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PrintableDavidEye said: There are plenty of other artists who could host this show with Lionel Ritchie...
Diana Ross Smokey Robinson Teena Marie Thelma Houston Valerie Simpson (of Ashford and Simpson) El DeBarge These are artists who actually recorded for Motown in the past,so they at least have a real CONNECTION to the label and it's music.No offense to Justin,but he's not really a suitable host. I know what you mean, but Motown is trying to reel in a younger audience. That's Justin's purpose. They already have someone representing the old school with Lionel Richie, and they wanted someone from the new school to co-host. I'm not mad at them for that. I'm all for introducing a younger generation to the greatness of Motown's past. But Justin should not be the one to do it. It should be someone from Motown. So what if he/she doesn't have Justin's large pop audience, it's "MOTOWN 45" for crying out loud. | |
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lameless said: DavidEye said: There are plenty of other artists who could host this show with Lionel Ritchie...
Diana Ross Smokey Robinson Teena Marie Thelma Houston Valerie Simpson (of Ashford and Simpson) El DeBarge These are artists who actually recorded for Motown in the past,so they at least have a real CONNECTION to the label and it's music.No offense to Justin,but he's not really a suitable host. I know what you mean, but Motown is trying to reel in a younger audience. That's Justin's purpose. They already have someone representing the old school with Lionel Richie, and they wanted someone from the new school to co-host. I'm not mad at them for that. I'm all for introducing a younger generation to the greatness of Motown's past. But Justin should not be the one to do it. It should be someone from Motown. So what if he/she doesn't have Justin's large pop audience, it's "MOTOWN 45" for crying out loud. Remy Shand would be a great choice.He's one of Motown's promising new artists,and his music is more genuinely soulful than Timeberlake's plastic R&B. | |
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My only problem with this is Janet's baby project Lena was dropped earlier this month because of Nipplegate. But Justin has been asked to Host the Motown 45th anniversary special(BOTH by ABC-TV).
That shit bugs the hell out of me,,,,now, thats fucking racisum but hey I didn't put anything paste those white folks who run those networks(and this MEDIA 4 that matter) so why am I not supriced?  | |
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namepeace said: The fact that a Jive artist is co-hosting a Motown special is wrong, especially when Motown has young artists of its own to promote. Yeah I don't think it is a race issue so much as a "representative" issue. A white MOTOWN artist like Remy Shand could host, and would be much more deserving than a black NON-MOTOWN artist such as Beyonce. ....y'know? For people who are actual fans of Motown, they would rather see the current roster host, wouldn't they? | |
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Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. | |
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All that matters is that twenty years down the line, you'll dig out your video of Motown 45 and think "Who is this person presenting this show, i remember the Motown artists but who the hell was this plank?"
He doesn't deserve the honour IMO.  |
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Marrk said: All that matters is that twenty years down the line, you'll dig out your video of Motown 45 and think "Who is this person presenting this show, i remember the Motown artists but who the hell was this plank?"
He doesn't deserve the honour IMO. Well said, exactly! Who is this shmuck? BlueNote | |
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Harlepolis said: Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. This is the official word. Unofficial word is that classy Lena Horne wanted someone well.....classier to play her after seeing Janet's Superbowl performance. So perhaps it isn't merely 'the whiteys at CBS'. [This message was edited Thu Feb 19 11:53:34 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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VoicesCarry said: Harlepolis said: Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. This is the official word. Unofficial word is that classy Lena Horne wanted someone well.....classier to play her after seeing Janet's Superbowl performance. So perhaps it isn't merely 'the whiteys at CBS'. [This message was edited Thu Feb 19 11:53:34 2004 by VoicesCarry] OMG I didn't knew that people still believe in classieness,,,,whoa my bad then  | |
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Harlepolis said: VoicesCarry said: This is the official word. Unofficial word is that classy Lena Horne wanted someone well.....classier to play her after seeing Janet's Superbowl performance. So perhaps it isn't merely 'the whiteys at CBS'. [This message was edited Thu Feb 19 11:53:34 2004 by VoicesCarry] OMG I didn't knew that people still believe in classieness,,,,whoa my bad then Lol, being a star in the 40s and 50s will do that to you, I guess  [This message was edited Thu Feb 19 12:03:17 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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Harlepolis said: Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. Wow,it looks like Janet is really paying a huge price for that Super Bowl fiasco.I didn't know that ABC was cancelling the Lena Horne movie.Has it already been filmed yet? | |
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Harlepolis said: Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. The reason that ABC dropped it (although it kind of sounds like that they are just going to wait to air it) is becuase they are afraid of ratings. When was the last time that ABC aired anything that people really talked about the next day. "According to Jim" or some other lame shitcom? I think not! Actually, "According to Jim" ain't so bad! Anyway, to aid fuel to the fire, Lena is getting all upset about Janet as well so this thing might not air if she gets fussy enough. Lena should be so greatful since someone like Janet will revive interest in Lena career! | |
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VinnyM27 said: Harlepolis said: Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. The reason that ABC dropped it (although it kind of sounds like that they are just going to wait to air it) is becuase they are afraid of ratings. When was the last time that ABC aired anything that people really talked about the next day. "According to Jim" or some other lame shitcom? I think not! Actually, "According to Jim" ain't so bad! Anyway, to aid fuel to the fire, Lena is getting all upset about Janet as well so this thing might not air if she gets fussy enough. Lena should be so greatful since someone like Janet will revive interest in Lena career! News flash: Lena is 87, she's not looking for a career revival! She's had a hell of a career over the past 60 years, and she doesn't consider Janet classy enough to play her. Bottom line: if this airs, Janet gets all the attention, anyway. [This message was edited Fri Feb 20 7:14:36 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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DavidEye said: There are plenty of other artists who could host this show with Lionel Ritchie...
