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What is the difference between Janet and Britney? I realise I am risking my life by asking this question but what is the difference between Janet and Britney? I guess an obvious one would be longevity. But they seem so similar to me. Both of them are at best marginal singers. They are both dependent on other people for their music. They both whore themselves tremendously. I don't understand why Janet gets so much respect. The only difference I can see is their race.
I ask the question because there seems to be a lot of love for Janet here and a lot of hate for Britney. Personally I like Janet's music much better but I think that has more to do with her writers/producers than it does with Janet. And yes I do realise that Janet gets many writing and coproducing credits on her albums but I don't think she could do anything on her own. And Britney is starting to get similar credit. Basically I don't think those credits mean anything. | |
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No offense, but can you start just ONE thread with a positive headline?
So far we've had: Sgt. Pepper's is garbage! Paul McCartney is a Punk! George Harrison in the Hall of Fame? Anyway, differences between Janet and Britney: 1) Janet has a voice. Britney doesn't. Ever heard Britney sing live? There's a reason for that. 2) Janet is quite involved in the creation of her music. She writes many of her own lyrics and does vocal and rhythm arrangement. She's comfortable with Jam & Lewis as collaborators because they work well together. Do we rip Michael Jackson because he worked with Quincy Jones a lot? No. BTW, most major stars couldn't do much on their own without producers. But producing your own material is not a requirement of being a vocalist or an entertainer. And even good producers can't make Britney sound adequate. 3) Janet does not whore herself "tremendously".  Christ, she's one of the most private celebs, and I give her props for that. You don't hear zip about her outside of her promotional periods. We weren't even informed about her marriage. You might say that any celebrity by definition is a "whore", since they're always selling facsimiles of themselves to the public. Then Janet is one of the least "whorish".
4) Britney has the intelligence of a turnip. Ever heard Britney talk? Seriously. "I want to go to a lot of overseas places, like Canada". Someone should put her out of her misery. When she tries to sound sexy, she only manages to sound clumsy. 5) 4 albums in and Britney has not put out anything even remotely as good as Control, RN1814, The Velvet Rope or janet. Britney is proof that working with uber-producers will only get you so far in terms of quality. At some point you need to back it up with talent. I believe Janet has accomplished that. [This message was edited Fri Apr 2 16:49:24 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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rialb said: I realise I am risking my life by asking this question but what is the difference between Janet and Britney? I guess an obvious one would be longevity. But they seem so similar to me. Both of them are at best marginal singers. They are both dependent on other people for their music. They both whore themselves tremendously. I don't understand why Janet gets so much respect. The only difference I can see is their race.
I ask the question because there seems to be a lot of love for Janet here and a lot of hate for Britney. Personally I like Janet's music much better but I think that has more to do with her writers/producers than it does with Janet. And yes I do realise that Janet gets many writing and coproducing credits on her albums but I don't think she could do anything on her own. And Britney is starting to get similar credit. Basically I don't think those credits mean anything. Janet's made a couple of genuinely great albums -the peerless "Control" and "Janet". All of Britney's albums are crap. Oh, and Janet's a complete babe ... There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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VoicesCarry said: No offense, but can you start just ONE thread with a positive headline?
So far we've had: Sgt. Pepper's is garbage! Paul McCartney is a Punk! George Harrison in the Hall of Fame? Anyway, differences between Janet and Britney: 1) Janet has a voice. Britney doesn't. Ever heard Britney sing live? There's a reason for that. 2) Janet is quite involved in the creation of her music. She writes many of her own lyrics and does vocal and rhythm arrangement. She's comfortable with Jam & Lewis as collaborators because they work well together. Do we rip Michael Jackson because he worked with Quincy Jones a lot? No. BTW, most major stars couldn't do much on their own without producers. But producing your own material is not a requirement of being a vocalist or an entertainer. And even good producers can't make Britney sound adequate. 3) Janet does not whore herself "tremendously". Christ, she's one of the most private celebs, and I give her props for that. You don't hear zip about her outside of her promotional periods. We weren't even informed about her marriage. You might say that any celebrity by definition is a "whore", since they're always selling facsimiles of themselves to the public. Then Janet is one of the least "whorish".
