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Printablesosgemini said: VoicesCarry said: There are several possible reasons: a) Virgin is a company full of dumbasses (probable). OR b) The album just isn't so hot after all, and this really is the best they have (possible...every artist has a downturn at one time or another). OR c) Some combination of both. I don't think I'll be buying this album, as things are. I'll download it and if I like more than 5 tracks, I'll purchase it. I really love Janet and own tons of her stuff, but I guess I'm not as devoted as members like JanFan4L or VelvetRoper. I can't convince myself that either of these singles are hot. And so far the promotional strategy makes it sound like the people at Virgin heard the album and said "oh shit, what the fuck do we do with this?". As things are, I think with each passing day this project looks more and more like Janet's American Life. "Just A Little While" peaked at no. 45, which is abominable for an artist of Janet's stature. "I Want You" is struggling on the R&B singles chart (it hasn't even charted on the Hot 100). 2 videos and 2 first singles - Virgin is desperate. Which one to air, which one is which? The public is rejecting this project. Radio producers are openly laughing at JALW on the air ("It sounds like a jingle for some two-bit restaurant in southern Texas"). Virgin would be sensible to delay it a month, release a good single (or does one not exist, perhaps?) and give it a chance. Otherwise, it's doomed to long-term failure. But so what? Janet will come back with a bang if this does indeed tank. She'll have to work to rebuild her casual fan base, but in can be done. [This message was edited Sat Mar 13 11:47:34 2004 by VoicesCarry] i really dont like the fact that you so easily admit that your going to download five tracks off an album...i dont care who the artist is, its a bad judge of character on your part... Uh, it's called previewing the album before you buy it? I delete the tracks if I hate it. I spend tons of $$$$ on CDs, so who are you tell me that it's wrong to preview it that way? I do NOT keep the tracks on my computer. If I buy the album, I rip my own mp3s. But yes, I will share OUT OF PRINT discs with other fans I know. I do not see how that cuts into the artist's profit-margin, considering the items are no longer available for sale. And while you're at it, why don't you go lecture the price-fixing, low-royalty, anti-artistic-development record labels. [This message was edited Sun Mar 14 14:33:40 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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sosgemini said: Cute song..thanks for the link...
Keep: That cute ass boy Dump: Your Hairstylist Dump: Your Wardrobe person Dump: Who ever told you to make that video.... poor janet..the song is worthy being a minor hit but....that video ruins it...trying to hard....and those clothes..and that wig? oye!! she should have been in a classy adult outfit and had a bjorkish video..people would have died and said this song rocked!! with a weak video, blah!! Damn, I haven't even SEEN the video (just stills) and I'm not really a fan, but that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw the pics from the video.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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SHE FELL And like His promise is true
only my faith can undo the many chances I blew-R.I.P. Left Eye | |
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PinkPeach said: SHE FELL
I know, it's cute! | |
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Definitely sounds better than AFY! | |
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VoicesCarry said: Definitely sounds better than AFY!
So far it definitely does! What do you think of "All Night" in particular? | |
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theVelvetRoper said: VoicesCarry said: Definitely sounds better than AFY!
So far it definitely does! What do you think of "All Night" in particular? I like it (a lot) but my favourite so far is definitely "Thinkin' About My Ex". When the album drops I'll be wearing that one out. | |
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VoicesCarry said: theVelvetRoper said: So far it definitely does! What do you think of "All Night" in particular? I like it (a lot) but my favourite so far is definitely "Thinkin' About My Ex". When the album drops I'll be wearing that one out. :nods: I really love the lyrics to "Thinkin' Bout My Ex". Yes, this album is going to be better than All For You.  | |
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VoicesCarry said:[quote] Funk said: I think this is a horrible video...especially for the first one off a new album...very half-assed and a total waste. I am soooo bummed the way things are going with this project. She has the opportunity to take it to the next level considering all eyes are on her now....and she releases a weak song and video. I think this may be the worst video she has ever done...along the lines of "Go Deep" and "Because of Love".