Diana Ross Smokey Robinson Teena Marie Thelma Houston Valerie Simpson (of Ashford and Simpson) El DeBarge These are artists who actually recorded for Motown in the past,so they at least have a real CONNECTION to the label and it's music.No offense to Justin,but he's not really a suitable host. Diana Ross? Really think that's a great idea...now! If it weren't for the fact that she was in jail, I'd say yes. You know, when you list people like that, it does make sense that they are using Justin to reel in the youngsters. I don't like it but it makes sense. | |
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VoicesCarry said: VinnyM27 said: The reason that ABC dropped it (although it kind of sounds like that they are just going to wait to air it) is becuase they are afraid of ratings. When was the last time that ABC aired anything that people really talked about the next day. "According to Jim" or some other lame shitcom? I think not! Actually, "According to Jim" ain't so bad! Anyway, to aid fuel to the fire, Lena is getting all upset about Janet as well so this thing might not air if she gets fussy enough. Lena should be so greatful since someone like Janet will revive interest in Lena career! News flash: Lena is 87, she's not looking for a career revival! She's had a hell of a career over the past 60 years, and she doesn't consider Janet classy enough to play her. Bottom line: if this airs, Janet gets all the attention, anyway. [This message was edited Fri Feb 20 7:14:36 2004 by VoicesCarry] I agree. Lena is a living American legend. Janet never has to validate her. Lena is above all this modern pop music stuff. Lena never has to "comeback" or be revived, SHE BEEN HAD HER STRIPES before many of us were even born! Respect. | |
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Of course this is a Ratings game, and they wanted to "draw in the younger crowd too". But lets face it already, Im tired of hearing about the YOUNG CROWD and being in. Why is MOTOWN reaching out to an audience that isnt there, I run a record store here in NYC and their are people who havent even heard Stevie Wonder's albums at all, or Marvin or Lionel etc. So if U think by having JUSTIN host your show it will open the EYES of YOUTH to Motwon or some kind of MUSICAL TASTE u are sadly mistaken. Kids today want the MTV and the images they project, case closed. I mean read the DON HENLEY letter, he hits on every point of what is wrong with todays music and industry, I would 80% of the artists that have deals today "should" have deals. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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VoicesCarry said: VinnyM27 said: The reason that ABC dropped it (although it kind of sounds like that they are just going to wait to air it) is becuase they are afraid of ratings. When was the last time that ABC aired anything that people really talked about the next day. "According to Jim" or some other lame shitcom? I think not! Actually, "According to Jim" ain't so bad! Anyway, to aid fuel to the fire, Lena is getting all upset about Janet as well so this thing might not air if she gets fussy enough. Lena should be so greatful since someone like Janet will revive interest in Lena career! News flash: Lena is 87, she's not looking for a career revival! She's had a hell of a career over the past 60 years, and she doesn't consider Janet classy enough to play her. Bottom line: if this airs, Janet gets all the attention, anyway. [This message was edited Fri Feb 20 7:14:36 2004 by VoicesCarry]  Like being 87 is gonna stop her! Cher is twice as old and still wants!
I shouldn't have used the word revival but I certiantly didn't want to say comeback. What I seriously think is that if Janet were to do this movie, it wouldn't just be about Jante but it should certaintly get youngsters instreated in the legacy of someone like Lena Horne, who I've seen here and there and know about that she was one of the first and biggest African American actresses of her time but have no idea what she has been in. It's one of those people you know is a legand in music but couldn't name of song of theirs. I think this movie would have changed that with Janet starring it but if you get some nobody...nobody's gonna care! | |
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namepeace said: Let's look at it from a LABEL PERSPECT(VE FIRST.
