For several weeks,I've been listening to the spectacular 4-CD James Brown box set "StarTime".I'm enjoying it tremendously and thanks guys for the recommendation

Disc Four is my favorite because it concentrates on the 70s,my favorite era for music (as if you didn't know that...lol).But there is one track "Hot (I Need To Be Loved,Loved,Loved)" that has the SAME exact music as David Bowie's hit "Fame"! Does anyone know the story behind this? I'm pretty sure that David's song came first (both songs were late-1975 hits).James' song is cool,and I assume it's meant to be some kind of "tribute" to David's super-funky hit?


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[This message was edited Mon Mar 8 6:22:43 2004 by DavidEye]

DavidEye said:

Yeah Dave...James lifted heavily from David Bowie's number one hit "Fame" for this track. Still a interesting track though.

BRO915 said:[quote]

DavidEye said:

Yeah,it's an interesting track.But I can't get over how much the groove sounds like "Fame".It almost sounds as if James sampled the David Bowie track.

Carlos Alomar explains:

Q: What exactly is the story on James Brown's "Hot (I Need to be Loved)"? His discography says it was released in the later part of 1975 the same year as Young Americans. However, "Fame" doesn't sound like the type of song two white guys from England would come up with. I know it was your riff from the cover of "Footstompin."


CA: It was my riff. That was all me getting all funky and stuff. David wasn't into that. First of all, because I'm a New York musician, I knew the musicians that played on the session ... They said he (James Brown) actually played the damn record in front of them. It was surprising to see David Bowie's reaction because he had great respect for James Brown as did I. So Bowie said `Let's see what kind of activity it gets. If it charts and does real good, then we'll sue him.' Come to find out, that record didn't do anything. Still, it was real flattering for David to have had James Brown steal from him.

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langebleu said:

thanks langebleu!

"Fame" doesn't sound like the type of song two white guys from England would come up with"


don't ask me why,but that line cracks me up

lol. damn James was a "Biter" lol he Bit Bt Expess's "Express" for the "Jb Monorail"

TheRealFiness said:

now that i think of it...he sure did! damn, james!

make me feel good when u say sweetest man alive...ehhh..bill me..count 1,2,3,4,5

james cracks me up...the original freestyler

And Prince bites from James aweful heavily these days.

From the liner notes of Dead on the Heavy Funk

"He was also fighting back. When David Bowie topped the charts in 1975 with 'Fame', a rock variation of the JB groove, Brown weighed in a few months later with 'Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved).' While it's a carbon copy of 'Fame', the Godfather argued that 'Fame' had copied him in the first place."

DavidEye said:

Maybe the Godfather figured it was his way of getting THE BIG PAYBACK for all of the people that "bit" his stuff in the past. (misdirected of course)

Can you say "Funky Drummer"?
(one of the most sampled drum loops, if not THE most, in hip-hop)

That's a great box set. The booklet has so much info on each track.
What did you think when you saw the musicians that played on "I Can't Stand Myself"?

"That's a great box set"


It sure is.I'm overwhelmed by all this music.