I ain't neva heard such madness about music in radio discussions till this album hit the streets. Women(mainly sistas) were calling and calling and calling lol some of them were offended by the message L-Boogie was upfront about in "Doo Wop That Thing" and some of them(me included) applaud her 4 the bald attitude and talking about issues NONE would eva dare to even think about discussing them. I hear many folks dissed this as a "Fuck You, Wyclef" album but I strongly disagree. I don't agree with many music critics nowadays but I finally agreed when some writer in Vibe magazine called it the 90's version of Marvin Gaye's "Whats Going On". This album still and will always possesse a GREAT place in my heart.

I thought about posting this thread after I gave that album afew spins last night while cooking my supper. I truely wish nothing but the best 4 my girl, may she overcome the madness she's going through(whateva it is).

So, my ?uestion is: Do you think it deserved it mad success or do you think it was too over-hyped? And Why?

Overall, explain yo personal reaction when you heard it.

Holla!
[This message was edited Thu Apr 1 8:18:32 2004 by Harlepolis]

I really dug this LP on first listen, because it felt like Lauryn was "speaking to" her audience. It seemed like a well-produced, heartfelt set of outstanding tracks. It felt like her "state of the union" record.

Despite my distaste for the self-importance and egomania that seems to plague the public personas of Lauryn and her former Fugee colleagues, I still consider "Miseducation" a modern classic.

I'll never forget...

I was graduating from high school when "Lost Ones" came out and "Doo Wop (That Thing)" followed shortly after that. I couldn't wait to get my hands on that album and when it finally dropped, it was like a breath of fresh air after holding it for so long. It should definitely go down as a classic, IMO.

This is the last album by a female that I feel earned the Grammys it got.

this album made me happy. i feel like it was well done and is a great work of art. i remember being all excited about her next album and then it seemed like the proverbial shit hit the fan. i hope things improve for her.

I was not mature enough at the time of release to "get" this record, but in recent years it's become one of my favs and I consider it perhaps the best record of the 90's. But I don't consider it comparable to "What's Going On?".

VoicesCarry said:

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

eversince i heard l-boogie on the fugees' 1st 2 albums, seen her in the 2nd sister act, and heard the sweetest thing in lovejones, i couldn't wait 2 hear what she do on her own and then miss-education snuck up from behind and kissed my cheek...

okaypimpn said:

I'm 18, 19 in July.

VoicesCarry said:

wow, you talk like you're some 40 yer old seasoned music veteran.

jessyMD32781 said:

Thanks, but it's just a matter of liking music. A lot.

I was in high school when this came out and was like "oh shit!"

I felt it would be classic on some level, or at least important in my life experience because of the craaaazy production values and lyrics. But anyone who had heard the soundtrack cut "The Sweetest Thing" by Lauryn knew she'd come with it.

It's a great album. I need another copy.

Everything Is Everything and Every Ghetto, Every City were played out. I loved the album the first time I heard it, however, I played it too much and got tired of it. But I definitely thought it lived up to the hype.

VoicesCarry said:

Oh, okay. Cool.

The critiscm of Lauryn Hill that many people (NOT MY OPINION) had was that she was acting like she was morally superior

and that she wasn't the great role model she made herself out to be.

She had an affair with a married man (Wyclef) and Rohan Marley was already married when she had children by him.


Do you agree with the statement and that she wasn't practicing what she preached????

Harlepolis said:

Definitley.

Harlepolis said:

Harlepolis said:

Yeah but so many musical artists aren't practicing what they preach either. Musicians shouldn't be looked upon as role models in the first place.

Harlepolis said:

I don't know that everything I hear about Lauryn's personal life is true, so I'll refrain from criticizing her about it. A ton of us human beings in general have acted one way while giving lip service to a contrary opinion. Some of us realize our faults because we want to uphold our ideals, and some of us don't. I digress...

It's an excellent album, but I wouldn't go so far as to put it on the same pedestal as Marvin's apex of What's Going On. I also couldn't put it up there as being the best album of its decade. Remembering what my reaction toward it was when I heard it the very first time is all blurred, I can't remember. BUT, it definitely is one of the musical highlights of recent years. It deserves its spot in my collection.
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[This message was edited Thu Apr 1 14:18:46 2004 by Supernova]

[Good gosh. ... OK ... I'm good. ]

I actually felt Lauryn would come into her own after I heard her contributions to the Sister Act 2 film. I thought she had tons of talent, as a singer and actress, and that she needed to break from the Fugees and go solo.

When I heard Miseducation, I was struck by how masterfully Lauryn had made that leap. I heard her writing very pointed lyrics about the battle of the sexes, her feelings about motherhood and her desire for humanity to overcome our petty issues.

And, she was this wonderful talent who could cut you with a rhyme and soothe you with her voice.

A lot of what she sang on that album challenged me as man and inspired me as an artist. The glaring differences between this album and her unplugged disaster are at the root of folks' dissatisfaction with where her artistic journey has taken her. She defends it as a good thing, but I can't see the difference between her recent declarations about motherhood, reality and artistic growth and the lyrics on Miseducation. Which leads me to believe the rumors I've heard about her being under the spell of some religious guru.

I hope she gets well enough to return to form. No, it needn't be another Miseducation, but I'd just like to see this sister soar again.

Harlepolis said:

The LP itself was morally honest. She talked about keeping her baby conceived out of wedlock and the travails of the music industry. By no means did she come across on her LP as being morally superior.

It was only after the success and fame she garnered after the LP came out that an aura of self-importance came from her (as I see it).

There's a difference. She deserves credit for making a remarkable LP.

Loved loved loved it! Still do.....

VoicesCarry said:

Out of curiosity, where's the reservoir of listening material coming from?
You've made some very cogent commentary on a lot of older artists

Tribal Disorder

I remember a guy asking me if he could call me Lauryn.





that was our last date.
my twin?...almost but not really: no:
whadduyou think okaypimpin?

I say no.

mochalox said:

Now I know I gotta marry you!!!! Mrs. Mochapimpn!!!!!

I do!!! Where do you wanna go 4 our huni-moon?

Tennesse?? Ya-ya-ya!!
*shameless refrence to Alphabet Street*

@ both of you!

You fools need some SUGAR in yo systems, its really obevious.

mochalox said:

Where ever you wanna go, babe!!!

"I dont' care where we go,
I don't care what we do,
I don't care pretty baby,
Just take me with U"