Rhondab said:

I used to be an MTV intern. If MTV bans Janet from their network even after she was their first "MTV Icon," I will personally erase their company from my résumé and boycott the MTV network. I will not stand behind a company representative of an industry that is hypocritical. It's because of MTV and image obsession that sh*t like this exists anyway. Why hate a pawn in the game THEY set up? This is past corny.

Justin Timberlake is a tool.

automatic said:

your name just put the song in my head.

hey everlast...i saw the recent interview with Justin and he did come off as an oppurtuniest jerk..he had the gale to say "i had a great year..w/ my music..i dont need this"..

then he gets pissed about judging people's character? yet isnt he judging janets? janet has said that the red cloth was supposed to stay on...why isnt he defending her character and keeping with his "costume malfunction" statement? now he is offended and sickened too?

give me a break!!!

jessyMD32781 said:

Justin Timberlake is a fucking wanker! I can't wait til that little fucker is behind a counter at McDonalds. Where his little talent would be best suited!

SassierBritches said:

because what Madonna has done for MTV has been on MTV, a cable network, that is not governed by the same standards as network/broadcast standards?

madartista said:

i seem to remember madonna cursing up a storm on david letterman...who is also on cbs...she ended up with the record of curses in a talk show segment (hey, this was before jerry springer :lol).

i think those curses are much worse than a boob.

but, in america, you can hear bad languageand see violence but you best not catch a second of a boob.

SassierBritches said:

has mtv made any statement about not playing janet videos? i haven't seen anything on their site. maybe i'll go looking...

Justin is a loser without balls. I hate all those whiny morons playing cool and when there is bit of trouble... *argh*

Here is my little advice what you should say Justin

"Yeah, so what? I like boobies!"

Get balls, moron!

BlueNote

paisleypark4 said:

Madonna has done some controversial things,but she has never bared her breast at a Super Bowl half-time show.There's a time and place for everything,and unfortunately for Janet,she chose the wrong place to be controversial.She should have saved that performance for the VMAS,where it would have been more appropriate.

SassierBritches said:

I don't think MTV will go THAT far,but I do think that Janet might suffer a slight backlash.Some radio stations may not play her upcoming singles.Every longtime artist experiences a media backlash at some point (remember the Madonna backlash of 1993?),and Janet is long overdue.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 3:07:36 PST 2004 by DavidEye]

SassierBritches said:

as Letterman is tape delayed, no one heard her 13 fucks. CBS could have pulled the show, if they chose. That option wasn't available with a live broadcast.

madartista said:

my point is it seems to be acceptable for some people to push the limits and unacceptable for others. i am not saying that what janet AND justin did was necessarily classy or appropriate but much of what most of our performers do on tv is not classy or appropriate. let's not single one out and hold her responsible for the actions of many.

Fuck Justin and Janet...Im sick of the whole schlemeel.

SassierBritches said:

I understand that, and I'm not defending what Madonna or any other raunchy stars have done, nor do I think a boob is a big deal. But Janet is being singled out because the venue she did it in (broadcast television vs. cable) and the format she did it on (live vs. tape delay). There is a difference, and that's why she's being held to a different standard.

JANFAN4L said:

Exactly. If they really do such a thing, I will never support MTV again.

DavidEye said:

You can see the beginnings of that here. Overexposure will always do it.

VoicesCarry said:

i don't know, the new song seems to fairing pretty well on radio for its first few days:

Just A Little While
CHR/Pop
Position: #36
Spins: 1262 (+1189)
Audience: 16.782 million

CHR/Rhythmic
Position: #59
Spins: 288 (+278)
Audience: 4.634 million

Urban
Position: #185
Spins: 34 (+34)
Audience: 0.588 million

Hot AC
Spins: 119 (+119)
Audience: 1.849 million+

Total audience: 23.853 million+
(thanks to janet-xone for the info)

SassierBritches said:

And Madonna's "Erotica" debuted at #3 on the strength of radio play alone. Then it all went to shit. Your point?

VoicesCarry said:

and here we are talking about madonna again.
my point, since you asked, was to counter your point that you can see the beginning of a backlash. the backlash (if there really is one coming and this isn't just media manipulation) isn't coming from the radio audience since they have been requesting the song a lot.

