VoicesCarry said:

Lupus may be hard to diagnose. It’s often mistaken for other diseases. For this reason, lupus has been called the “great imitator.” The signs of lupus differ from person to person. Some people have just a few signs; others have more.

Common signs of lupus are:

Red rash or color change on the face, often in the shape of a butterfly across the nose and cheeks


Painful or swollen joints


Unexplained fever


Chest pain with deep breathing


Swollen glands


Extreme fatigue (feeling tired all the time)


Unusual hair loss (mainly on the scalp)


Pale or purple fingers or toes from cold or stress


Sensitivity to the sun


Low blood count


Depression, trouble thinking, and/or memory problems


Other signs are mouth sores, unexplained seizures (convulsions), “seeing things” (hallucinations), repeated miscarriages, and unexplained kidney problems.

WildStyle said:

I'd sue the mortician. Looks like a bad embalming job.

LittlePill said:

okaypimpn said:

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Thank God some finally said A black man without some facial hair is wierd.

LittlePill said:

They both look like statues at Mme. Tussaud's.

Michael just doesn't look good in facial hair. I think he looks disasterous.

http://www.mjimm.com/mjco....php?t=911
Those are vitiligo pic.

Michael claims to have vitiligos and nothing else. Lopus? Where did that come from? Does anyone here watch America's next top model. The black girl, Mercedes, had lopus and she didn't look all ugly.

Michael should have stop all that plastic surgery at the BAD era when he still sort of looked black.

Celestia said:

Shit! The boy's got it bad.

Cloudbuster said:

wow....now some of those looked doctored up..but others dont...


and i wonder if anyone will take the time to look at these? or refuse to look because it would end decades of jokes.....

Looks more like spots the concealer didn't get to.

Honestly, can you tell me why a man who holds a press conference to rat out his boss wouldn't just come clean about having a relatively easy-to-handle skin disease? With all Michael's charity work, you'd think that would be at the forefront of his agenda. It also would help him clear up some of the myths about his surgery.

I'm not buying it.

The only reason fans talk about the lupus thing is because it was revealed in court documents over some lawsuit MJ was facing. Michael has actually never spoke about it publicly. Although he did speak at a Lupus fund raiser last year. No one knows what he said but the people there that night. He also wears a medic alert bracelet.

VoicesCarry,

Have you seen the pictures of the spider bite on Mike's leg from his doctor's site? That was proof enough for me that he has vitilligo. I will post the pictures in a few minutes for everybody. Y'all will just brush it off but it's worth a shot
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WildStyle said:

Already seen 'em.

VoicesCarry said:

These ones?

WildStyle said:

Yup.

VoicesCarry said:

And that doesn't look like vitilligo to you?

WildStyle said:

With this guy, I don't even know anymore. The man is a waxwork. I have no idea what he's done to himself, or what multiple genetic disorders he has apparently inherited while no one else in his lineage is affected.
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VoicesCarry said:

Well i'm just gonna break it down as simple as possible.

Is that Michael Jackson's leg? Yes

Does that look like the effects of vitilligo on his leg? Yes

Does Michael claim to have vitilligo? Yes

WildStyle said:

Do I have to believe it? No.

VoicesCarry said:

I didn't say you HAVE to believe it. But after seeing pics like that, I can't see any reason for anybody NOT to believe it. Unless they just don't WANT to believe it.

WildStyle said:

As I said, it could be one of many things. Michael has had so much work done on him that I really don't know anymore - I'm reserving judgement. As someone else mentioned, if he had vitiligo, why didn't he actually try to maintain his natural skin tone instead of turning white? Because makeup comes in all tones.

VoicesCarry said:

That's an argument I have heard often. He actually did do that for a long period of time. But how can you expect him to cover his whole body with dark makeup only to have to wash it off the same night? He might as well just live with the fact that his pigmentation is gone rather then going on trying to fool himself and everybody else.

You also have to look at what an effect this had on his mental state. First of all, he was already self conscious about his appearance. Then he starts getting bad acne. Then once his acne gos away, he starts to discover white blotches all over his body.

WildStyle said:

Your avvay looks like a PRINCE POSE

BTW: I dont believe the virtiglio hype

The spider bite just made his skin sensitive...after all them chemicals in it, y wouldnt it be?

It's not even possible to become THAT white just with some kind of bleaching creme. He must have vitiligo to become so white. Ask doctors.

Hey im new...enjoyed reading these boards for ages! its cool

anyway I believe MJs got the vitiligo thing or what ever it is!