4) Britney has the intelligence of a turnip. Ever heard Britney talk? Seriously. "I want to go to a lot of overseas places, like Canada". Someone should put her out of her misery. When she tries to sound sexy, she only manages to sound clumsy. 5) 4 albums in and Britney has not put out anything even remotely as good as Control, RN1814, The Velvet Rope or janet. Britney is proof that working with uber-producers will only get you so far in terms of quality. At some point you need to back it up with talent. I believe Janet has accomplished that. [This message was edited Fri Apr 2 16:49:24 2004 by VoicesCarry] I don't know, I think there are still many more simiarities than differences. 1) I disagree. Janet has a pretty thin voice. And she doesn't sing live a lot either. 2) Britney is becoming more involved with the making of her music. 3) This I will have to concede. I should have worded my argument better. They do both whore their bodies about the same. Where would Janet be today without the cosmic surgery and implants? 4) Totally agree, but Janet is no genius either. 5) There are people who would disagree with you, but I'm not one of them. Yes Janet's material has been better but their styles are very similar. I don't think you really disproved my original observation. They are much more similar than they are different. Now I will try to come up with a positive post. But what is negative about the title of this one? | |
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rialb said: I don't know, I think there are still many more simiarities than differences. 1) I disagree. Janet has a pretty thin voice. And she doesn't sing live a lot either. Not when she's dancing, no. But she can. Remember her performance of "Again" at the Academy Awards in '94? Great stuff. She can hit a note, and her voice sounds great. No, it's not powerful but it SOUNDS good. rialb said: 2) Britney is becoming more involved with the making of her music. Uh...yeah, whatever you say. She isn't producing anything, and her 'writing' (if you believe it is hers) consists mostly of tracks like "Early Mornin'" and "Showdown". BTW the whole promotional push of In The Zone was that she was "growing up and becoming 'a woman'", so they had to say she did something. They didn't need to build Janet up like that because she did it from the start. rialb said: 3) This I will have to concede. I should have worded my argument better. They do both whore their bodies about the same. Where would Janet be today without the cosmic surgery and implants? I don't know, probably the same place? Janet got along just fine without the implants and the nose job - in fact, she looked rather plain when she was young (see: Rhythm Nation, Control, her early acting career), whereas somehow I don't think Britney would make it without her looks. rialb said: 4) Totally agree, but Janet is no genius either. Well, she's never said stupid shit, and she rarely DOES stupid shit. Compared to Britney, she IS a genius. Again, I challenge you to listen to a minute of Britney's 12-year-old speech without laughing. rialb said: 5) There are people who would disagree with you, but I'm not one of them. Yes Janet's material has been better but their styles are very similar. They both do pop but that's about it. Britney is Samantha Fox eurobeat (the Max Martin influence). She is NOT R&B/soul/good pop. In other words, her music is not in Janet's style. [This message was edited Fri Apr 2 17:18:58 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: 1) Janet has a voice. Britney doesn't. Ever heard Britney sing live? There's a reason for that.
With all due respect, VC, Janet's voice IS kinda thin. And I didn't hear Janet sing much during her last concert. 2) Janet is quite involved in the creation of her music. She writes many of her own lyrics and does vocal and rhythm arrangement. She's comfortable with Jam & Lewis as collaborators because they work well together. Do we rip Michael Jackson because he worked with Quincy Jones a lot? No. BTW, most major stars couldn't do much on their own without producers. But producing your own material is not a requirement of being a vocalist or an entertainer. And even good producers can't make Britney sound adequate.
Very good points. J&J&T make a great team. 3) Janet does not whore herself "tremendously".
Christ, she's one of the most private celebs, and I give her props for that. You don't hear zip about her outside of her promotional periods. We weren't even informed about her marriage. You might say that any celebrity by definition is a "whore", since they're always selling facsimiles of themselves to the public. Then Janet is one of the least "whorish"."Whore" is a strong and inappropriate word. But Janet ain't demure by a damn sight. Her AFY concert, while very entertaining, featured some bondage and grind theatrics that would compare to a lot of what P used to do on the Dirty Mind tour. 4) Britney has the intelligence of a turnip. Ever heard Britney talk? Seriously. "I want to go to a lot of overseas places, like Canada". Someone should put her out of her misery. When she tries to sound sexy, she only manages to sound clumsy.