Thank god they are not releasing this video in the US. I hope the video for "I Want You" is better...though I am certain that song will not be a hit for her either. I just don't get it...why are they releasing songs that are weak singles? Maybe she does not care about the charts at this point in her career...thought I know she is a very competitive person by nature. Does it require a rocket scientist to guide Virgin/janet on what kind of single they should release to launch an album? Geeez! There are several possible reasons: a) Virgin is a company full of dumbasses (probable). OR b) The album just isn't so hot after all, and this really is the best they have (possible...every artist has a downturn at one time or another). OR c) Some combination of both. I don't think I'll be buying this album, as things are. I'll download it and if I like more than 5 tracks, I'll purchase it. I really love Janet and own tons of her stuff, but I guess I'm not as devoted as members like JanFan4L or VelvetRoper. I can't convince myself that either of these singles are hot. And so far the promotional strategy makes it sound like the people at Virgin heard the album and said "oh shit, what the fuck do we do with this?". As things are, I think with each passing day this project looks more and more like Janet's American Life. "Just A Little While" peaked at no. 45, which is abominable for an artist of Janet's stature. "I Want You" is struggling on the R&B singles chart (it hasn't even charted on the Hot 100). 2 videos and 2 first singles - Virgin is desperate. Which one to air, which one is which? The public is rejecting this project. Radio producers are openly laughing at JALW on the air ("It sounds like a jingle for some two-bit restaurant in southern Texas"). Virgin would be sensible to delay it a month, release a good single (or does one not exist, perhaps?) and give it a chance. Otherwise, it's doomed to long-term failure. But so what? Janet will come back with a bang if this does indeed tank. She'll have to work to rebuild her casual fan base, but in can be done. Janet is experiencing a slight backlash with this album.It's not really a big deal (every longtime artist goes through a "down" period,Prince fans know this better than anyone) and she will surely bounce back.But so far,it doesn't look like these first two singles are taking off.Now would have been a perfect time for Janet to really evolve and try something new (how about a loud rock album,or a stunning electroclash album?....ANYTHING but another sex-themed R&B album).There are already too many other "divas" making sexy R&B music right now (Beyonce,Kelis,etc). [This message was edited Mon Mar 15 5:56:49 2004 by DavidEye] | |
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Nice 2 see that Last Samurai/Superbowl/Nipplegate outfit again...  [This message was edited Mon Mar 15 23:10:43 2004 by RonnyRon2000] | |
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"Virgin would be sensible to delay it a month,release a good single and give it a chance"
They've already released two singles!! Wouldn't it look kinda silly to release three singles BEFORE an album even comes out? | |
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don't forget about the making of 'i want you' tonight on bet. i think it's 9pm est but i'm not exactly sure. | |
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DavidEye said:[quote] VoicesCarry said: Funk said: I think this is a horrible video...especially for the first one off a new album...very half-assed and a total waste. I am soooo bummed the way things are going with this project. She has the opportunity to take it to the next level considering all eyes are on her now....and she releases a weak song and video. I think this may be the worst video she has ever done...along the lines of "Go Deep" and "Because of Love".