If MOTOWN truly wanted a MOTOWN ARTIST out front, it could have suggested a youngster like Donnie, Erykah Badu, or even Remy Shand, all of whom are young deserving artists on their label. The fact that a Jive artist is co-hosting a Motown special is wrong, especially when Motown has young artists of its own to promote. But they need a hot young face to get folk to watch. This is an EXCELLENT point. | |
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Harlepolis said: Just to refresh everybody's memory about how shady ABC are:
VARIETY HOLLYWOOD— ABC scraps Lena Horne biopic because of Jackson incident The network will not air the TV movie for May sweeps as scheduled ABC Entertainment has announced the cancellation of “The Lena Horne Story”, starring Janet Jackson, that was scheduled to air in the all-important May sweeps. “We regret the decision because we do believe in the film’s artistic merit but in light of recent events, we had no choice but to pull it”, said Programming VP Marty Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg was making reference to the now infamous performance given by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl in Houston. In the latter part of their duet, Mr. Timberlake was to remove a section of Ms. Jackson’s costume. As the result of a “wardrobe malfunction” (Mr. Timberlake’s words), Ms. Jackson’s right breast was exposed, sparking an outcry from disapproving viewers. The FCC has even embarked on their own investigation. Mr. Feinberg could not confirm a new airdate for the film but stipulated that “it will definitely be shown”. Suzanne de Passe, CEO of de Passe Entertainment, the film’s production company, is outraged. Via telephone, Ms. de Passe expressed “extreme disbelief and disappointment” at ABC Entertainment’s decision. “What Janet did at the Super Bowl has no bearing on our film. Other actors have done worse and it didn’t affect the release of their projects so we don’t understand ABC reneging on our agreement to show the film in May.” Ms. Jackson’s representatives declined our interview requests. THAT IS JUST F"$&%*G ridiculous!!! There were alot of people very excited to see this biopic and I am absolutely floored at the double standard being held against Janet Jackson vs. any number of male popstars out there...unless Ms. Horne and/or her representatives have expressed that they want the biopic pulled (because they disapproved of the connection to Janet and the superbowl scandal), I think that this is grossly unfair. I wonder DePasse has all the rights to the biopic? If she does, I also wonder if cable would touch it since ABC dosen't want to show it? If that were possible then there would even be the chance for the movie to go to video, be distributed overseas, and make DePasse tons of money...would I think would be fantastic retribution against ABC being as difficult as they are... | |
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Janet has no business portraying Lena/Ms. Horne in the first place. Not only do they not
look alike but she's a star in her own right and much of Ms. Horne's story would be lost in what people think of Janet. Motown, like it or not, was commercial as hell. If you think "black" music was embodied by Motown do your homework. Gordy was about making money and seriously wanted to cross over. In that light Justin is the perfect co-host for this Motown Review. He does have some talent and he's popular right now. |
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justin t should never have been
asked 2 host the motwon special if he does, he should use his time wisely and apologize on air 2 janet 4 allowing her 2 take all the heat 4 the superbowl incident motown music is legendary it represents the power and soul of a people janet would be a better co-host because her family helped build motown abc needs 2 grow some balls and stop stepping on the toes of black folk by insulting us with justin as a co-host 4 a motown special he aint special at all | |
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Wasn't Motown originally conceived as a label selling crossover pop music to a wider white audience? I mean, it wasn't like Blue Note or Stax - it was pure pop until they migrated to the West Coast in the 70s, took acid and Stevie started making triple albums about plants.
Who cares if Justin Timberlake isn't a living legend? Not every Motown artist is a legend - I mean, Brown Mark was signed to the label for a time, wasn't he? Motown gained its social conscience despite Berry Gordy - not because of it. | |
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BinaryJustin said: Wasn't Motown originally conceived as a label selling crossover pop music to a wider white audience? I mean, it wasn't like Blue Note or Stax - it was pure pop until they migrated to the West Coast in the 70s, took acid and Stevie started making triple albums about plants.
Who cares if Justin Timberlake isn't a living legend? Not every Motown artist is a legend - I mean, Brown Mark was signed to the label for a time, wasn't he? Motown gained its social conscience despite Berry Gordy - not because of it. Motown produced legends and it is their duty to celebrate them on that special. I don't care if Justin becomes a legend or not. Give me just one reason, why Justin should be host of the 45th? So... they asked him! So what? He doesn't have to accept that job/honor! He is such a f*ckin desperate loser. He showed his true face during the last month. Enough is enough... First he was whining all over the place instead of tellin everyone he really like boobs and then he accepts this hosting job instead of telling ABC/Motown those footprints are a little big for him. He has chosen the short and fast way to the top, unfortunately nobody told him about the risks. What a whiny bitch! BlueNote | |
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Have you guys seen Lena Horne lately? Lawd that woman is BEAUTIFUL!!! Hell she looks better than Janet.
