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Printableminneapolisgenius said: These guys....
 Who the hell is this?  | |
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okaypimpn said: minneapolisgenius said: These guys....
Who the hell is this? It's The Cure. | |
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Cloudbuster said: Where's Bob Dylan? And not enough girls!! Bjork, Stevie Nicks and Ms Bush should be on there, too. And no Barry Gibb or John/Taupin, either. Hell! Where's all the old gang who wrote for Marvin Gaye? Hell! Where's Marvin Gaye?
 Thom Yorke should also get a mention. And no MJ! Let's not be churlish, eh?!MJ is a great songwriter, but his output's so low that I don't think he's a reasonable consideration for the Top 20, which is what was asked for. | |
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SteamForest said: Cloudbuster said: Quincy didn't write for Michael's albums other than P.Y.T. on Thriller. And Michael wrote a lot of stuff himself. 
. [This message was edited Mon Apr 12 9:30:58 2004 by Cloudbuster] I could have sworn Quincy and Rod put there stamp no MJ's Off the Wall as well. Oh well. Temperton wrote 3 tracks on Off The Wall. | |
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Some favorites are:
James Harris III and Terry Lewis Babyface Gamble & Huff Holland/Dozier/Holland Prince Stevie Wonder Terence Trent Darby Smokey Robinson Michael Jackson Nile Rodgers |
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There is no best songwriter of all time.
Nuff said! | |
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VoicesCarry said: Cloudbuster said: Where's Bob Dylan? And not enough girls!! Bjork, Stevie Nicks and Ms Bush should be on there, too. And no Barry Gibb or John/Taupin, either. Hell! Where's all the old gang who wrote for Marvin Gaye? Hell! Where's Marvin Gaye?
Thom Yorke should also get a mention. And no MJ! Let's not be churlish, eh?!MJ is a great songwriter, but his output's so low that I don't think he's a reasonable consideration for the Top 20, which is what was asked for. In the Billboard book of No1's, he's in the top 15 songwriters who've penned no1's. He's definately written more than a few, The majority of his best songs infact. Besides, even if he only ever wrote Billie Jean, he still get's in! 'nuffsaid! |
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why does mj have to slither in2 every post on here? | |
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erm, because he's the king of pop and no music discussion board could avoid him!
nobody has mentioned George Michael, all of the songs from his solo career and a lot from wham were written by him and you aint tellin me Jesus to a Child, John and Elvis are Dead and Careless Whisper dont deserve a mention | |
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Marrk said: VoicesCarry said: MJ is a great songwriter, but his output's so low that I don't think he's a reasonable consideration for the Top 20, which is what was asked for. In the Billboard book of No1's, he's in the top 15 songwriters who've penned no1's. He's definately written more than a few, The majority of his best songs infact. Besides, even if he only ever wrote Billie Jean, he still get's in! 'nuffsaid! So? Doesn't mean he's top 20 material. Joni Mitchell's never had a no. 1 song. Does that mean she's not one of the best? To give you an idea, MARIAH CAREY ranks above MJ on that list. So does Madonna. Diane Warren isn't too far behind. P. Diddy is closing in. Jon Bon Jovi even makes the top 30. I think Michael Jackson has written some truly classic material but I still don't think he's one of the top 20 of all time. Has anyone mentioned Phil Spector yet? [This message was edited Mon Apr 12 16:07:26 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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TOM WAITS
BOB DYLAN JOHN LENNON JONI MITCHELL NEIL YOUNG PRINCE DAVID BOWIE TORI AMOS PAUL MCCARTNEY LEONARD COHEN There ya have it - the BIG 10 | |
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paligap said: George and Ira Gershwin
