Supernova said:[quote]

EllisDee said:

actually, i wasn't talking about hard rock... i was just talking about rock bands in general... i see now that you wanted hard rock bands specifically... and chicago came afterwards (only by one year), but they still used a horn section first... ...

steve earle... you need him in your collection...

EllisDee said:

There ya go!

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Smashing Pumpkins
Alice In Chains
SoundGarden

EvilWhiteMale said:

You have 2 of my picks!! And I have Alice in Chains in my collection too Outside the political arena we're twinsies!!!

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[This message was edited Fri Mar 12 19:49:03 2004 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy]

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

CinisterCee said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

How about some metal?
Pantera
Superjoint Ritual
Down

Megadeth.....for good measure

garnis said:

To think about all the money and years I've wasted for it! Thank you for enlightening me! Now I now what good music is!

vgallo6 said:

Co-sign! Especially Down! They're AWESOME!

Namepeace, you should check out KMFDM. They're a German industrial band who uses elements of dance, R&B, metal, and lots of other stuff. They're really good and in reality they aren't TOO far removed from say, Prince or any of that kind of stuff. Well, I dont' think they are anyway. Check out "Angst."

Supernova said:

but we're gonna have to write this off as another okra... cause while i dig zep, i don't think i'll ever see them as being the innovators that you do... ...

you're still marrying me, though...

EllisDee said:

What?!!

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no idea what he's talking about, MinneG!

Supernova said:

EllisDee said:

Hey LS, tell me more about this guy (what to get, etc) - I heard about him in connection with my 2nd favorite artist, Lucinda Williams - thanks

jackflash said:

Shit, I love Lucinda Williams!! Do tell

minneapolisgenius said:

Now that the pimp is outta the picture, come over here and rap at your boy 'peace for a minute.

Do you like environmental records?

namepeace said:

namepeace said:

You mean like the kind with crickets chirpin' and water rushin'?



No, they just make we wanna go to the bathroom.

sinisterpentatonic said:

amen

if u watched the series about the blues

on pbs, u know that much of today's

rock and r & b music came directly from

the blues masters like blind willie johnson

and muddy waters

it's a crime how many of these legends

died penniless while many rock artists

who re did their tunes went on to super stardom

minneapolisgenius said:

then how 'bout a dark room, some Champale and a Sam Cook ah-bem?

namepeace said:

Champale?

EllisDee said:

It is possible to be a total asshole and still put out good music.

EllisDee said:

EllisDee, preach the gospel brother. Yes, you can get an Amen.
Everytime I looked at Page/Plant listed as the writers of the tunes you listed my PO meter would go off-scale.
I swore if I ever met them that there would be a "misunderstanding" (props to Bernie Mac).
This was a serious issue with me as I was a big John Bonham fan (that sound).

For namepeace:
This act would be hard to pidgeon-hole into just the rock category, but based on your other tastes in music you might consider some of the late Frank Zappa's material (Mothers of Invention in the early days). He's got a staggering number of albums to choose from (almost 60). Some might consider him an acquired taste. Definitely not mainstream. Here is someone, rock-related, who could accurately be called a composer. In this case rock is a very limiting term, as his writing ranged from free-form jams to very avant-garde modern classical music to jazz/rock/fusion, but this is how he's usually categorized in record stores. One of the first anti-rock star types whose material always had a large dose of humor.

Over the years here are some of the musicians he's had in his band:
Adrian Belew
Max Bennett
Terry Bozzio
Mike and Randy Brecker
Ronnie Cuber
Vinnie Colaiuta
George Duke
Aynsley Dunbar
Jean-Luc Ponty
Ian and Ruth Underwood
Steve Vai
Chad Wackerman

Jimi Hendrix and the Experience even guested one night in '67.

Well worth checking out.

