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Thread started 03/26/04 4:01pm

rialb

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George Harrison in the Hall of Fame?

Am I crazy or is it a joke that George Harrison got inducted into the R & R HOF as a solo artist? What, exactly, did he accomplish since 1970? I'll admit that All Things Must Pass is 3/4 of a great album, but other than that his music isn't very good. Really, other than Cloud Nine he didn't do much in the last 25 years. So commercially he's a dud. What about artistically? Who did he influence? I know there are many Beatle fans out there wanting my head on a pike but I really don't believe anyone can make a case for him. Who's next, Ringo?
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Reply #1 posted 03/26/04 4:40pm

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rialb said:

Am I crazy or is it a joke that George Harrison got inducted into the R & R HOF as a solo artist? What, exactly, did he accomplish since 1970? I'll admit that All Things Must Pass is 3/4 of a great album, but other than that his music isn't very good. Really, other than Cloud Nine he didn't do much in the last 25 years. So commercially he's a dud. What about artistically? Who did he influence? I know there are many Beatle fans out there wanting my head on a pike but I really don't believe anyone can make a case for him. Who's next, Ringo?


C'mon ZZ Top got in for phunks sake. The only criteria for getting into the hall these days is if your career lasts for 25 yrs & you still have a pulse or your a former member of a great "group" ala the beatles & have passed on.
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Reply #2 posted 03/26/04 5:09pm

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AH HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

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rialb said:

Am I crazy or is it a joke that George Harrison got inducted into the R & R HOF as a solo artist? What, exactly, did he accomplish since 1970? I'll admit that All Things Must Pass is 3/4 of a great album, but other than that his music isn't very good. Really, other than Cloud Nine he didn't do much in the last 25 years. So commercially he's a dud. What about artistically? Who did he influence? I know there are many Beatle fans out there wanting my head on a pike but I really don't believe anyone can make a case for him. Who's next, Ringo?
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Reply #3 posted 03/26/04 5:19pm

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Dauphin said:

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

wacky


rialb said:

Am I crazy or is it a joke that George Harrison got inducted into the R & R HOF as a solo artist? What, exactly, did he accomplish since 1970? I'll admit that All Things Must Pass is 3/4 of a great album, but other than that his music isn't very good. Really, other than Cloud Nine he didn't do much in the last 25 years. So commercially he's a dud. What about artistically? Who did he influence? I know there are many Beatle fans out there wanting my head on a pike but I really don't believe anyone can make a case for him. Who's next, Ringo?


Okay, I guess you vote that I'm crazy. But you didn't give me any reasons for George to be a hall of famer. Couldn't think of any, eh? No surprise there!
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Reply #4 posted 03/26/04 5:20pm

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Farfunknugin said:

rialb said:

Am I crazy or is it a joke that George Harrison got inducted into the R & R HOF as a solo artist? What, exactly, did he accomplish since 1970? I'll admit that All Things Must Pass is 3/4 of a great album, but other than that his music isn't very good. Really, other than Cloud Nine he didn't do much in the last 25 years. So commercially he's a dud. What about artistically? Who did he influence? I know there are many Beatle fans out there wanting my head on a pike but I really don't believe anyone can make a case for him. Who's next, Ringo?


C'mon ZZ Top got in for phunks sake. The only criteria for getting into the hall these days is if your career lasts for 25 yrs & you still have a pulse or your a former member of a great "group" ala the beatles & have passed on.


Nooooo! Damn, does that mean Ringo is going to get in?
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Reply #5 posted 03/26/04 5:20pm

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There was that obscure little Concert for Bangladesh thing he did, and a couple of indie label side projects with unknowns like Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison...but other than that, and a few records here and there and a couple of movies he produced, and the legacy of being a singer/songwriter who got his start as a member of The Beatles (flash in the pan one hit wonders!!!), I can't see how he got inducted. shrug
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Reply #6 posted 03/26/04 5:25pm

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Anxiety said:

There was that obscure little Concert for Bangladesh thing he did, and a couple of indie label side projects with unknowns like Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison...but other than that, and a few records here and there and a couple of movies he produced, and the legacy of being a singer/songwriter who got his start as a member of The Beatles (flash in the pan one hit wonders!!!), I can't see how he got inducted. shrug


I'll give you the concert for Bangladesh. But the Wilburies was a group. That shouldn't have anything to do with his accomplishments as a solo artist. Movies? Nothing to do with music. He's already in as a member of the Beatles. As a solo artist I don't think he accomplished anything special. Basically he coasted through life as a former Beatle.

My point was that if he deserves it who doesn't deserve it? I don't dislike the man, or some of his music, but if he wasn't a former Beatle would we ever have even heard of him? Maybe, but not likely in my opinion.
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Reply #7 posted 03/26/04 5:27pm

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Anxiety said:

There was that obscure little Concert for Bangladesh thing he did, and a couple of indie label side projects with unknowns like Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison...but other than that, and a few records here and there and a couple of movies he produced, and the legacy of being a singer/songwriter who got his start as a member of The Beatles (flash in the pan one hit wonders!!!), I can't see how he got inducted. shrug


Wait....Shanghai Surprise got him inducted to the R&RHOF? Five more years and Madonna's IN, baby!
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Reply #8 posted 03/26/04 6:31pm

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well..this is paul's induction is proof that prince and the revolution will get it... giggle
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Reply #9 posted 03/26/04 6:32pm

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Personally, I agree with you. Although it's not something that bugs me, considering lesser folks are in the RRHall too. Basically, I pretty much believe him being in the Beatles is what got him inducted as a solo artist. Had his career consisted of nothing but his solo output, I doubt voters would have voted him in. But I don't begrudge his induction.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #10 posted 03/26/04 7:10pm

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Personally, I agree with you. Although it's not something that bugs me, considering lesser folks are in the RRHall too. Basically, I pretty much believe him being in the Beatles is what got him inducted as a solo artist. Had his career consisted of nothing but his solo output, I doubt voters would have voted him in. But I don't begrudge his induction.

