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Thread started 01/15/04 5:25pm

lastdecember

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WOW this is funny

Mariah carey is set to play a concert in Malaysia very soon but it may not happen, since 60-70%of Malaysia is muslim,they are against Mariahs SEXY image and clothing (probably because she doesnt have a sheet covering her)they are demanding the concert be stopped and apologies be issued to the muslim peopleof malaysia (wow this is priceless). Im not really sure why MARIAH wants to play a concert there but she sold most of the 50,000 seats in the arena already, however, I think she should play it and she should make it SEXIER than she does here(and trust me i saw the tour and it gets hot with those outfits), maybe this will straighten these countries out, Im not saying women should allhave to dress that way, but they should be free to do it, and not beheaded like they are. I am so tired of all this reigious bullshit already.

Its like George Carlin said "there is no god, never was, never will be"

heres some MARIAH for y'all

http://www.mariah-carey.o...tyle/1.jpg

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #1 posted 01/16/04 1:23pm

pandemonium

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I would just love if she came 2 denmark, and did a sexy show in my bedroom !
I'll have another glass of you.
this time on the rocks.
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Reply #2 posted 01/16/04 1:24pm

VoicesCarry

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/04 12:27pm

lastdecember

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VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


No to basically have the freedom to change your outfits and to just be a singer, Im sure they would kill any woman who tried to have their own life or that wanted to make up her own mind. Lets be serious here, all religions are really stupid, nothing more than brainwashing people to keep them under control, I cant believe that religion still exists, it kills more people than anything.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #4 posted 01/17/04 12:49pm

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lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


No to basically have the freedom to change your outfits and to just be a singer, Im sure they would kill any woman who tried to have their own life or that wanted to make up her own mind. Lets be serious here, all religions are really stupid, nothing more than brainwashing people to keep them under control, I cant believe that religion still exists, it kills more people than anything.



Religions don't kill, extremists do.
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Reply #5 posted 01/17/04 3:16pm

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lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


No to basically have the freedom to change your outfits and to just be a singer, Im sure they would kill any woman who tried to have their own life or that wanted to make up her own mind. Lets be serious here, all religions are really stupid, nothing more than brainwashing people to keep them under control, I cant believe that religion still exists, it kills more people than anything.


I can understand if you're not a person who's into religion, but the first ppart of your post really struck me, as, well, misinformed to say the least.

Okay. Please forgive me for what I'm about to say,but,

WHO THE F+*k ARE WE? THE CULTURE POLICE???

Out of curiosity, I'm just wondering-do you actually KNOW any Muslims in your life personally? I do, and though you may find it hard to believe, not all of the women are fundementalist burka wearing slaves to their men. I'm an American living in Europe where Muslim women change their outfits EVERYDAY, and though they adhere to keeping their heads and arms covered, they are active in the workplace, they wear make-up, FIERCE stiletto boots, and will change those headscarves to match a FABULOUS Italian cut suit in a New York minute! I see them in the streets shopping with their families, I see them wearing the latest trendies where they work at H&M, and yes, I see them behind the desks in large offices or on televison singing music in their own native tongue (and baby, the women who sing in Arabic can work a vibrato right up there with any soul singer out there- which might explain a bit why I've found many an Arabic/Muslim friend who enjoys singers in the American R&B genre). Although I don't believe Mariah should ever be made to apologize for being what feels true to her as an entertainer- I also feel that we don't have to forcefeed other cultures our standards of beauty or ideology because frankly- many of those cultures, and I am speaking directly about women, (and yes, many Muslim women) are PERFECTLY HAPPY being what feels true to themselves as well.
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Reply #6 posted 01/17/04 3:19pm

VoicesCarry

ReeseStrongnight said:

lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


No to basically have the freedom to change your outfits and to just be a singer, Im sure they would kill any woman who tried to have their own life or that wanted to make up her own mind. Lets be serious here, all religions are really stupid, nothing more than brainwashing people to keep them under control, I cant believe that religion still exists, it kills more people than anything.


I can understand if you're not a person who's into religion, but the first ppart of your post really struck me, as, well, misinformed to say the least.

Okay. Please forgive me for what I'm about to say,but,

WHO THE F+*k ARE WE? THE CULTURE POLICE???

Out of curiosity, I'm just wondering-do you actually KNOW any Muslims in your life personally? I do, and though you may find it hard to believe, not all of the women are fundementalist burka wearing slaves to their men. I'm an American living in Europe where Muslim women change their outfits EVERYDAY, and though they adhere to keeping their heads and arms covered, they are active in the workplace, they wear make-up, FIERCE stiletto boots, and will change those headscarves to match a FABULOUS Italian cut suit in a New York minute! I see them in the streets shopping with their families, I see them wearing the latest trendies where they work at H&M, and yes, I see them behind the desks in large offices or on televison singing music in their own native tongue (and baby, the women who sing in Arabic can work a vibrato right up there with any soul singer out there- which might explain a bit why I've found many an Arabic/Muslim friend who enjoys singers in the American R&B genre). Although I don't believe Mariah should ever be made to apologize for being what feels true to her as an entertainer- I also feel that we don't have to forcefeed other cultures our standards of beauty or ideology because frankly- many of those cultures, and I am speaking directly about women, (and yes, many Muslim women) are PERFECTLY HAPPY being what feels true to themselves as well.


