Hey okaypimpin..... I will agree to disagree on the Pino vs Ralph.

Thank's for the response..

If you like bass, you might have these already but here goes:

Jamiroquai Space Cowboy... Stuart Zender. great grooves.
anything Chic..... anything old Chaka with ANthony Jackson.

I also love Vic Wooten ... who IMO is the most talented bassist I have have ever heard. Check out a show of hands to see what I am talking about.

ride on!!!!!


in reply to the mainstream bit from Nova..... I guess you could say Beck and D'Angelo operate in somewhat of the mtV media machine... but Zappa never and Prince not anymore.

as for raphael; he's a good bassplayer, but nothing compared to pino.

purpleone said:

Are you guys really serious????

okaypimpn said:

Raphael's a bad muthafuya but I don't think he's touching Pino Either...not live at least.

The Voodoo album was the shit!!!! The only thing I would've changed about it was ?uestloves boring ass drumming and replaced Pino's classical style of bass playing with more of Raphael's funky style, but other than that I wore the hell outta that CD (even broke my first copy ).

okaypimpn said:

I agree, that album was SHIT! I too broke my copy, when I tossed it out the window of a moving vehicle!

D'Angelo had the audacity to call out Prince, and claim that that disc was his "audition" to produce him. As much as I think NPS and Rave were crap albums, they're fucking brilliant compared to the steaming pile of turds that was "Voodoo" (shoulda called it "Doodoo"). One of the worst albums I've ever heard by an artist I respect. Boring, missing any semblence of soul or funk. The whole disc sounds like a couple of kids playing with bad loops! One of my least favorite albums EVER!!!!!

I respect everyones opinion.. but I see it a little diff.

D'Angelos first album I slept on since I said to myself here is a Marvin and Stevie impersonator with a little hip hop flavor. I later gave in and said hey this is a good album..... Nothing groundbreaking but still better than the other junk out there.

I agree

Second album got first day and I think I actualy posted here that it was the album of risks and non pop efforts that prince should be doing. I posted under Alexander Nevermind if I remember correctly... ( I became fed up with false promises from Prince and left the board)

It was definitely an album of risks, but that doesn't make it a good album

I dig Raphael but Pino is a top notch musician who emulates James Jamerson so well it has becomes his trademark. Would you say Raph could out groove Jamerson?
So Raphel vs pino... no comparison. IMO the basslines are fantastic.

The bass was about the only decent thing on this disc

Charlie Hunter's guitar is superb.....

Superbly boring

?uestlove's drumming is damn good..... I love rim shots and I love how they stretched out and grew as musicians.....Is he Terry Bozzio no but he is a respectable musician who actually knows where music came from to allow him to grow

?uestlove can play much better than he did on this album. he truly didn't try on this one.

Are the compositions harder to find the melody yes... but does that make the recording bad or is your expectations that bring it down. Hey as far as I am concerned if you want Brown Sugar each time go Purchase " I want U and here my dear" Throw in a little FFF by Stevie and there you go. D'Angelo relised this and took a step out on the ledge... I applaud.

NO FRIGGIN' MELODY!!! I agree that he shouldn't have done the same thing with this disc that he did with "Brown Sugar", but he truly could have tried to flesh out these so-called songs and at least a bit. As it is, they are sparse beats with half singing on most tracks. If he stepped out "on the ledge" with this, then he obviously slipped and fell off!

As far as a fall our between D and Prince who cares.... D and ?uest are huge fans who like some of us want some more interesting tracks.. sorry rave the album didn't do it for me.

Sorry, but this one didn't do it for me either. Rave sucked, but at least there was some semblance of melody

cookie cutter artists are boring. I mean I just was listening to Alicia's 1st and second singles from the lates album. Where's the growth... She puts out and album that well to be frank is textbook 70's soul, same as the first album
Maybe the album goes deeper but as far as singles..... nothing new or innovative other then the fact that she is a young woman in a predominately man's world and plays an instrument.