I saw her on BET late year and I was in shock how naturally beautiful Ms Horne still is. | |
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I'll say it
Justin should not be hosting Motown 45, simply because he's white. Motown was founded by a black man for black artists. These artists weren't getting deals with other labels. Mr. Gordy created a way for these artists to be heard. Motown has a deep (black) history. Sure, there have been a few non-black artists signed to the label in the latter years, but it has always been a predominantly black label catering to black music and black audiences. You can be non-black and like r&b music and you can go ahead and perform it too, but it doesn't mean every door should be open for him and that he should now become "honorary black" and be a part of everything predominantly black. Come on, people, forget this fake PC "one love" bullshit. This is all beside the fact that Justin has only come out with one "r&b inspired" album and all of a sudden he's worthy of hosting the 45th anniversary celebrating the success of one the great major black record companies. Get fucking real What's next, Britney becoming the permanent host of It's Showtime At The Apollo? | |
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It's official! They kicked him! 
Timberfake is out. Guess what, they say it is not because of protests. Yeah... right. He has too much goin on with his movies, so he is not able to make! *disgusted* BlueNote | |
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Janfriend said: Sure, there have been a few non-black artists signed to the label in the latter years, but it has always been a predominantly black label catering to black music and black audiences. You can be non-black and like r&b music and you can go ahead and perform it too, but it doesn't mean every door should be open for him and that he should now become "honorary black" and be a part of everything predominantly black.
The whole point of Motown was to cross over to a white audience. This is what Berry Gordy wanted, and it's what he got - with Diana Ross, Mary Wells, Barbara McNair, and so on. If you know the company's history, you'll know what I'm talking about. Gordy actively cultivated this, so we really can't say it was exclusively catering to black audiences. I don't understand the "he shouldn't be there because he isn't black" sentiment, because Motown was never about exclusion or discrimination. He shouldn't be there simply because he has no history with the company, because he just isn't talented enough and because presenting there requires some class. [This message was edited Tue Feb 24 5:11:11 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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BlueNote said: It's official! They kicked him!
Timberfake is out. Guess what, they say it is not because of protests. Yeah... right. He has too much goin on with his movies, so he is not able to make! *disgusted* BlueNote What an ass. "Oh, I'm just not able to make it." Sounds like it wasn't worthwhile fitting into his tight schedule in the first place. | |
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VoicesCarry said: BlueNote said: It's official! They kicked him!
Timberfake is out. Guess what, they say it is not because of protests. Yeah... right. He has too much goin on with his movies, so he is not able to make! *disgusted* BlueNote What an ass. "Oh, I'm just not able to make it." Sounds like it wasn't worthwhile fitting into his tight schedule in the first place. Whiny dissin bitch! At least he does everything to look like an ass. BlueNote | |
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The whole point of Motown was to cross over to a white audience. You CAN'T be serious with this statement, can you? If so, then this is exactly the kind of white male arrogance that makes black folk dislike/not trust white folk in general. Read that line again aloud and listen to how STUPID that shit sounds! Berry Gordy being a black male did what many of us do; he started his OWN BUSINESS because he had product that he wanted to sell and times being what they were, he knew he couldn't expect help from WHITE FOLKS. Not every n***a is just waiting to serve "massa". Every businessman, black or white, wants to make as much MONEY as possible. The difference is black folks on the whole know that we have to use what's available to us and try to make it work as best as we can. I'm sure if he could have made the same amount of MONEY selling to an all black crowd, he would have been content with it. He wanted Elvis money. Can't blame him for that. It wasn't the WHOLE POINT of Motown, though. Don't get it twisted. This is what Berry Gordy wanted, and it's what he got - with Diana Ross, Mary Wells, Barbara McNair, and so on. If you know the company's history, you'll know what I'm talking about. Gordy actively cultivated this, so we really can't say it was exclusively catering to black audiences. I don't understand the "he shouldn't be there because he isn't black" sentiment, because Motown was never about exclusion or discrimination. He shouldn't be there simply because he has no history with the company, because he just isn't talented enough and because presenting there requires some class. I can somewhat agree with the rest of your post. He wasn't trying to be "exclusive", but I don't think it would have bothered him if he was...IF the $$$ was large enough. | |
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