VoicesCarry said:

you really seem to be hating all this attention janet is getting?

your comments are almost coming off as if it were a personal issue for you...

sosgemini said:

No, it's not. I just find it amusing that someone believes a rich celebrity needs "support" for a publicity stunt, especially when I think it went the way she intended it to. And I'm trying to give an alternate opinion in these threads, where 90% of the posts are "JANET'S MY GURL I LOVE JANET OMG OMG OMG OMG SHUT UP JUSTIN" (exaggeration there, but not far off the mark).
[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 11:34:41 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

it does come off like some personal thing, though. i'm sure its not...rather, you enjoy causing a stir with janet's fans ...but sometimes you bend over backwards to counter the janet supporters.

just an observation.

SassierBritches said:

Just an observation that it's somehow OK for a Janet fan like you to get personal but not someone who finds this entire thing ludicrous and rather annoying?

My original point was valid, I think. "Erotica" was at the beginning of promotion, and everything went downhill from there. I really hope this doesn't happen to Janet, but it's getting to the point of overexposure and let's just say to hear her on the radio after hearing about her 24/7 on television and in print would be insufferable.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 11:40:30 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

hey, i think i've joked around quite a lot about all of this. my only real concern is not for janet's commercial survival (that's inevitable considering how rabid her fans are ) but for the double standard being shown. and i would stick up for anyone this was happening to. maybe i've taken digs at madonna but only because everyone has this strange need to throw her name into anything that involves janet...as if there can't be TWO powerful and successful women in music.

i find all of this press and craziness to be absolutely mind-bogglingly ridiculous. and i've said so many times.

and for the record, i've never considered erotica a flop since it did sell over 3 million copies in the states, alone. yes, it would have done even better if she didn't do that fuck all of a movie, body of evidence and that high priced issue of hustler called Sex.

I haven't heard any of Justin's statements, so I can't say how I feel about him. But I'm a little confused and disappointed in Janet...

1) In the wake of all the drama with her brother, she somehow think's it's a good choice to semi-bare a breast on a national broadcast TV show that has for years been a middle-American institution. You know: family, apple pie, all that.

2) Knowing there's gonna be drama, she does it half-ass -- with a pasty! If you're TRULY making an artistic statement and are gonna suffer the inevitible fallout, why not go whole-hog, nipple and all!?!?

3) NOW she appears on TV with the sad puppy-dog eyes, apologizing and stuff. Why apologize? You're a bold, daring artist, right? Flip flops like this compromise an artist's credibility.

Lammastide said:

i kind of agree with you. though, it wasn't a pasty. but you would only know what it was on her nipple if you strained yo' ass to see it. as forthe apologizing...well, i think she was kind of cornered into that. i don't think it helped her with credibility but sometimes you ave to suck it up and recognize that it wasn't a great idea. i also think if the media wasn't so bloodsuckingly looking for yellow journalism, this wouldn't have been such big news. but then, in fairness, if the entertainment industry wasn't so blooduckingly into shocking, this would never have happened. i think everyone played a part in it and i think everyone needs to chill now. the fact is, we hate to see tragedy yet we stare at the car accident on the side of the road and complain about the traffic we cause. yeah, yeah, yeah, banal analogy but you get my point, right?

Lammastide said:

Breasts were semi-bared before the bodice-rip. Commercials, dancers etc. She also didn't choose to show whole tit. Justin just didn't do it right (I really do beleive it is humanly possible it supposed to just expose the red lace)


Who could have guessed this much drama???


Not a pasty, a nipple ring, I'm sure you can find the closeup picture around here somewhere


she said she was sorry it offended and that it went as far as it did, not sorry they decided to attempt it.
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VoicesCarry said:

i don't know how accurate that comment is, especially since 103.5 kiss fm, here in chicago, is actually having janet and justin contests. everytime you hear a janet or justin song you call in and they give away janet and justin music. now, it is my understanding that radio stations only have contests involving artists who are in demand. aybe there is no audience backlash, which is what i said before. and if it is only an industry backlash, that won't last long once dollars start speaking.