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Thread started 02/13/04 2:34am

Sinister

2 underrated jams from Janet and Rebbie Jackson

How come I never see "Diamonds" by Janet from the Herb Alpert album and Rebbie Jackson's "Centipede" on any funk or soul or 80's compilation? I have seen more obscure songs than those on compilations and none of them were as good. I was a fan of Janet once and Diamonds was and is my favorite song from her and old Herb. As for Centipede I don't know how many songs Michael Jackson wrote and produced for other artists but he put it down with Centipede. I got all pumped when Missy Elliott used the beat in "shes a bitch" I thought man Timberland is reaching deep for his beats. Anyone seen these on any compilations?
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Reply #1 posted 02/13/04 2:41am

VoicesCarry

Sinister said:

How come I never see "Diamonds" by Janet from the Herb Alpert album and Rebbie Jackson's "Centipede" on any funk or soul or 80's compilation? I have seen more obscure songs than those on compilations and none of them were as good. I was a fan of Janet once and Diamonds was and is my favorite song from her and old Herb. As for Centipede I don't know how many songs Michael Jackson wrote and produced for other artists but he put it down with Centipede. I got all pumped when Missy Elliott used the beat in "shes a bitch" I thought man Timberland is reaching deep for his beats. Anyone seen these on any compilations?


"Diamonds" can be found on the 2-disc Australian and Japanese versions of Janet's wonderful hits collection Design Of A Decade: 1986-1996. However, it is the "Cool Summer Mix Edit".
[This message was edited Thu Feb 12 18:49:22 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]
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Reply #2 posted 02/13/04 3:46am

JANFAN4L

Sinister said:

How come I never see "Diamonds" by Janet from the Herb Alpert album and Rebbie Jackson's "Centipede" on any funk or soul or 80's compilation? I have seen more obscure songs than those on compilations and none of them were as good. I was a fan of Janet once and Diamonds was and is my favorite song from her and old Herb. As for Centipede I don't know how many songs Michael Jackson wrote and produced for other artists but he put it down with Centipede. I got all pumped when Missy Elliott used the beat in "shes a bitch" I thought man Timberland is reaching deep for his beats. Anyone seen these on any compilations?


I love "Diamonds." That is a jam. I bought the Design of a Decade Import 2-CD set, just to get that song.
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/04 4:30am

SexxyCool

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I'm listening to Centipede right now music
That was the jam back in '84.I remember "Diamonds" too.Janet is singing on this other song Herb Alpert is on,I don't know who the other female is but the song is called "Making Love In The Rain".Love that song too.
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Reply #4 posted 02/13/04 4:58am

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I got all pumped when Missy Elliott used the beat in "shes a bitch" I thought man Timberland is reaching deep for his beats.

I never noticed she sampled Centipede.
*Going to listen to both songs back to back(*
~Stephanie~
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Reply #5 posted 02/13/04 6:05am

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"Diamonds" went #1 but i never see the video or hear the song played on the radio (other than Making Love In The Rain). I think Centipede did get it's props but not enuff. Mike's beat on that was comparable 2 "Nasty Girl" funk! Very underrated Michael production.
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Reply #6 posted 02/13/04 7:35am

Janfriend

paisleypark4 said:

"Diamonds" went #1 but i never see the video or hear the song played on the radio (other than Making Love In The Rain). I think Centipede did get it's props but not enuff. Mike's beat on that was comparable 2 "Nasty Girl" funk! Very underrated Michael production.


I saw the video to Diamonds twice. Janet's not even in the video. It's cute they way they did it though. They made you think she was in the video
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Reply #7 posted 02/13/04 2:18pm

UptownDeb

I've got an extended version of "Centipede" on a comp (can't think of the name of it right now). It was one of the main reasons why I bought it.
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Reply #8 posted 02/13/04 2:26pm

DavidEye

music "Centipede" by Rebbie Jackson is incredible! Rebbie is a better vocalist than Janet and LaToya. I love that song so much,but I haven't heard it since 1984.It's a shame that this song never appears on 80s R&B compilations.


"I don't know how many songs Michael wrote and produced for others artists"


off the top of my head,I can name a few...