Thank god they are not releasing this video in the US. I hope the video for "I Want You" is better...though I am certain that song will not be a hit for her either. I just don't get it...why are they releasing songs that are weak singles? Maybe she does not care about the charts at this point in her career...thought I know she is a very competitive person by nature. Does it require a rocket scientist to guide Virgin/janet on what kind of single they should release to launch an album? Geeez! There are several possible reasons: a) Virgin is a company full of dumbasses (probable). OR b) The album just isn't so hot after all, and this really is the best they have (possible...every artist has a downturn at one time or another). OR c) Some combination of both. I don't think I'll be buying this album, as things are. I'll download it and if I like more than 5 tracks, I'll purchase it. I really love Janet and own tons of her stuff, but I guess I'm not as devoted as members like JanFan4L or VelvetRoper. I can't convince myself that either of these singles are hot. And so far the promotional strategy makes it sound like the people at Virgin heard the album and said "oh shit, what the fuck do we do with this?". As things are, I think with each passing day this project looks more and more like Janet's American Life. "Just A Little While" peaked at no. 45, which is abominable for an artist of Janet's stature. "I Want You" is struggling on the R&B singles chart (it hasn't even charted on the Hot 100). 2 videos and 2 first singles - Virgin is desperate. Which one to air, which one is which? The public is rejecting this project. Radio producers are openly laughing at JALW on the air ("It sounds like a jingle for some two-bit restaurant in southern Texas"). Virgin would be sensible to delay it a month, release a good single (or does one not exist, perhaps?) and give it a chance. Otherwise, it's doomed to long-term failure. But so what? Janet will come back with a bang if this does indeed tank. She'll have to work to rebuild her casual fan base, but in can be done. Janet is experiencing a slight backlash with this album.It's not really a big deal (every longtime artist goes through a "down" period,Prince fans know this better than anyone) and she will surely bounce back.But so far,it doesn't look like these first two singles are taking off.Now would have been a perfect time for Janet to really evolve and try something new (how about a loud rock album,or a stunning electroclash album?....ANYTHING but another sex-themed R&B album).There are already too many other "divas" making sexy R&B music right now (Beyonce,Kelis,etc). [This message was edited Mon Mar 15 5:56:49 2004 by DavidEye] I'd hate to say this but it sounds like a lot of your opinion is based on what radio is thinking...and that's just stinking thinking! I mean look at the Top Ten! It's basically a white girl pop song, a thinly veiled Chirstian rock anthem and the other 8 spots being taken up by 'Lil John sound alikes. Radio is terrible and while I don't think "Just A Little While" is amazing, its better than most of that crap! The video certaintly makes matters worse though. | |
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VinnyM27 said: DavidEye said: There are several possible reasons: a) Virgin is a company full of dumbasses (probable). OR b) The album just isn't so hot after all, and this really is the best they have (possible...every artist has a downturn at one time or another). OR c) Some combination of both. I don't think I'll be buying this album, as things are. I'll download it and if I like more than 5 tracks, I'll purchase it. I really love Janet and own tons of her stuff, but I guess I'm not as devoted as members like JanFan4L or VelvetRoper. I can't convince myself that either of these singles are hot. And so far the promotional strategy makes it sound like the people at Virgin heard the album and said "oh shit, what the fuck do we do with this?". As things are, I think with each passing day this project looks more and more like Janet's American Life. "Just A Little While" peaked at no. 45, which is abominable for an artist of Janet's stature. "I Want You" is struggling on the R&B singles chart (it hasn't even charted on the Hot 100). 2 videos and 2 first singles - Virgin is desperate. Which one to air, which one is which? The public is rejecting this project. Radio producers are openly laughing at JALW on the air ("It sounds like a jingle for some two-bit restaurant in southern Texas"). Virgin would be sensible to delay it a month, release a good single (or does one not exist, perhaps?) and give it a chance. Otherwise, it's doomed to long-term failure. But so what? Janet will come back with a bang if this does indeed tank. She'll have to work to rebuild her casual fan base, but in can be done. Janet is experiencing a slight backlash with this album.It's not really a big deal (every longtime artist goes through a "down" period,Prince fans know this better than anyone) and she will surely bounce back.But so far,it doesn't look like these first two singles are taking off.Now