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Very nicely said.
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Reply #7 posted 01/17/04 5:18pm

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I don't think you should force feed anyone another persons's values
But if 60% don't want to see it, don't go!!!
I think that's the point his saying
There are 50,000 who bought tickets and want to see it, and the issue here is those people have a right to see it just as much as those who don't!!
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Reply #8 posted 01/17/04 5:20pm

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VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


I know another person who has used their sexuality or as you call it trampiness to make a point??? does your avatar ring a bell??
those in glass houses?hehe
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Reply #9 posted 01/17/04 5:29pm

lastdecember

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ReeseStrongnight said:

lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


No to basically have the freedom to change your outfits and to just be a singer, Im sure they would kill any woman who tried to have their own life or that wanted to make up her own mind. Lets be serious here, all religions are really stupid, nothing more than brainwashing people to keep them under control, I cant believe that religion still exists, it kills more people than anything.


I can understand if you're not a person who's into religion, but the first ppart of your post really struck me, as, well, misinformed to say the least.

Okay. Please forgive me for what I'm about to say,but,

WHO THE F+*k ARE WE? THE CULTURE POLICE???

Out of curiosity, I'm just wondering-do you actually KNOW any Muslims in your life personally? I do, and though you may find it hard to believe, not all of the women are fundementalist burka wearing slaves to their men. I'm an American living in Europe where Muslim women change their outfits EVERYDAY, and though they adhere to keeping their heads and arms covered, they are active in the workplace, they wear make-up, FIERCE stiletto boots, and will change those headscarves to match a FABULOUS Italian cut suit in a New York minute! I see them in the streets shopping with their families, I see them wearing the latest trendies where they work at H&M, and yes, I see them behind the desks in large offices or on televison singing music in their own native tongue (and baby, the women who sing in Arabic can work a vibrato right up there with any soul singer out there- which might explain a bit why I've found many an Arabic/Muslim friend who enjoys singers in the American R&B genre). Although I don't believe Mariah should ever be made to apologize for being what feels true to her as an entertainer- I also feel that we don't have to forcefeed other cultures our standards of beauty or ideology because frankly- many of those cultures, and I am speaking directly about women, (and yes, many Muslim women) are PERFECTLY HAPPY being what feels true to themselves as well.


Ok here is my point, first of all, I dont care what people follow it doesnt really matter, but RELIGION as a whole no matter who U follow, kills more people than AIDS CANCER HEART ATTACKS SARS etc..Put together. Just based on the double standards that they preach, and that goes for all religions, I mean the Catholic religion condems SEX and Homosexuals and then priests rape young boys and the church covers it up and doesnt fire anyone. And America is the biggest double standard, we are fighting a war on terrorism, and yet we are the biggest terrorists ever, I mean just the Bomb dropped on Hiroshma and not to mention all the innocence we killed in IRAQ for no reason at all. So dont get me wrong I am not anti-muslim, I dont care what people wanna worship, worship a head of lettuce like RERUN did in whats happening, I am anti-religion though, I believe its all very simple, Do good to others, be free, dont follow anyones lead, think for yourself, and have a fun life, u only get one and when u die they drop u into the ground and the worms eat U, U dont go to some party in the sky.
PEACE

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Reply #10 posted 01/18/04 3:44am

charlottegelin

Well, what she has to do is this:
40% of the show she does normal (muslims kindly avert their eyes) and the other 60% she covers up. Easy peasy.
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Reply #11 posted 01/18/04 3:59am

CinisterCee

twink69 said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


I know another person who has used their sexuality or as you call it trampiness to make a point??? does your avatar ring a bell??
those in glass houses?hehe


twink's gotcha there. i was thinking the same thing. c'mon "trampiness"?? unless you meant it in an empowering way lol confuse
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Reply #12 posted 01/18/04 4:11am

CinisterCee

I don't know how budgets/programming for tour wardrobe's work, but even if Mariah must conform somewhat, I'm sure they could pull out some awesome fully-clothed designs for that show. Gowns n' shit.
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/04 6:30am

VoicesCarry

twink69 said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


I know another person who has used their sexuality or as you call it trampiness to make a point??? does your avatar ring a bell??
those in glass houses?hehe


rolleyes. Uh, yeah, Madonna's a whore, WE ALL KNOW THAT. But my point (if you bothered to read the statement) was that the Muslims don't need (or want) to be "liberated" by Mariah's slut clothing, as the original poster suggested. The suggestion that this is America's "duty" (and even worse, the suggestion that revealing clothing is a woman's primary method of liberation) is ridiculous.
[This message was edited Sun Jan 18 6:35:10 PST 2004 by VoicesCarry]
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Reply #14 posted 01/18/04 6:37am

CinisterCee

Ahh much clearer nod
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Reply #15 posted 01/18/04 11:57am

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lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:

So basically she should show the Muslims how to liberate themselves through trampiness?


Im sure they would kill any woman who tried to have their own life or that wanted to make up her own mind.


I just returned from Malaysia two months ago, and I didn't get the feeling that the people were such extremists. In fact, the people went about their lives just as we do: shopping, eating out, going to work, etc. Yes, the majority of Malaysians are Muslim, but I personally didn't get the feeling that the women were oppressed or controlled. Although, I didn't go to the peninsular fishing villages where I've heard it can be pretty bad, especially for women traveling.
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #16 posted 01/18/04 5:37pm

UptownDeb

I was watching this movie from the 40s yesterday about these archaeologist looking for ancient artifacts in Egypt. There's this scene in which a bellydancer--showing cleavage and lots of midriff--is dancing around a group of muslim men. Then it occured to me: "Why is this okay, when there are women hiding behind burkas?"
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