"Muscles" by Diana Ross (1982)
"Nighttime Lover" by LaToya Jackson (1980)
"This Had To Be" by the Brothers Johnson (1980)
"Behind The Mask (Who Do You Love?)" by Greg Phillinganes (1985)
"Eaten Alive" by Diana Ross (1985)
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Reply #9 posted 02/13/04 4:07pm

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Diamonds is on Jammin' Grooves that came out in 2000. I have it and it's an excellent CD to have.

Centipede is on at least three or four compilations.
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Reply #10 posted 02/13/04 4:20pm

UptownDeb

DavidEye said:

music "Centipede" by Rebbie Jackson is incredible! Rebbie is a better vocalist than Janet and LaToya. I love that song so much,but I haven't heard it since 1984.It's a shame that this song never appears on 80s R&B compilations.


"I don't know how many songs Michael wrote and produced for others artists"


off the top of my head,I can name a few...

"Muscles" by Diana Ross (1982)
"Nighttime Lover" by LaToya Jackson (1980)
"This Had To Be" by the Brothers Johnson (1980)
"Behind The Mask (Who Do You Love?)" by Greg Phillinganes (1985)
"Eaten Alive" by Diana Ross (1985)


I love "Muscles." I've always been impressed by the fact that MJ wrote it. "Behind the Mask" was a favorite too.
Was never a big fan of "Eaten Alive" though.
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Reply #11 posted 02/13/04 4:32pm

TheFrog

omfg

i'm a serious, serious fan of Herb Alpert (pre-early 80s - I gave up after his 81 work i was so disillusioned), but i had no idea he hooked up with Janet later on. I'm going to have to check this out...

Hopefully it won't be as much of a slur on the Tijuana Brass sound as Magic Man.
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Reply #12 posted 02/13/04 4:39pm

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Co-sign on this one!

I bought Rebbie's last album, Yours Faithfully, primarily because it featured "Centipede". I have Janet's international 2-CD Design of a Decade, and I actually prefer the version of "Diamonds" on that project.
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Reply #13 posted 02/13/04 5:04pm

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The video for Centipede was scary and cool! It sounds like Diamonds video was probably aiight.
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Reply #14 posted 02/13/04 5:16pm

JANFAN4L

DONT'CHA KNOW...DIAMONDS ARE A GIRL'S BEST FRIEND...
WHEN YA GO, THEY STAY WITH ME UNTIL THE END!

::Minneapolis funk bounce::

There's so many versions of this song. I like the Cool Summer edit the best. The album version's cool also. There's also another version (probably an ultimix) that opens with Marilyn Monroe singing "Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend" from one of her old films and turntable flourishes throughout. Classic song.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 9:17:32 PST 2004 by JANFAN4L]
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Reply #15 posted 02/13/04 5:31pm

UptownDeb

Didn't she remake "Centipede?" Think it was on her last album.
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Reply #16 posted 02/13/04 6:00pm

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TheFrog said:

omfg

i'm a serious, serious fan of Herb Alpert (pre-early 80s - I gave up after his 81 work i was so disillusioned), but i had no idea he hooked up with Janet later on. I'm going to have to check this out...

Hopefully it won't be as much of a slur on the Tijuana Brass sound as Magic Man.


you didnt? wow..jam and lewis produced have of "Keep Your Eye On Me"...

Making Love In The Rain was the other song that janet sings back up on..But Lisa Keith handled the bulk of the vocals...
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Reply #17 posted 02/13/04 6:24pm

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

music "Centipede" by Rebbie Jackson is incredible! Rebbie is a better vocalist than Janet and LaToya. I love that song so much,but I haven't heard it since 1984.It's a shame that this song never appears on 80s R&B compilations.


"I don't know how many songs Michael wrote and produced for others artists"


off the top of my head,I can name a few...

"Muscles" by Diana Ross (1982)
"Nighttime Lover" by LaToya Jackson (1980)
"This Had To Be" by the Brothers Johnson (1980)
"Behind The Mask (Who Do You Love?)" by Greg Phillinganes (1985)
"Eaten Alive" by Diana Ross (1985)


Ugh. The majority of those are awful.
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Reply #18 posted 02/13/04 7:50pm

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UptownDeb said:

Didn't she remake "Centipede?" Think it was on her last album.