would have been a perfect time for Janet to really evolve and try something new (how about a loud rock album,or a stunning electroclash album?....ANYTHING but another sex-themed R&B album).There are already too many other "divas" making sexy R&B music right now (Beyonce,Kelis,etc). [This message was edited Mon Mar 15 5:56:49 2004 by DavidEye] I'd hate to say this but it sounds like a lot of your opinion is based on what radio is thinking...and that's just stinking thinking! I mean look at the Top Ten! It's basically a white girl pop song, a thinly veiled Chirstian rock anthem and the other 8 spots being taken up by 'Lil John sound alikes. Radio is terrible and while I don't think "Just A Little While" is amazing, its better than most of that crap! The video certaintly makes matters worse though. That's a good point you make. "Just a Little While" isn't amazing as far as Janet songs go, but it's certainly better that most of what's been successful right now. I disagree about the video, though. It's also better than a lot out. | |
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VinnyM27 said: DavidEye said: There are several possible reasons: a) Virgin is a company full of dumbasses (probable). OR b) The album just isn't so hot after all, and this really is the best they have (possible...every artist has a downturn at one time or another). OR c) Some combination of both. I don't think I'll be buying this album, as things are. I'll download it and if I like more than 5 tracks, I'll purchase it. I really love Janet and own tons of her stuff, but I guess I'm not as devoted as members like JanFan4L or VelvetRoper. I can't convince myself that either of these singles are hot. And so far the promotional strategy makes it sound like the people at Virgin heard the album and said "oh shit, what the fuck do we do with this?". As things are, I think with each passing day this project looks more and more like Janet's American Life. "Just A Little While" peaked at no. 45, which is abominable for an artist of Janet's stature. "I Want You" is struggling on the R&B singles chart (it hasn't even charted on the Hot 100). 2 videos and 2 first singles - Virgin is desperate. Which one to air, which one is which? The public is rejecting this project. Radio producers are openly laughing at JALW on the air ("It sounds like a jingle for some two-bit restaurant in southern Texas"). Virgin would be sensible to delay it a month, release a good single (or does one not exist, perhaps?) and give it a chance. Otherwise, it's doomed to long-term failure. But so what? Janet will come back with a bang if this does indeed tank. She'll have to work to rebuild her casual fan base, but in can be done. Janet is experiencing a slight backlash with this album.It's not really a big deal (every longtime artist goes through a "down" period,Prince fans know this better than anyone) and she will surely bounce back.But so far,it doesn't look like these first two singles are taking off.Now would have been a perfect time for Janet to really evolve and try something new (how about a loud rock album,or a stunning electroclash album?....ANYTHING but another sex-themed R&B album).There are already too many other "divas" making sexy R&B music right now (Beyonce,Kelis,etc). [This message was edited Mon Mar 15 5:56:49 2004 by DavidEye] I'd hate to say this but it sounds like a lot of your opinion is based on what radio is thinking...and that's just stinking thinking! I mean look at the Top Ten! It's basically a white girl pop song, a thinly veiled Chirstian rock anthem and the other 8 spots being taken up by 'Lil John sound alikes. Radio is terrible and while I don't think "Just A Little While" is amazing, its better than most of that crap! The video certaintly makes matters worse though. Wrong. My opinion of a song does not depend on the opinion of radio programmers (otherwise why would I be on a prince.org site?). My statements about radio's reaction were made in my examination of the commercial prospects and the marketing of this record. Read it again | |
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VoicesCarry said: VinnyM27 said: I'd hate to say this but it sounds like a lot of your opinion is based on what radio is thinking...and that's just stinking thinking! I mean look at the Top Ten! It's basically a white girl pop song, a thinly veiled Chirstian rock anthem and the other 8 spots being taken up by 'Lil John sound alikes. Radio is terrible and while I don't think "Just A Little While" is amazing, its better than most of that crap! The video certaintly makes matters worse though. Wrong. My opinion of a song does not depend on the opinion of radio programmers (otherwise why would I be on a prince.org site?). My statements about radio's reaction were made in my examination of the commercial prospects and the marketing of this record. Read it again The marketing and promotion of this album have been awful. : | |
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 maybe it'll grow on me, but i didn't like it.  "Pedro offers you his protection." | |
