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PrintableVoicesCarry said: SassierBritches said: davideye, i think you are mistaken there. got til it's gone was released before the cd even came out. it was the debut single and video from the album and, while single sales were not incredible, radio airplay and video rotation were on point. together again came out a month or so later but had been burning up the dance floor for a short while before its release. i don't think janet has released two singles at once before and cosidering the circumstances surrounding this go 'round..jalw being leaked and all...it probably wasn't planned and it is just an attempt to use it to janet's advantage. not a bad idea considering she'll have songs on both, urban and pop stations, without the use of a remix version. There is a reason record companies generally avoid releasing 2 singles at once - it splits airplay between them, resulting in lower chart placings for both AND it confuses listeners who now have to keep track of 2 songs ("I called in to request....what's that song called again?") by the same artist who they might not like in the first place (increasing the annoyance factor). This is more clumsy promotion on the part of Virgin, perhaps the worst label in the world. The strategy does work in special cases. For example, "Hey Ya!" and "The Way You Move" were promoted almost as if they were from different artists (Big Boi and Andre 3000), and they were therefore easily distinguished. The label is dropping the release strategy of having 1 single from each disc (Speakerboxxx/The Love Below) come out at the same time, and has chosen a song from Andre's disc. [This message was edited Fri Feb 27 8:49:22 2004 by VoicesCarry] i think they would have been smarter to release a hot dance track and leave jalw for the record buyers but i think i want you is a great song. unfortunately, without a pop remix it would not do well on pop radio. jalw has the same problem in reverse...without an rnb remix it won't get play on urban stations. i think they took the wrong road to combat this by releasing two singles...but, at least both audiences know she has work coming out. i think the real promotion these days relies on video and interview appearances anyway. radio seems toplay whatever's hot in those arenas. | |
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VoicesCarry said: theVelvetRoper said: "Got 'til it's Gone" was released before her album was released in September. "Together Again" was released in December. If you're going to criticize their "flawed strategy", at least get the facts straight. [This message was edited Fri Feb 27 8:16:28 2004 by theVelvetRoper] AND TVR was released in 1997  Very good! I didn't even catch that! | |
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SassierBritches said: VoicesCarry said: While I don't really like what she's done since then (most of AFY, the first two Damita Jo singles), it really shows her artistic potential when she tries something new. But she appears to be on autopilot lately, so I won't be buying the new album until I've heard it. There are several things she really needs to do if she wants to make a great record, though:
a) NO INTERLUDES - useless spacefillers b) TRIM THE ALBUM - we don't need 75 minutes to feel as if we've made a worthy purchase; even TVR was overlong, but this is a common fault of modern R&B records [This message was edited Fri Feb 27 8:40:27 2004 by VoicesCarry] i think the new disc has only 3 interludes. sometimes they are great mood shifters and sometimes they are kind of pointless...like the ones on all for you. as for tvr being too long...man, that album is absolutely perfect. even non-janet fans seem to love that one. its just a very deep record. i think the length was appropriate considering every track played a big part of the journey. yeah, yeah, yeah...sounds all cheesy, but its true. I agree! | |
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SassierBritches said: VoicesCarry said: There is a reason record companies generally avoid releasing 2 singles at once - it splits airplay between them, resulting in lower chart placings for both AND it confuses listeners who now have to keep track of 2 songs ("I called in to request....what's that song called again?") by the same artist who they might not like in the first place (increasing the annoyance factor). This is more clumsy promotion on the part of Virgin, perhaps the worst label in the world. The strategy does work in special cases. For example, "Hey Ya!" and "The Way You Move" were promoted almost as if they were from different artists (Big Boi and Andre 3000), and they were therefore easily distinguished. The label is dropping the release strategy of having 1 single from each disc (Speakerboxxx/The Love Below) come out at the same time, and has chosen a song from Andre's disc. [This message was edited Fri Feb 27 