everybody makes this big deal about how great this guy is and i think that i may be missing something. it seems to me that every song that he's involved with just has some old sped up song in the background. it's tiresome. has he done any songs that differ from that sped up old song formula?

This year's Sean Paul?

jessyMD32781 said:

Have u picked up the CD? That will definitley change your mind.

But if not. There is a awesum song called "Kanye's Workout Plan" track #11. it is Funky!

The whole album is not about that bullshit rap about ice, and rollin and all that bullshit. It is a must have rap album of this year.

paisleypark4 said:

i'm not picking up some cd that's full of sped up old songs. does track #11 have a sped up song in the background of it?

paisleypark4 said:

I agree. I love his album!

Kayne has produced tracks for l

Ludacris -Stand Up

Janet Jackson -I want You

Alicia Keys-You don't know my name

Jay z- Encore, H to the izz, Heart of the City. 03 Bonni and Clyde

Monica -Knock, Knock

NO high speed tracks in these.

Brothers pretty hot.

popgodazipa said:

He also produced Britney's "Me Against the Music".

THIS IS WHAT PISSED ME OFF..THE IGNORANCE OF PEOPLE. WHY DID SOMEONE HEAR HE PLAYIN CHAKA KHAN THROUGH THE FIRE AND SAY THAT CHAKA STOLE THAT FROM HIM AND RECORDED HER SONG A FEW MONTHS BACK TO TRY TO STEAL IT FROM HIM? THAT IS SOME BULL SHIT..I CANT STAND IT WHEN PEOPLE DONT KNOW MUSIC HISTORY

jessyMD32781 said:

He's different. I like his production. THat's what hip hop is...wait that's what post modernism is...the age we are living in. Taking old and making it new....among many other things.
Kanye's rhymes are not about guns, fighting, pushing rocks, ice, or cars. He rhymes about introspective things. Through the Wire makes a reference to Emmit Tiel (Forgive my spelling). In the album he talks about the cost of having things but an empty self esteem, family problems, and my favorite...Kanye's work out. I like him....you don't have to go deep into the woods like Andre 3000. He is right there on the cusp of introspective and hot "traditional" hip hop. I think he's quite a renaissance man (again, forgive my spelling).

He also performed at my entertainment summit in July...and almost weeks later...he exploded nationally....he's a weird guy, but brilliant.

If you like Kanye, I suggest you also take a listen to Little Brother, they're from my neck of the woods, Durham, NC. They were on MTV's you hear it first. Check out abbrecords.com and click on them. The industry's abuzz with them. 9th Wonder their producer, just did a track for Jay-Z's Black Album....They're making moves!

theVelvetRoper said:

But that stabs cooch

Pick up Jay-Z's the Dynasty album. The track "this can't be life" featuring Beans and Scarface. Kanye did it...I fell in love with his produciton when I heard this

KatSkrizzle said:

Love the shit outta that song & I like "To the Wire" too (or whatever it's called). Never thought about picking up the album but I might.

The scariest thing for me right now is that "You Don't Know My Name" is finally growing on me I think it's b/c Mos Def is in the video

VoicesCarry said:

feeling his production on the new Slum Village joint.

"Selfish" is from the soon to be released 'Detroit Deli (A Taste Of Detroit)' album

jazzvibrator said:

I like the Dialated Peoples joint too.
I'm always looking forward to new slum village projects

theVelvetRoper said:

that just killed it for me. all those other songs i like, but that britney song is

jessyMD32781 said:

A lot of the greatest hip-hop tracks have samples.

jessyMD32781 said:

I don't like it either, but it shows how diverse his music can be. "Me Against the Music" isn't like anything else he's done.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Most of the greatest hip-hop tracks have samples. That's hip-hop!!! Clearly this person doesn't know the history of rap music.

KatSkrizzle said:

love the Slum (just a lil'dirty detroit boy, i am)---but it just sucks that Dilla aint withem any longer

okaypimpn said:

i know that some of the greatest hip-hop songs have samples but it all in the way you use your samples. if you can be creative with it then that's cool but when it's the same old shit over and over and over, it can get tiresome. Example: "slow jamz" sped up old song in the background, 'through the wire" sped up old song in the background, "it all falls down" sped up old song in the background. add it all together and it equals tiresome and not some of the greatest hip hop of all time. you can dislike a hip hop artist or song and not dislike the entire genre. no need to be presumptive asshole, dearie.

jessyMD32781 said:

What the hell are you talking about?! "All Falls Down" is not sped up and it's an interpolation of Lauryn Hill's song "Mystery of Iniquity" which only came out a little over a year ago. How fuckin' creative can you get with looping a damn song? Please provide examples of what you're talking about because there really isn't that much creativity with sampling.

And by the way...



I accept your apology, shit for brains.

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jessyMD32781 said:

excuse my mistake, maybe i should have said that all of his songs sound the same and use the same formula. that was the point of my post. not that sampling isn't used in hip hop, just that his songs sound tired. if the rest of his album is supposed to be so great then why don;t they release one of the songs that sounds better or different? I do like 'through the wire' but it doesn;t sound that great after i've heard two or three other song that sound just like it.

anyway, i shouldn't even have responded to your insulting post that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic. I would have expected a reaction like that if this thread was bashing hip hop and rap music as a whole but it's out of place on a thread asking other's opinions about an artist and examples of his other work.

And what apology are you expecting? i posted the truth and i'm certainly not apologizing for that!

jessyMD32781 said:

Have you forgotten that he has two singles on the radio now ("Through The Wire" and "Slow Jamz")? And not to mention his album just came out two weeks ago. Is it time for a new single already?!

okaypimpn said:

where i live 'all falls down' has been out for a while and 'throught the wire' has been around for ages it seems. so that's three songs and, for me, i have to like two or three songs before i go buy an album.

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Gotcha.

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