Rodgers and Hart (Richard Rogers, Lorenz Hart) Rodgers and Hammerstein ( Richard Rogers, Oscar Hammerstein) Duke Ellington/ Billy Strayhorn Cole Porter Burt Bacharach/ Hal David Jimmy Webb Lennon/ McCartney Thom Bell/ Linda Creed Kenny Gamble Leon Huff Leon Russell Carole King Holland/ Dozier/ Holland Smokey Robinson Stevie Wonder Jefferson, Hawes,Simmons ( The Corporation (Fonce Mizzell, Freddie Perren,Deke Richards, etc) Joni Mitchell Randy Newman Bob Dylan James Taylor Skip Scarborough Simon/Garfunkel Sylvester Stewart (Sly Stone) Stevie Wonder Jimi Hendrix Rod Temperton Difford and Tilbrook Paddy Mcaloon Maurice White, Charles Stepney Prince that's my list too but where's: Sting, Michael Franti (the modern day Bob Dylan), TTD, John Mellencamp JAMES - blinking- BROWN!!!!! PJ Harvey??? huh? hm? | |
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I see a glaring ommission from these lists:
Morissey/Johnny Marr and they must be included as a duo, coe when their forces combined, no one could touch 'em! | |
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No particular order:
Ani DiFranco Meshell Ndegeocello Goffin & King Chuck Berry Holland, Dozier, Holland Gamble & Huff Smokey Robinson Stevie Wonder Chrissy Hynde Carlton Ridenhour, Hank Shocklee, Eric Sadler Jimi Hendrix Dolly Parton Bob Marley Isaac Hayes & David Porter Lennon, McCartney, Harrison Neil Young Prince Cole Porter Willie Dixon ` [This message was edited Wed Apr 14 16:19:22 2004 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Songs written or co-written by Michael Jackson:
With The Jacksons: Blues Away Style Of Life (co-written) Different Kind Of Lady (co-written) Do What You Wanna (co-written) Push Me Away (co-written) Things I Do For You (co-written) Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) (co-written) Destiny (co-written) Bless His Soul (co-written) All Night Dancin' (co-written) That's What You Get For Being Polite (co-written) Can You Feel It (co-written) Lovely One (co-written) Everybody (co-written) This Place Hotel Walk Right Now (co-written) Give It Up (co-written) Be Not Always State Of Shock Solo: Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough Workin' Day And Night Get On The Floor (co-written) Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' The Girl Is Mine Beat It Billie Jean We Are Here To Change The World (co-written) Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Speed Demon Liberian Girl Another Part Of Me I Just Can't Stop Loving You Dirty Diana Smooth Criminal Leave Me Alone Streetwalker Fly Away Jam In The Closet (co-written) She Drives Me Wild (co-written) Remember The Time (co-written) Can't Let Her Get Away (co written) Heal The World Black Or White Who Is It Give In To Me (co-written) Will You Be There Keep The Faith (co-written) Dangerous (co-written) Someone Put Your Hand Out (co-written) Mind Is The Magic Scream (co-written) They Don't Care About Us Stranger In Moscow This Time Around Earth Song D.S. Money Childhood Tabloid Junkie (co-written) 2 Bad HIStory (co-written) Little Susie Blood On The Dance Floor (co-written) Morphine Superfly Sister (co-written) Ghosts (co-written) Is It Scary (co-written) Unbreakable (co-written) Heartbreaker (co-written) Invincible (co-written) Break Of Dawn (co-written) Heaven Can Wait (co-written) You Rock My World (co-written) Speechless 2000 Watts (co-written) You Are My Life (co-written) Privacy (co-written) Don't Walk Away (co-written) The Lost Children Whatever Happens (co-written) Threatened (co-written) For Other Artists: Latoya Jackson - Night Time Lover (co-written) The Brothers Johnson – This Had To Be (co-written) Diana Ross – Muscles Paul McCartney (Featuring Michael Jackson) – Say Say Say (co-written) Paul McCartney (Featuring Michael Jackson) – The Man (co-written) Rebbie Jackson – Centipede Johnny Mathis – Love Never Felt So Good (co-written) Greg Phillinganes – Behind The Mask (co-written) USA For Africa – We Are The World (co-written) Jennifer Holiday – You’re The One Diana Ross – Eaten Alive (co-written) Ralph Tresvant – Alright Now (co-written) The Simpsons – Do The Bartman Safire – I Never Heard (co-written) Blackstreet – Joy (co-written) The Simpsons – Happy Birthday Lisa J-Friends – Children’s Holiday J-Friends – People Of The World Various Artists – What More Can I Give Total Songs: 102 Written Solely By Michael Jackson: 47 Co-written: 55 --- I would say he qualifies  | |
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Ooh,I feel embarassed! I forgot Barry Gibb and Holland-Dozier-Holland... | |
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endorphin74 said: I see a glaring ommission from these lists:
Morissey/Johnny Marr  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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FunkyBrotha said: erm, because he's the king of pop and no music discussion board could avoid him!