Actually, Rebbie's last album featured the original version of "Centipede" (with an updated intro and outro).
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Reply #19 posted 02/13/04 8:14pm

UptownDeb

todd305 said:

Actually, Rebbie's last album featured the original version of "Centipede" (with an updated intro and outro).


Re: "updated intro"...does it sound like a lot of (industrial) noise, like factory sounds (it's pretty nondescript noise, don't know how else to describe it)?
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Reply #20 posted 02/14/04 3:26am

JANFAN4L

"Centipede" was also sampled in Nas' rap smash "You Owe Me" featuring Ginuwine, produced by Timbaland.
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Reply #21 posted 02/14/04 3:35am

JANFAN4L

Diamonds
Featuring: Janet Jackson and Lisa Keith
Writers: James Harris the III and Terry Lewis


Ugh, ugh

You tell me you love me, you tell me you care
But when I'm around you, it's like I'm not there
I need a reminder, something I can see
Something on my finger that shines so brightly

Don't you know diamonds are a girl's best friend
When you go they stay with you until the end
Don't you know diamonds are a girl's best friend
When you go they stay with you until the end

Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free
Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free

You send me some roses, but roses do die
You gave me some candy, it melted, nice try
I'm not demandin', I have simple taste
I just want a token that won't go to waste

(Diamonds)

Da, da, da, da, da, woo, ah
Hirns blow
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da

Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free
Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free

Don't you know diamonds are a girl's best friend
When you go they stay with you until the end
Don't you know diamonds are a girl's best friend
When you go they stay with you until the end

Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free
Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free

Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free
Don't want your money, don't want your key
(Diamonds) Love don't come for free

Don't throw in that towel
Wait a minute
Let's do the next song
Next
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Reply #22 posted 02/14/04 10:53am

CinisterCee

JANFAN4L said:

"Centipede" was also sampled in Nas' rap smash "You Owe Me" featuring Ginuwine, produced by Timbaland.


Man what the fuck, I thought "You Owe Me" was a cop off "Nasty Girl".
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Reply #23 posted 02/14/04 10:56am

CinisterCee

I remember in 1987 when my family was pumpin "Nasty", "Pleasure Principle"... dancing jig there was a black & white video for "Diamonds". "Diamonds" was right up there with her Control singles for us.

I copped the Herb Alpert album for that and "Making Love In The Rain".

I have a Control remix album with Cool Summer remixes of "Nasty" and stuff, but "Diamonds" isn't on there. confuse


"She's A Bitch" samples "Centipede" too? confuse
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Reply #24 posted 02/14/04 7:48pm

goat2004

Those were two bomb ass songs! Haven't heard either in a while.
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Reply #25 posted 02/14/04 8:23pm

VoicesCarry

JANFAN4L said:

DONT'CHA KNOW...DIAMONDS ARE A GIRL'S BEST FRIEND...
WHEN YA GO, THEY STAY WITH ME UNTIL THE END!

::Minneapolis funk bounce::

There's so many versions of this song. I like the Cool Summer edit the best. The album version's cool also. There's also another version (probably an ultimix) that opens with Marilyn Monroe singing "Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend" from one of her old films and turntable flourishes throughout. Classic song.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 13 9:17:32 PST 2004 by JANFAN4L]


That's the ultimix remix, yeah.

I love this song. Très sassy.

Don't you know
diamonds are a girl's best friend?
When you go
they stay with me until the end
Don't you know
diamonds are a girl's (girl's) best friend?
When you go,
they stay with me until the end
Don't want your money
Don't want your key
(Diamonds)
Love don't come for free
You sent me some roses
But roses do die
You gave me some candy
It melted, nice try
I'm not that demanding
I have simple tastes
I just want a token
That can't go to waste
Diamonds


This made #5, by the way.


[This message was edited Sat Feb 14 12:27:52 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]
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Reply #26 posted 02/16/04 7:03am

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*Going to listen to both songs back to back(*[/quote]
and when you're done doing that, listen to "slave 4u" and "nasty girl" and try to convince me they sound alike. wink
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