"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." - Frank Zappa

minneapolisgenius said:

guess i should've kept that one on the down low, eh..?

jackflash said:

well, steve earle did a lot of the production work on "car wheels on a gravel road" as well as some harmonies, acoustic guitar, and harmonica... he's very much in the vein of lucinda, in that he is also an americana artist... i might say that he rocks harder...

steve is harder to pigeon-hole, i think... he's first album "guitar town" is a country-rock record, and one that should have turned the world on it's ass, especially considering the popularity of guy's like springsteen and whatnot... the songs on this album should make it one of the top 5 debuts of all-time... what holds it back is that he was forced to use session musicians, instead of his touring band, the dukes...

"exit o" second album - harder sound... using the dukes, but the songs aren't as strong...

with his next 2 albums "copperhead road" and "the hard way" he's into a very dark and very hard sound... you wouldn't know that this guy was recording in nashville just a few years earlier... and he wraps up his years at mca with the live album "shut up and die like an aviator" which is a really good album to pick up and get a summation of his early years... contains a great cover of "dead flowers" (better than the stones, in my opinion)...

prison for a while... steve was huge into heroin... he sold all of his guitars and moved to the ghetto and bought like 50 copies of dre's "the chronic"... nothing heard from in a while...

he is released from prison and starts his own label E-Squared... this is where he really starts to take off... "train a-comin'" is an acoustic album, which contains songs that he had written in the 70s before he was ever signed and covers... damn good album...

then he starts getting a little more electic with "feel alright" which is kinda like the sequal to his second album, but with a much better group of songs...

"el corazon" is the SHIT... plain and simple... steve's attempt to make a straight up rock & roll record... and he ends up with a mostly rock record... with a few blues tunes, a couple of acoustic folk numbers, a bluegrass song, and a 1950s country song... but mostly rock... this one features the supersuckers, emmylou harris, the fairfield four and some others, but the album is ALL STEVE... this is the one i started with, actually...

he promised that his next album would be all rock... and he released "the mountain" a bluegrass album recorded with the del mccoury band... ... damn good shit, if you like bluegrass...

comes back electric again with "transcendental blues" which is probalby his most musically diverse album... grunge, blues, psycadelia, folk, celtic, everything... this one is bad-ass...

next album is the odds and ends collection "sidetracks" but it plays like a coheasive album... features a lot of outtakes and soundtrack stuff... a lot of covers on this one also including little feat, the flying burrito brothers, bob dylan, and nirvana (yes, that nirvana - and he rocks that shit hard)...

"jerusalem" - his most controversial album thanks to the song "john walker's blues" about the american taliban... this albums rocks pretty damn hard and is touted as his political album... and the conseratives picked it apart... but to be honest, steve is unapologetically left-wing, and all of his albums convey this, and they've all been pretty damn political... he was called unpatriotic for this album... steve says, "i don't mind, because i'm pretty fuckin' sure that my definition of patriotic differs from that of my accusers"... ...

the last album that he put out was the double live "just an american boy" which catches him in the midst of all that controversy on the "jerusalem" tour... this one also kicks mucho ass... a lot of politcal commentary on this one...

there is a documentary on steve earle that was in theatres last year, that will be making an appearance on DVD soon... also called "just an american boy"... most recently steve was on the "tell us the truth" tour which was waging war against media consolidation, the war in iraq, and many other things...

i guess i would start with "el corazon" and "transcendental" blues, as those are my faves... and then, i would start from the beginning and work my way through so that you can see his progression... all of his albums are worth owning... if you have to skip any, though, skip "exit 0"...

EllisDee said:

Can't wait to check this dude out!

EllisDee said:

Fishbone- If you don't know you should!! 'Surroundings of my reality' & 'Give a monkey a brain' if you're feeling those
you have to pick up 'Truth and soul'

Weapon of choice - 'Bozo the town' and 'Hiperspice'

24-7 spyz - Strength in numbers

all of three of these bands are a hybrid of funk and rock, but shouldn't be overlooked.