nobody has mentioned George Michael, all of the songs from his solo career and a lot from wham were written by him and you aint tellin me Jesus to a Child, John and Elvis are Dead and Careless Whisper dont deserve a mention Yeah, he was mentioned. | |
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paligap said: George and Ira Gershwin
Rodgers and Hart (Richard Rogers, Lorenz Hart) Rodgers and Hammerstein ( Richard Rogers, Oscar Hammerstein) Duke Ellington/ Billy Strayhorn Cole Porter Burt Bacharach/ Hal David Jimmy Webb Lennon/ McCartney Thom Bell/ Linda Creed Kenny Gamble Leon Huff Leon Russell Carole King Holland/ Dozier/ Holland Smokey Robinson Jefferson, Hawes,Simmons The Corporation (Fonce Mizzell, Freddie Perren,Deke Richards, etc) Joni Mitchell Randy Newman Bob Dylan James Taylor Skip Scarborough Simon/Garfunkel Sylvester Stewart (Sly Stone) Stevie Wonder Jimi Hendrix Rod Temperton Difford and Tilbrook Paddy Mcaloon Maurice White, Charles Stepney Prince Part II:( Damn ! I just can't pick 20!!) Elton John/ Bernie Taupin Crosby, Stills, Nash Neil Young Leon Ware Donnie Hathaway Stephen Sondheim Laura Nyro Sting Donald Fagen/ Walter Becker Kate Bush Robert Plant, Jimmy Page Milton Nascimento Billy Joel Antonio Carlos Jobim Mick Jagger, Keith Richards Janis Ian David Gilmour, Roger Waters James Brown Djavan Elvis Costello Bono Brenda Russell Leonard Cohen Bobby Womack Stephen Schwartz George Clinton,William"Bootsy"Collins,EddieHazel,BernieWorrell, "Junie"Morrison Paul Weller Bruce Springsteen Mark Knopfler Don Henley/ Glenn Frey/ Joe Walsh Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding Roberta Flack Jonatha Brooke Tom Waits Peter Gabriel Tony Banks/ Phil Collins/Mike Rutherford " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: George and Ira Gershwin
Rodgers and Hart (Richard Rogers, Lorenz Hart) Rodgers and Hammerstein ( Richard Rogers, Oscar Hammerstein) Duke Ellington/ Billy Strayhorn Cole Porter Burt Bacharach/ Hal David Jimmy Webb Lennon/ McCartney Thom Bell/ Linda Creed Kenny Gamble Leon Huff Leon Russell Carole King Holland/ Dozier/ Holland Smokey Robinson Jefferson, Hawes,Simmons The Corporation (Fonce Mizzell, Freddie Perren,Deke Richards, etc) Joni Mitchell Randy Newman Bob Dylan James Taylor Skip Scarborough Simon/Garfunkel Sylvester Stewart (Sly Stone) Stevie Wonder Jimi Hendrix Rod Temperton Difford and Tilbrook Paddy Mcaloon Maurice White, Charles Stepney Prince Part II:( Damn ! I just can't pick 20!!) Elton John/ Bernie Taupin Crosby, Stills, Nash Neil Young Leon Ware Donnie Hathaway Stephen Sondheim Laura Nyro Sting Donald Fagen/ Walter Becker Kate Bush Robert Plant, Jimmy Page Milton Nascimento Billy Joel Antonio Carlos Jobim Mick Jagger, Keith Richards Janis Ian David Gilmour, Roger Waters James Brown Djavan Elvis Costello Bono Brenda Russell Leonard Cohen Bobby Womack Stephen Schwartz George Clinton,William"Bootsy"Collins,EddieHazel,BernieWorrell, "Junie"Morrison Paul Weller Bruce Springsteen Mark Knopfler Don Henley/ Glenn Frey/ Joe Walsh Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding Roberta Flack Jonatha Brooke Tom Waits Peter Gabriel Tony Banks/ Phil Collins/Mike Rutherford " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: Part II:( Damn ! I just can't pick 20!!) Elton John/ Bernie Taupin Crosby, Stills, Nash Neil Young Leon Ware Donnie Hathaway Stephen Sondheim Laura Nyro Sting Donald Fagen/ Walter Becker Kate Bush Robert Plant, Jimmy Page Milton Nascimento Billy Joel Antonio Carlos Jobim Mick Jagger, Keith Richards Janis Ian David Gilmour, Roger Waters James Brown Djavan Elvis Costello Bono Brenda Russell Leonard Cohen Bobby Womack Stephen Schwartz George Clinton,William"Bootsy"Collins,EddieHazel,BernieWorrell, "Junie"Morrison Paul Weller Bruce Springsteen Mark Knopfler Don Henley/ Glenn Frey/ Joe Walsh Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding Roberta Flack Jonatha Brooke Tom Waits Peter Gabriel Tony Banks/ Phil Collins/Mike Rutherford Question paligap... Has Roberta ever written a hit tune? I thought she basically re-arranged other people's compositions and made them her own.  | |
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okaypimpn said: [b]Roberta Flack[ Question paligap... Has Roberta ever written a hit tune? I thought she basically re-arranged other people's compositions and made them her own. OOPs! Actually, you're right ,nothing that she has written has been a hit: all of her top tunes were written by others...Damn! I should have put Curtis Mayfield and Isley/Jasper/ Isley up there.... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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There are many excellent songwriters, but the master is Bob Dylan!! No one can write like Bob. His songs are full of so many differnet emotions and passion!