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i bet if Just A Little While had the same beat of Lil' Johns bullshit singles and Usher's "yeah" it would be a #1 hit already 
top 40 radio..who needs it these days? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Who is she trying to be, black Jessica Simpson? Put down the sweeper and redo the image and record. It is sooooo going to tank. ---------------------------------
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Oh boy...  how old are you again, Janet? Plus she had on layers of makeup...wow. I liked the other video better then that one. &  | |
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the videos dull and boring but cute, i remember janet saying in some interview that she prefers her comeback videos to be kinda chilled and kinda ease her way back in rather than a dramatic flashy video. saying that the last amazing janet video i can think of is scream, the rest were just really good or watchable (with a few exceptions from velvet rope). for me i dont really like janet videos anymore or music vides in general as all they are about is pouting and showing off your body, thats why i prefer live performances cos im more into the dancing
it reminded me of the doesnt really matter video only not as good, the guy in it isnt that cute, theres no dancing, theres no real plot but its sweet i guess. janet looks good, looks like shes put on quite a bit of weight which i think suits her, in AFY she was looking kinda guant at times. | |
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Ok...so...I downloaded a few songs from the album becuase I was nervous for the project...and its AWESOME! Every song I have heard is really good and I don't know why they chose JALW and IWY as singles...those songs are the weakest from what I've heard. I am really excited now!!!
I saw the video last night for IWY and thought it was good...I think I like it because I know there is a solid album coming from her. If I saw that video a month ago, I would probably feel let down. But its nice not seeing some over the top video with a lot of costumes, heavy make-up, and trendy clothing (like A4U....or that horrible JALW). She looks very pretty and the video is a nice compliment to the song. But the album....WOW! THis is going to be a good one! I am waiting to buy it and will not download any other trackings.....though I am dying to! | |
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Funk said: Ok...so...I downloaded a few songs from the album becuase I was nervous for the project...and its AWESOME! Every song I have heard is really good and I don't know why they chose JALW and IWY as singles...those songs are the weakest from what I've heard. I am really excited now!!!
I saw the video last night for IWY and thought it was good...I think I like it because I know there is a solid album coming from her. If I saw that video a month ago, I would probably feel let down. But its nice not seeing some over the top video with a lot of costumes, heavy make-up, and trendy clothing (like A4U....or that horrible JALW). She looks very pretty and the video is a nice compliment to the song. But the album....WOW! THis is going to be a good one! I am waiting to buy it and will not download any other trackings.....though I am dying to! I know. I had to control myself not to listen to any of the songs, but I decided to satiate my Janet craving by picking one and listening to it... I listened to "All Night (Don't Stop)"... and it's incredible! It is soooo, sooooo good, and I listened to it all night! And, judging from the samples, all of the songs seem to be better than the singles! Janet and Virgin really had bad judgement on those, I'm surprised! | |
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theVelvetRoper said: VinnyM27 said: I'd hate to say this but it sounds like a lot of your opinion is based on what radio is thinking...and that's just stinking thinking! I mean look at the Top Ten! It's basically a white girl pop song, a thinly veiled Chirstian rock anthem and the other 8 spots being taken up by 'Lil John sound alikes. Radio is terrible and while I don't think "Just A Little While" is amazing, its better than most of that crap! The video certaintly makes matters worse though. That's a good point you make. "Just a Little While" isn't amazing as far as Janet songs go, but it's certainly better that most of what's been successful right now. I disagree about the video, though. It's also better than a lot out. The video is better than most (I think IWY is a little better though) but it certaintly doesn't help the song. I like the song a lot better than the video. BTW, it's really starting to look like IWY is the real first single since no one is picking up on ...somebody should tell Virgin! I also agree with you that all of the samples have been better than the singles thus far. What is up. BTW, did you hear the full song "All Night (Don't Stop)" or just the sample. The sample is kicking my ass! 3rd single for sure! If you heard the full song, could you tell me where? | |
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