Can't find any room to argue with that. 5) 4 albums in and Britney has not put out anything even remotely as good as Control, RN1814, The Velvet Rope or janet.
Nor that. rialb said: I don't know, I think there are still many more simiarities than differences. you may have a point -- to a point. Both Janet and Britney are more performers and entertainers than artists or singers. Both Janet and Britney do a great job of crafting their stage and public personas. The problem that both Janet and Britney are having is that the Beyonces and Alicias of the world have carefully crafted images AND they can actually sing and/or play. The major differences? Janet has, to her credit, managed to knock out some great tunes over the years. I have yet to hear one from Britney. Janet has personal charisma and sex appeal. Britney? Nope on both counts. [This message was edited Fri Apr 2 17:28:12 2004 by namepeace] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said:[quote] VoicesCarry said: rialb said: I don't know, I think there are still many more simiarities than differences. you may have a point -- to a point. Both Janet and Britney are more performers and entertainers than artists or singers. Both Janet and Britney do a great job of crafting their stage and public personas. The problem that both Janet and Britney are having is that the Beyonces and Alicias of the world have carefully crafted images AND they can actually sing and/or play. The major differences? Janet has, to her credit, managed to knock out some great tunes over the years. I have yet to hear one from Britney. Janet has personal charisma and sex appeal. Britney? Nope on both counts. [This message was edited Fri Apr 2 17:28:12 2004 by namepeace] Not an incredible voice, but at least she can carry a tune  | |
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namepeace said:[quote] VoicesCarry said: rialb said: I don't know, I think there are still many more simiarities than differences. you may have a point -- to a point. Both Janet and Britney are more performers and entertainers than artists or singers. Both Janet and Britney do a great job of crafting their stage and public personas. The problem that both Janet and Britney are having is that the Beyonces and Alicias of the world have carefully crafted images AND they can actually sing and/or play. The major differences? Janet has, to her credit, managed to knock out some great tunes over the years. I have yet to hear one from Britney. Janet has personal charisma and sex appeal. Britney? Nope on both counts. I should have had you write my arguments for me. The fact that they are both basically visual artists is something I forgot to mention. In the pre MTV era I seriously doubt that either of them would have had a career in music. No one can deny that Janet owes much of her success to her videos. I'm not one of them but I think many people would disagree with you about Britney's sex appeal. I think you could make a solid argument that more men find Britney sexy than find Janet sexy. I could be wrong but I think they are very close on that point. | |
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I think that people are not only to hard on Britney but they are way way to harsh on Janet and downplay the tremenedous effort that she puts into her albums. Janet is the reason that all of those great albums (from "Control" to "The Velvet Rope" keeping in mind that some people can't stand AFY or DJ) . Face it, those themes and lyrics weren't all Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. They are all Janet, for better or worse.
For vocals, I like both Janet and Britney. I really think that Britney has a decent voice. It's thin and good for the types of songs she sings. And Janet can really do a pop ballad or silky R&B number, not to mention the dance jams. Janet is the only person that can sing her own songs. I can't say the same for Britney, whose songs seem to be pop and non-personal enough to be sung by anyone. As for Britney not making any good albums, I tired listening to her first two albms and there is nothing there. I bought "In the Zone" and that album has a few good songs but is pretty vapid. However, I love "Britney", her 3rd album, which she co-wrote a lot of. Interesting thing, a lot of the songs on there sound like imitations of songs from "All For You". If there are any similarties between the two, it is becuase Britney is modeling herself to be like Janet but I don't think that any of her albums, even if they are choke full of good songs like "Britney", will have the impact of Janet's albums, that always seem to have a strong persoanlity to them, even if the albums aren't great (according to some) and even if she tends to repeat the same kind of themes and styles (which is something Britney Spears does quite a bit). | |
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WELL, JANET WRITES HER SONGS... THAT'S A THING...
