Singles and albums?

I just want 2 know the stats.

paisleypark4 said:

http://www.allmusic.com/c...lffe5cqu~C

Just to give you an idea of her singles success:

-she remains the only artist to pull 7 top 5 Hot 100 hits from an album (Rhythm Nation).

Alright (#4)
Black Cat (#1)
Come Back To Me (#2)
Escapade (#1)
Love Will Never Do (Without You) (#1)
Miss You Much (#1)
Rhythm Nation (#2)

-2002's release of "Son Of A Gun" (#28) was her first single release to miss the Billboard top 10 since 1987's "The Pleasure Principle". A rare misfire for Janet.

This week, "Just A Little While" debuts at #47 on the Hot 100.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 11:19:33 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

R U sure Mariah Carey or Whitney has not come close or tied her?

paisleypark4 said:

http://www.allmusic.com/c...lffe5cqu~C

Just to give you an idea of her singles success:

-she remains the only artist to pull 7 top 5 Hot 100 hits from an album (Rhythm Nation).

Alright (#4)
Black Cat (#1)
Come Back To Me (#2)
Escapade (#1)
Love Will Never Do (Without You) (#1)
Miss You Much (#1)
Rhythm Nation (#2)

-2002's release of "Son Of A Gun" (#28) was her first single release to miss the Billboard top 10 since 1987's "The Pleasure Principle". A rare misfire for Janet.

This week, "Just A Little While" debuts at #47 on the Hot 100.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 11:19:33 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

I don't think that the "Son of A Gun" thing is true. I don't think that "Got 'Til It's Gone", "Everytime" or "Go Deep" even charted on the pop charts (granted, "Got" might have suffered that fate becuase it wasn't released as a commerical single...or was it). Now if "Got" wasn't release as a proper single (although I could have sworn it was), you could argue that since "PP" (which is I think my all time fav), Janet has never had not a commerical single not reach the Top Ten, which is a good arguement showing that Janet gets love from retail and her fans (although I keep hearing assholes in the media saying she is no longer relavant).

VinnyM27 said:

Sorry, yes, Billboard reported this feat after "Son Of A Gun"'s peak in 2002 and they clarified it by saying "commercially released singles". "Got 'Til It's Gone" was a radio promo that went nowhere (should it be considered the first single off TVR? Hard to say.) while "Go Deep" was a European, Australian and Japanese single, and it was barely promoted in the US, even to radio. "Everytime" was another one of these 'fringe' singles (along with "Throb") but I don't truly consider them to be single releases per se. They primarily existed in the form of DJ-only remixes serviced to the dance crowd.
[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 14:18:39 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

Was "Son of A Gun" a commerically relased single though? I looked for it but only found imports (which I would have bought if they had the video...what a rip that AFY CD/DVD ended up being.

VinnyM27 said:

I've seen some 2-track CDs floating about. I can't say whether they're promos or not. Billboard might have had its info wrong (or there might have been a planned single release, which was later deleted), I'm not sure.

I still have no idea why Virgin just dropped promotion of AFY after the third single didn't do so hot. There were other candidates for single release there. But then, this is Virgin. And Virgin, as a promotional machine, sucks.
[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 14:27:58 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

What was werid was that they stopped promoting it but kept releasing verisons of the CD (the SOAG bonus remix and the DVD SE) and the album stuck around on the charts for a while but if they would have pushed another single ("Come On Get Up" was screaming to be released along with a slower song like "Better Days" or "China Love"). They messed up!

VinnyM27 said:

Apparently, just what you suggest was in the works:



Guess plans were abandoned. Why? Because Virgin sucks
[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 14:34:52 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

Was "Son of A Gun" a commerically relased single though? I looked for it but only found imports (which I would have bought if they had the video...what a rip that AFY CD/DVD ended up being.

VinnyM27 said:

SOAG and COGU were supposed to released domestically, but never were. SOAG was released in Europe while COGU was released in Japan. Virgin was going to release these singles, but a lot of internal drama unrelated to Janet (company layoffs, dismissals, resignations, etc.) at Virgin kept the two tracks from seeing the light of day stateside. Virgin's STILL going through internal drama, why you think Kelis left to Arista after a similiar stunt happened to her last (domestically unreleased) LP "Wanderland."

JANFAN4L said:

Has Janet's website been updated yet? Or are we still in 2001 time

All this is related to their virtual bankruptcy and the Mariah Carey Issue.

Come On Get Up SHOULD have been a waaay better single than Son Of A Gun...

Shudda been...

All 4 U
Come On Get Up
Someone 2 Call My Lover

I dont know but althugh it is not single material..."U Aint Right" would have BEEN FUNKIN NICE!!!

paisleypark4 said:

If I was in charge of releasing singles from the AFY project I would release (in this order):

All For You
Trust A Try (this was achin' to be released!)
Come On Get Up (the "tour" video for this album similiar to past "tour" singles You, Because of Love, Black Cat)
Someone To Call My Lover
Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)
You Ain't Right [radio only/dj/club single]
Better Days

I feel that these singles are better representatives of the AFY album as a whole and would've made it sell more units!

paisleypark4 said:

If I was in charge of releasing singles from the AFY project I would release (in this order):

All For You
Trust A Try (this was achin' to be released!)
Come On Get Up (the "tour" video for this album similiar to past "tour" singles You, Because of Love, Black Cat)
Someone To Call My Lover
Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)
You Ain't Right [radio only/dj/club single]
Better Days

I feel that these singles are better representatives of the AFY album as a whole and would've made it sell more units!

JANFAN4L said:

I would have released "Feels So Right" as a single as well. I just listened to the album today and that song caught me. It's not one that I typically think of but it is very good. They dropped the abll so hard on "All For You". They didn't even try to release any of the slow tracks either. I hope they got their shit together. Is it just me, or does Virgin not even have that many artists? And Janet must be the biggest one they got!

VinnyM27 said:

Major Artists on the label
Mike Oldfield (84)
The Rolling Stones (77)
Janet Jackson (70)
David Bowie (69)
Simple Minds (68)
Tangerine Dream (65)
UB40 (63)
Lenny Kravitz (62)
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Da (58)
The Smashing Pumpkins (43)
Gary Moore (39)
Public Image Ltd. (37)
Gang Starr (24)
Monty Python (16)
Geto Boys (16)
John Lee Hooker (8)
John Hammond, Jr. (6)
Lowell Fulson (2)
Etta James (1)
Big Walter Horton (1)
Mantronix (1)
Ice Cube (1)

Virgin will never get its shit together.

-2002's release of "Son Of A Gun" (#28) was her first single release to miss the Billboard top 10 since 1987's "The Pleasure Principle". A rare misfire for Janet.

This week, "Just A Little While" debuts at #47 on the Hot 100.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 11:19:33 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

JANFAN4L said:

I would have released "Feels So Right" as a single as well. I just listened to the album today and that song caught me. It's not one that I typically think of but it is very good. They dropped the abll so hard on "All For You". They didn't even try to release any of the slow tracks either. I hope they got their shit together. Is it just me, or does Virgin not even have that many artists? And Janet must be the biggest one they got!

VinnyM27 said:

they do play "Feel So Right" here on the urban radio station (the REAL radio station) out here all the time.

VoicesCarry said:

I noticed that the other day too. Virgin does suck but hopefully they will wake up with this new album!

VinnyM27 said:

Yeah, Virgin really does suck. All For You is definitely my least favorite Janet album, but I really think that Virgin really screwed Janet over on it though. They should've released "Come on Get Up"; it would've been a hit.