No disrespect intended but I think he got inducted because he died recently. It's that age old practise of respecting an artist only after they are gone - happens all the time, how many of you bought Nirvana , 2Pac , Jeff Buckley albums only after their deaths? It's also a good publicity exercise for the RRHOF as everyone pays attention to all thing Beatle.
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Reply #11 posted 03/26/04 7:18pm

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pacey68 said:

Supernova said:

Personally, I agree with you. Although it's not something that bugs me, considering lesser folks are in the RRHall too. Basically, I pretty much believe him being in the Beatles is what got him inducted as a solo artist. Had his career consisted of nothing but his solo output, I doubt voters would have voted him in. But I don't begrudge his induction.

No disrespect intended but I think he got inducted because he died recently. It's that age old practise of respecting an artist only after they are gone - happens all the time, how many of you bought Nirvana , 2Pac , Jeff Buckley albums only after their deaths? It's also a good publicity exercise for the RRHOF as everyone pays attention to all thing Beatle.


Damn, you got me on all three! I didn't know who Jeff Buckley was until '98, thank you Nicole. Nirvana I didn't get into until '99. Too much hype after his suicide. A friend got me to listen to some of the popier stuff and I liked it. 2Pac I just got into. Usually I hate rap. But he was definitely special.
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Reply #12 posted 03/26/04 7:21pm

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pacey68 said:

Supernova said:

Personally, I agree with you. Although it's not something that bugs me, considering lesser folks are in the RRHall too. Basically, I pretty much believe him being in the Beatles is what got him inducted as a solo artist. Had his career consisted of nothing but his solo output, I doubt voters would have voted him in. But I don't begrudge his induction.

No disrespect intended but I think he got inducted because he died recently. It's that age old practise of respecting an artist only after they are gone - happens all the time, how many of you bought Nirvana , 2Pac , Jeff Buckley albums only after their deaths? It's also a good publicity exercise for the RRHOF as everyone pays attention to all thing Beatle.

You definitely have a point. Although, I personally don't have a habit of buying an artist's work because of their recent death(s), what you say has validity to it in general terms.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #13 posted 03/26/04 7:42pm

Anxiety

Has anyone who's posted to this thread ever HEARD "All Things Must Pass" all the way through?

All I'm sayin' is, first Number One album by an ex-Beatle....and it was a three-album set.
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Reply #14 posted 03/26/04 8:03pm

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Anxiety said:

Has anyone who's posted to this thread ever HEARD "All Things Must Pass" all the way through?

All I'm sayin' is, first Number One album by an ex-Beatle....and it was a three-album set.


Yup, I said it was 3/4 of a great album. I didn't care for the instrumental side. But it is definitely worth a listen. But I think that All Things Must Pass, Living In The Material World and Cloud Nine are the only great Harrison solo albums. Most of the rest are pretty mediocre, in my opinion.
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Reply #15 posted 03/26/04 8:28pm

Anxiety

Here's a better question then: What would you consider appropriate standards for induction in the RNRHOF?
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Reply #16 posted 03/26/04 8:41pm

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George was a pretty influential artist and songwriter and guitarist, even outside of the Beatles. I would say he's deserving, considering some of the others in the R&R Hall of Fame.

All Things Must Pass is one of the great albums of the early 70's. He's had other strong moments here and there, although probably no other album was consistently high quality. But if Traffic deserves in, then George Harrison does.
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Reply #17 posted 03/26/04 9:09pm

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Anxiety said:

Here's a better question then: What would you consider appropriate standards for induction in the RNRHOF?


I might have to shut my mouth now. I don't know about standards. I guess a certain level of commercial success and/or a great deal of artististic success. Really I should have done some home work so I could say this person deserves to be there in place of George Harrison. But I'm lazy and I didn't do that. But the point I was trying to make is that a) if he were never a Beatle he wouldn't be there based on his accomplishments as a solo artist and b) anyone who can stick around for 20 plus years deserves to be there (based on what George accomplished in his career.) I've never been to the Hall of Fame and I know very little about it but it must be awfully crowded! But in the future I will try to do more researcg before I shoot off my mouth. I admit that he's done some great work, but there was so little of it.
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Reply #18 posted 03/26/04 9:39pm

pacey68

Mmmm... don't know what the requirements are to get into The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame ( apart from a career of over 25 years) but George Harrison had a high level of "fame" in the world of "Rock & Roll" so maybe that's how he got in there? Whatever, the guy was a Beatle and he wrote some classic songs, even if he wasn't as good in later years let's give the guy his due.
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