SHE HASN'T BEEN SELLING THE "VIRGIN" IMAGE TO GET SLUTTY AFTERWARDS AND... WELL ...  "America is a continent..." |
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There is no difference...where Britney obviously looks up to Madonna,
her career is more along the path of Janets. They are as interchangable as car tires...but some folks will argue that point... Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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rialb said: namepeace said: The major differences? Janet has, to her credit, managed to knock out some great tunes over the years. I have yet to hear one from Britney. Janet has personal charisma and sex appeal. Britney? Nope on both counts. I'm not one of them but I think many people would disagree with you about Britney's sex appeal. I think you could make a solid argument that more men find Britney sexy than find Janet sexy. I could be wrong but I think they are very close on that point. Yeah, I'd acknowledge that.  Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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If I'm not mistaken Janet seems to have more intelligentence or a better business manager than Britney. I heard awhile back Janet has a fortune to rival what her brother once had, becuase of good investments in the stock market and realstate. She did want to go to college to be an accountant or business attonery before Joesph told her to sing. One more thing before I leave... On David Letterman her business side showed when Dave asked her about her bother and she coldly replied I told I wasn't going to talk about that. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Uh...age, those dance moves sho' look familiar. Janet was hot when she had a few extra pounds, I serious doubt Brittany could have pulled that one off. I realize that sounds pretty lame, but let's face it, would Brittany be all that she is without the package that she's in. | |
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the difference these days?
Britney has more class  and more ambition to put out a worthwhile album | |
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ok...ok..this is a trick questions right....uh...let me see.....uh.....janet....britney.....ok...likes to play innocent....thats not it....thin voices...uh no.....
one is black and one is white....is that it!!!! What do I win?!!!! | |
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togdog said: the difference these days?
Britney has more class and more ambition to put out a worthwhile album Class ??? did you watch that concert...she is a nasty ass hoe who plays innocent (ok..I know that was mean but....). I sorta miss the hoes who say...Damn it...I'mma hoe....I'mma sing about being hoe, I'mma look like a hoe and teach about hoedom.... That chile ain't got no class.... please keep me off the org in the morning...i'm really mean  | |
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Rhondab said: togdog said: the difference these days?
Britney has more class and more ambition to put out a worthwhile album Class ??? did you watch that concert...she is a nasty ass hoe who plays innocent (ok..I know that was mean but....). I sorta miss the hoes who say...Damn it...I'mma hoe....I'mma sing about being hoe, I'mma look like a hoe and teach about hoedom.... That chile ain't got no class.... please keep me off the org in the morning...i'm really mean  @ "teach about hoedom" too funny... | |
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After hearing Damita Jo i'd say there is no difference....they're both as shite as each other. | |
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Revolution said: There is no difference...where Britney obviously looks up to Madonna,
her career is more along the path of Janets. They are as interchangable as car tires...but some folks will argue that point... Wow! Somebody agrees with me. See people I'm not crazy. | |
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I won't get into sluttiness and whatnot. Neither of them are above selling an album. Both ladies have poor singing voices and you can throw the likes of Madonna and J-Lo in there with them. Other than the obvious age and color differences what sets the Madonnas and Janets apart from the Britneys and J-Los is a rich history of quality music.
I don't believe any of these ladies have written anything-- minimal input at best-- and the same can be said about Michael, Justin, and many men too. Nevertheless Janet has had great albums whereas Britney hasn't even had a good trademark SONG yet. At the end of the day it's about the music and for this reason there's no comparison.  |
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whodknee said: has had great albums whereas Britney hasn't even had a good trademark SONG yet.
At the end of the day it's about the music and for this reason there's no comparison.  All of Janet's albums have at least almost every song being worth a listen. While Britney's its like hit and miss, especially the first album and Britney.
Britney doesnt re-invent herself. She has had that same ol' look since she first came out. When was the last time she cut her hair short, waved it, curled it, dyed it different colors? Janet took riskes and all of them were pretty good (except for the hair on the album cover). Britney has no personal records or speaks about anything relevant, none of her albums are classics, and she was supposed 2 have grown 2 times already (by being sexual), please. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Could Britney handle ballads like "Again", "Let's Wait Awhile" or "Where are you now"? I think not.
