Michael...otherwise he'd be quoted in the newpapers and on Entertainment Weekly, etc. - and he's aware that Michael already has more than he can handle right now. I don't see how anyone can read any of those lyrics within the context of the songs and the year that they were released and not KNOW (not think, KNOW) that they are references to the King of Pop. Please provide some examples of Prince referring to "kings" in 1999. Not that it would in any way bolster your argument that he's not talking about MJ in MNIP and Fascination, but I'm curious to see if you can come up with one, because I sure can't. and you're sorta right about the timing of the King of Pop thing...it happened right before Dangerous came out, in 1991 or 1992, HEY WADDAYA KNOW!! Exactly the same time that MNIP and 2 Whomever It May Concern were recorded. Wow, that's strange. Come on, I'm starting to lose respect for you. [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 9:10:53 2004 by theblueangel] No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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Luv4oneanotha said: i mean if tony would of rapped a "Your just Porcelain King Reigning a dark kingdom
just a simpleton, i'll pop you like a pimple son"(id like to mention that tony was like the weakest rapper) then maybe i'll get what yur sayin but they didn'ts ay that that whole verse can be regarded in anyway lol What in the fucking world are you talking about? You might wanna check the synapses in your brain, because I think one of 'em shorted out on you. The lyric you made up above doesn't sound like it's about Michael Jackson, the self-proclaimed King of Pop...but "you must become a Prince before you're a King anyway" sure as hell does. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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riverdean7 said: nothings wrong with invincible if it was princes album it will be probably one of his best selling albums ever numbers are sketchy but as of a year ago i read it sold 10 million albums this with virtually no promotion no tour only 2 videos only 1 in which he appeared and mj had huge ideas for other videos 1 being threatened but everything fell apart with the situation with sony and tommy mottola and so invincible was basically shelved
You're fucking kidding, right? Virtually no promotion? That stupid silver metallic face of his was plastered all over the goddamn place, and I read article after article after article about the album before it was released and right after. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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Wow, I sure know how to monopolize a thread!!! Sorry y'all...I get excited and just type type type...I'll try to slow down. No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.
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theblueangel said: You're fucking kidding, right? Virtually no promotion? That stupid silver metallic face of his was plastered all over the goddamn place, and I read article after article after article about the album before it was released and right after.
Compared to his other albums it didn't recieve a great deal of promotion. Singles and videos usually help. | |
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theblueangel said: riverdean7 said: nothings wrong with invincible if it was princes album it will be probably one of his best selling albums ever numbers are sketchy but as of a year ago i read it sold 10 million albums this with virtually no promotion no tour only 2 videos only 1 in which he appeared and mj had huge ideas for other videos 1 being threatened but everything fell apart with the situation with sony and tommy mottola and so invincible was basically shelved
You're fucking kidding, right? Virtually no promotion? That stupid silver metallic face of his was plastered all over the goddamn place, and I read article after article after article about the album before it was released and right after. You gotta be kidding all the things written about him was how his face is fucked up, how invisible is invincible and how he tired he looked in 30th ann(i think it was his best) , how tired invincible sounds!!! Jesus they even said:" Isnt he ashamed to show his ugly face in YRMW video" etc etc...Quite a good promotion!!!! If they didnt say NOTHING it would sell a lot more! By his standards Invincible is so easy to hate! But then again if you dont compare to his previous works its great...Anyways I think Dangerous,Bad and HIStory are the bests [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 10:40:34 2004 by LightOfArt] | |
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Off The Wall is his best, dude.  | |
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Invincible is his second best, dude. | |
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Yes it is. If anyone cares to disagree there's a little present for you below.  | |
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theblueangel said: Luv4oneanotha said: ur goin ver board
Facination was Recorded in the mid-80's wasn't regarded toward Mj this is a result of over Analyzation and Refferring to kings and Princes he's been doin that since 1999 the whole king of pop none-sense started late 80's early nineties the tony M ra could be regarded in anyway thats it interpreted but i highly doubt their talkin about MJ C'mon now im started to lose respect 4 u See, this kind of ignorance is what drives me bonkers. I don't know how old any of you are, or how old you were when, say 0(+> came out with the line about not wanting to be King, and the "you must become a prince before you're a king anyway" - um, keep in mind that this was just shortly after Michael strong-armed the media into referring to him as the King of Pop. And Fascination is from 1997, not the mid-80's...again, just shortly after the so-called King of Pop gave birth to so-called Prince. It has been widely accepted and understood within the Prince community since these records were released that these lines are references to Michael Jackson. Overanalyzing? That's a freaking laugh. Do you pay any attention to the lyrics at all? And I totally don't want to talk about LOTP anymore, but I guess I will anyway, heh. Since when does Prince always tell the truth? It makes sense for him to say it's not about Michael...otherwise he'd be quoted in the newpapers and on Entertainment Weekly, etc. - and he's aware that Michael already has more than he can handle right now. I don't see how anyone can read any of those lyrics within the context of the songs and the year that they were released and not KNOW (not think, KNOW) that they are references to the King of Pop. Please provide some examples of Prince referring to "kings" in 1999. Not that it would in any way bolster your argument that he's not talking about MJ in MNIP and Fascination, but I'm curious to see if you can come up with one, because I sure can't. and you're sorta right about the timing of the King of Pop thing...it happened right before Dangerous came out, in 1991 or 1992, HEY WADDAYA KNOW!! Exactly the same time that MNIP and 2 Whomever It May Concern were recorded. Wow, that's strange. Come on, I'm starting to lose respect for you.
[This message was edited Sat Apr 24 9:10:53 2004 by theblueangel] 1)MJ never told media to call him King! Are you mad? Media does every single thing to make MJ look bad! 2) It was 1988 not right before Dangerous was released(1991). when Liz Taylor called MJ on stage in an award show she refferef to him as: "I think he is the king of pop,rock and soul" something like that...so fans took it and it was all over the place | |
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