8:49:22 2004 by VoicesCarry] i think they would have been smarter to release a hot dance track and leave jalw for the record buyers but i think i want you is a great song. unfortunately, without a pop remix it would not do well on pop radio. jalw has the same problem in reverse...without an rnb remix it won't get play on urban stations. i think they took the wrong road to combat this by releasing two singles...but, at least both audiences know she has work coming out. i think the real promotion these days relies on video and interview appearances anyway. radio seems toplay whatever's hot in those arenas. Radio basically didn't play Britney spears for a 3 year stretch, 2001 to 2004, despite her media presence and titillating videos. She hasn't had a top 10 hit since 2000. They also don't play Michael Jackson anymore. It's very fickle. You need your song to stand out so people remember it. "I Want You" is too retro for modern radio and does not accomplish that IMHO. It sure is nice, but not terribly distinctive. | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassierBritches said: i think they would have been smarter to release a hot dance track and leave jalw for the record buyers but i think i want you is a great song. unfortunately, without a pop remix it would not do well on pop radio. jalw has the same problem in reverse...without an rnb remix it won't get play on urban stations. i think they took the wrong road to combat this by releasing two singles...but, at least both audiences know she has work coming out. i think the real promotion these days relies on video and interview appearances anyway. radio seems toplay whatever's hot in those arenas. Radio basically didn't play Britney spears for a 3 year stretch, 2001 to 2004, despite her media presence and titillating videos. She hasn't had a top 10 hit since 2000. They also don't play Michael Jackson anymore. It's very fickle. You need your song to stand out so people remember it. "I Want You" is too retro for modern radio and does not accomplish that IMHO. It sure is nice, but not terribly distinctive.  toxic didn't hit the top 10?! i could have sworn it was up there... | |
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SassierBritches said: VoicesCarry said: Radio basically didn't play Britney spears for a 3 year stretch, 2001 to 2004, despite her media presence and titillating videos. She hasn't had a top 10 hit since 2000. They also don't play Michael Jackson anymore. It's very fickle. You need your song to stand out so people remember it. "I Want You" is too retro for modern radio and does not accomplish that IMHO. It sure is nice, but not terribly distinctive. toxic didn't hit the top 10?! i could have sworn it was up there...It will (it's at #14 right now). "Toxic" will break her losing streak. But what of the next single? Nothing on the album comes close to "Toxic" quality-wise. | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassierBritches said: toxic didn't hit the top 10?! i could have sworn it was up there...It will (it's at #14 right now). "Toxic" will break her losing streak. But what of the next single? Nothing on the album comes close to "Toxic" quality-wise. i have to disagree. i don't particularly like her earlier releases (barring slave 4 u) but this cd is a lot of fun. other than the two obligatory ballads, i love every song on it. i think there a re a bunch of possibilities...especially breathe on me! | |
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SassierBritches said: VoicesCarry said: It will (it's at #14 right now). "Toxic" will break her losing streak. But what of the next single? Nothing on the album comes close to "Toxic" quality-wise. i have to disagree. i don't particularly like her earlier releases (barring slave 4 u) but this cd is a lot of fun. other than the two obligatory ballads, i love every song on it. i think there a re a bunch of possibilities...especially breathe on me! That might work. They'll probably choose that. Let's hope they don't pick "Outrageous", which sounds like Paris Hilton's theme song. [This message was edited Fri Feb 27 9:13:30 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassierBritches said: i have to disagree. i don't particularly like her earlier releases (barring slave 4 u) but this cd is a lot of fun. other than the two obligatory ballads, i love every song on it. i think there a re a bunch of possibilities...especially breathe on me! That might work. They'll probably choose that. Let's hope they don't pick "Outrageous", which sounds like Paris Hilton's theme song. [This message was edited Fri Feb 27 9:13:30 2004 by VoicesCarry] outrageous has me giggling everytime i listen to it..."outrageous, in my sexy jeans...outrageous, my shopping spree...outrageous..." hee hee...it is so cheesy but so much fun! i sing it whenever i go out shopping now! | |
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