I agree, but putting out a half-baked album, just to claim that you were trying to go against expectations doesn't make it good.


Bottom line: I will pick an artist like D"angelo even if he canceled both shows I had tix too on the Voodoo tour, or Prince when he took risks, zappa, beck , etc over a formula following mass marketed piece o' crap.

Just because it isn't formulaic, doesn't mean it isn't crap as well. The D'Angelo album was majorly marketed to the masses as well.



. Look @ Prince Purple Rain into ATWIAD... He wanted to alienate people.

But at least ATWIAD had some melodies, and was actually a pretty solid album. "Voodoo" is just a bunch of tepid beats, with no real songwriting to speak of

JediMaster said:

huh?

you serious?

okaypimpn said:

I agree, that album was SHIT! I too broke my copy, when I tossed it out the window of a moving vehicle!

D'Angelo had the audacity to call out Prince, and claim that that disc was his "audition" to produce him. As much as I think NPS and Rave were crap albums, they're fucking brilliant compared to the steaming pile of turds that was "Voodoo" (shoulda called it "Doodoo"). One of the worst albums I've ever heard by an artist I respect. Boring, missing any semblence of soul or funk. The whole disc sounds like a couple of kids playing with bad loops! One of my least favorite albums EVER!!!!!

JediMaster said:

Are you finished?

okaypimpn said:

So, I can't express my opinion if it isn't gushing over this disc like y'all did?

JediMaster said:

Are you finished?

okaypimpn said:

d'angelo is!

okaypimpn said:

d'angelo is!

Ashtheking said:

okaypimpn said:

d'angelo is!

i think 'voodoo' is a solid album.

i praise d'angelo for not selling out on his sophomore album.

he gave us an album with original music by great musicians.

he could've easily made 'brown sugar 2'---but he didn't.

.

Ashtheking said:

How do you figure? With Voodoo he had one of the best received/reviewed tours in a decade etc. And when he releases his next he will also go top ten etc. What do you mena, "finished"? Lazy yes lol, but not "finished".

SENSHY said:

Maybe he's busy buffing up for his next "camera-pans-around-my-naked-torso" video. It would take me years to get into that kind of shape.

I agree, that album was SHIT! I too broke my copy, when I tossed it out the window of a moving vehicle!

D'Angelo had the audacity to call out Prince, and claim that that disc was his "audition" to produce him. As much as I think NPS and Rave were crap albums, they're fucking brilliant compared to the steaming pile of turds that was "Voodoo" (shoulda called it "Doodoo"). One of the worst albums I've ever heard by an artist I respect. Boring, missing any semblence of soul or funk. The whole disc sounds like a couple of kids playing with bad loops! One of my least favorite albums EVER!!!!!

okaypimpn said:

I agree, that album was SHIT! I too broke my copy, when I tossed it out the window of a moving vehicle!

Boring, missing any semblence of soul or funk.

VoicesCarry said:

From all acocunts he regrets doing that. I read someting where he had regressed into being lazy etc. because he was freaked how his body became the focus and his musicianship was overlooked. It supposedly put him in a blue funk. He claims he stopped working out etc lol. If anything he is gettin high and eating. But from some other reports, it seems like he is beginning to make some strides in the studio, which included collaborating with Saddiq last year etc. 2uest has even stated that they have talked and patche dthigs up so maybe he got his mind clear again and is starting to get busy ( marijuana is a motivational-ceasing drug).

I agree, that album was SHIT! I too broke my copy, when I tossed it out the window of a moving vehicle!

D'Angelo had the audacity to call out Prince, and claim that that disc was his "audition" to produce him. As much as I think NPS and Rave were crap albums, they're fucking brilliant compared to the steaming pile of turds that was "Voodoo" (shoulda called it "Doodoo"). One of the worst albums I've ever heard by an artist I respect. Boring, missing any semblence of soul or funk. The whole disc sounds like a couple of kids playing with bad loops! One of my least favorite albums EVER!!!!!

JediMaster said:

There goes your credibility lol..but you wouldnt understand