Janet may not be the greatest singer in the world, but the sista has range and knows how to use it to the best of her ability. Janet's vocals sound good IMO on Damita Jo particularly "Sexhibition", "Spending Time with you", and "Island Life". |
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i have to agree with rialb and revolution, both are dancing fi-fis/"entertainers" who have very little in the way of musical chops but are a lotta fun to look at. of course,they dance very well but still... Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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Rhondab said: togdog said: the difference these days?
Britney has more class and more ambition to put out a worthwhile album Class ??? did you watch that concert...she is a nasty ass hoe who plays innocent (ok..I know that was mean but....). I sorta miss the hoes who say...Damn it...I'mma hoe....I'mma sing about being hoe, I'mma look like a hoe and teach about hoedom.... That chile ain't got no class.... please keep me off the org in the morning...i'm really mean well yes, that's sort of my point. Janet wants to be that kind of ho... she's just not very good on the follow-through. she wants to reap all the benefits of being a straight-up skanky pop star without taking the lumps as well "...from the ashes." the ALL-NEW, ALL-DIFFERENT Aaron! on sale now! | |
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Good producers perhaps ?
Im a big Janet fan but theres no denying janet doesnt have a strong voice but her voice sounds good, Someone certainly knows how to work her vocals cos i heard her live and well they are not all that. some of the tracks on Damita Jo really do show how janets vocals are smooth though. Some of her efforts without jimmy and terry have been awful (i.e what i'll do), but, of course she wrote Black cat by herself which i guess shows its not all down to JJ&T The only difference IMO is that most of us here grew up listening to janet and janet has a lot of charisma and presence whereas i dont see that in Britney, but shes only young maybe it will come to her eventually... | |
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VoicesCarry said: No offense, but can you start just ONE thread with a positive headline?
So far we've had: Sgt. Pepper's is garbage! Paul McCartney is a Punk! George Harrison in the Hall of Fame? Anyway, differences between Janet and Britney: 1) Janet has a voice. Britney doesn't. Ever heard Britney sing live? There's a reason for that. 2) Janet is quite involved in the creation of her music. She writes many of her own lyrics and does vocal and rhythm arrangement. She's comfortable with Jam & Lewis as collaborators because they work well together. Do we rip Michael Jackson because he worked with Quincy Jones a lot? No. BTW, most major stars couldn't do much on their own without producers. But producing your own material is not a requirement of being a vocalist or an entertainer. And even good producers can't make Britney sound adequate. 3) Janet does not whore herself "tremendously". Christ, she's one of the most private celebs, and I give her props for that. You don't hear zip about her outside of her promotional periods. We weren't even informed about her marriage. You might say that any celebrity by definition is a "whore", since they're always selling facsimiles of themselves to the public. Then Janet is one of the least "whorish".
4) Britney has the intelligence of a turnip. Ever heard Britney talk? Seriously. "I want to go to a lot of overseas places, like Canada". Someone should put her out of her misery. When she tries to sound sexy, she only manages to sound clumsy. 5) 4 albums in and Britney has not put out anything even remotely as good as Control, RN1814, The Velvet Rope or janet. Britney is proof that working with uber-producers will only get you so far in terms of quality. At some point you need to back it up with talent. I believe Janet has accomplished that. [This message was edited Fri Apr 2 16:49:24 2004 by VoicesCarry] I applaud you, VoicesCarry. | |
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whodknee said: I don't believe any of these ladies have written anything-- minimal input at best-- and the same can be said about Michael, Justin, and many men too. Nevertheless Janet has had great albums whereas Britney hasn't even had a good trademark SONG yet.
um... please don't compare MJ to Justin. While I do agree he gets too much credit as a musician, he does have creative imput. Early songs like "Don't Stop", "Working Day n' Night", "Billie Jean", "Beat it" etc.. were 80% MJ. And later songs like "Stranger in Moscow", "Money", "They Don't Care about us" are 100% MJ. JT has only wirtten some terribly cliche' lyrics. | |
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