Bob is #2 on the Immortals list because he deserves it! Rolling Stone sucks as a mag, but it's nice to see they at least got this list correct for a change. | |
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paligap said: paligap said: George and Ira Gershwin
Rodgers and Hart (Richard Rogers, Lorenz Hart) Rodgers and Hammerstein ( Richard Rogers, Oscar Hammerstein) Duke Ellington/ Billy Strayhorn Cole Porter Burt Bacharach/ Hal David Jimmy Webb Lennon/ McCartney Thom Bell/ Linda Creed Kenny Gamble Leon Huff Leon Russell Carole King, Gerry Coffin Holland/ Dozier/ Holland Smokey Robinson Jefferson, Hawes,Simmons The Corporation (Fonce Mizzell, Freddie Perren,Deke Richards, etc) Joni Mitchell Randy Newman Bob Dylan James Taylor Skip Scarborough Simon/Garfunkel Sylvester Stewart (Sly Stone) Stevie Wonder Jimi Hendrix Rod Temperton Difford and Tilbrook Paddy Mcaloon Maurice White, Charles Stepney Prince Part II:( Damn ! I just can't pick 20!!) Elton John/ Bernie Taupin Crosby, Stills, Nash Neil Young Leon Ware Donnie Hathaway Stephen Sondheim Laura Nyro Sting Donald Fagen/ Walter Becker Kate Bush Robert Plant, Jimmy Page Milton Nascimento Billy Joel Antonio Carlos Jobim Mick Jagger, Keith Richards Janis Ian David Gilmour, Roger Waters James Brown Djavan Elvis Costello Bono Brenda Russell Leonard Cohen Bobby Womack Stephen Schwartz George Clinton,William"Bootsy"Collins,EddieHazel,BernieWorrell, "Junie"Morrison Paul Weller Bruce Springsteen Mark Knopfler Don Henley/ Glenn Frey/ Joe Walsh Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding Jonatha Brooke Tom Waits Peter Gabriel Tony Banks/ Phil Collins/Mike Rutherford Jerry Leiber, Mike Stoller Curtis Mayfield Isley, Jasper, Isley " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: paligap said: Part II:( Damn ! I just can't pick 20!!) Elton John/ Bernie Taupin Crosby, Stills, Nash Neil Young Leon Ware Donnie Hathaway Stephen Sondheim Laura Nyro Sting Donald Fagen/ Walter Becker Kate Bush Robert Plant, Jimmy Page Milton Nascimento Billy Joel Antonio Carlos Jobim Mick Jagger, Keith Richards Janis Ian David Gilmour, Roger Waters James Brown Djavan Elvis Costello Bono Brenda Russell Leonard Cohen Bobby Womack Stephen Schwartz George Clinton,William"Bootsy"Collins,EddieHazel,BernieWorrell, "Junie"Morrison Paul Weller Bruce Springsteen Mark Knopfler Don Henley/ Glenn Frey/ Joe Walsh Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding Jonatha Brooke Tom Waits Peter Gabriel Tony Banks/ Phil Collins/Mike Rutherford Jerry Leiber, Mike Stoller Curtis Mayfield Isley, Jasper, Isley Bob Marley " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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1. STEVIE WONDER
2. ANI DIFRANCO 3. STING 4. DIANE WARREN / JAM & LEWIS 5. ALEJANDRO SANZ (LATIN MUSIC) 6. KIRK FRANKLIN / JOHN P. KEE / HEZIKIAH WALKER ( AS FAR AS GOSPEL MUSIC GOES) 7. PRINCE 8. MICHAEL JACKSON 9. LENNON/ MCCARTNEY 10. U2 (OR BONO) | |
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What no Todd Rundgren? You people know squat about songwriting... | |
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Novabreaker said: What no Todd Rundgren? You people know squat about songwriting...
I must hang my head....  How could I forget The Wizard/ The True Star?" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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DavidEye said: Stevie Wonder
Smokey Robinson Paul McCartney John Lennon Linda Creed Thom Bell Gamble and Huff Carole King Babyface Burt Bacharach Prince Rod Temperton David Foster George Michael Ashford and Simpson Freddie Perren Christine McVie Leon Sylvers Replace George Michael, Smokey Robinson, Christine McVie, Freddie Perren & Leon Sylvers with Joni Mitchell, Curtis Mayfield, Holland-Dozier-Holland, Jam & Lewis, & Lionel Richie and you'd have my list | |
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pimpdoutt said: 1. STEVIE WONDER
2. ANI DIFRANCO 3. STING 4. DIANE WARREN / JAM & LEWIS 5. ALEJANDRO SANZ (LATIN MUSIC) 6. KIRK FRANKLIN / JOHN P. KEE / HEZIKIAH WALKER ( AS FAR AS GOSPEL MUSIC GOES) 7. PRINCE 8. MICHAEL JACKSON 9. LENNON/ MCCARTNEY 10. U2 (OR BONO) NO! Someone mentioned Diane Warren! Man, all she writes are fucking maudlin ballads for the likes of Celine Dion, Toni Braxton and Milli Vanilli. | |
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