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Thread started 01/17/04 10:07pm

origmnd

The Clash were allowed 3 lps but NOT Prince

How come they conned Epic to let that piece of shit "Sandanista" be released in 1980, and at a reasonable price at that!

There's like maybe a side & 1/2 of good songs on there, rest is ridiculously bad.

Prince could've made 4 lps of great stuff
for "Crysta;l Ball".
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Reply #1 posted 01/17/04 10:11pm

NWF

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no no no! Hey hey hey! I'll be damned if I let you sit here and badmouth a classic! "Sandinista" is one of the greatest albums ever. The Clash had to fight their record company to get this album released and at an affordable price.

Crystal Ball is just as great, if not greater. But I guess the folks at Warner Bros. weren't giving Prince the same kind of dues that Epic gave to The Clash.
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Reply #2 posted 01/17/04 10:59pm

Anxiety

Hey, I like Sandanista!

The only song I don't like is the one with the kids singing - it's a rule with me that when you have your brats or a children's choir sing, you've ruined your song.

Unless it's like, you know, a Sesame Street album or something...

ANYway, there is something of a good point to this question, but framing it by saying Sandanista! was crap does not help!
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/04 11:01pm

NWF

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Outkast had to have gotten some of their ideas for their latest joint from this album.
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Reply #4 posted 01/18/04 12:13am

JohnnyTheFox

origmnd said:

How come they conned Epic to let that piece of shit "Sandanista" be released in 1980, and at a reasonable price at that!

There's like maybe a side & 1/2 of good songs on there, rest is ridiculously bad.

Prince could've made 4 lps of great stuff
for "Crysta;l Ball".



"Sandinista!" was NOT a piece of shit. It's a visionary album, which anticipated a whole bunch of genres.

I agree that there is, perhaps, an album's worth of filler on there, and yes, it would have made a killer double album to rival "London Calling", but "a piece of shit" it absolutely is NOT.

By the way, it was Epic who conned the Clash, not the other way round. Epic didn't want to release "Sandinista" as it was, so The Clash agreed to forego royalties on the first 250,000 copies so the company could recoup its money. It did.
[This message was edited Sun Jan 18 0:16:17 PST 2004 by JohnnyTheFox]
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Reply #5 posted 01/18/04 11:50am

danielboon

all hail 2 SANDINISTA!, 1 o my all time fave albums.

sorry aint no piece o shit !, that was graffiti bridge ! ur confused yea ?
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Reply #6 posted 01/19/04 11:05am

CinisterCee

You make a good point that Sandanista was a 3-disc set, so why not Prince. But Sandanista is awesome! and highly borrowed from. spank
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Reply #7 posted 01/19/04 12:45pm

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why? cause the clash new how to get shit done...obviously at the expense of their own commerce...



do cha think prince would ever compromise his cash flow for the sake of his art?
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Reply #8 posted 01/20/04 1:17am

JohnnyTheFox

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why? cause the clash new how to get shit done...obviously at the expense of their own commerce...



do cha think prince would ever compromise his cash flow for the sake of his art?



"SNOOZE" and "The Rainbow Children" weren't exactly "Justified", were they?
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Reply #9 posted 01/20/04 10:05am

MD7

The politics of that time would mean a black act would be governed by a different set of record industry rules, they had only just broken into MTV rotation remember and P had to have Tommy Vicari on board for album #1 etc.

The Clash were offered more respect which is perverse in a way as I think P's ideas for triple albums were far more consistent although I enjoy Sandinista too. Aside from the children version of Career Opportunities I can listen to it all...
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/04 1:25pm

OdysseyMiles

JohnnyTheFox said:

sosgemini said:

why? cause the clash new how to get shit done...obviously at the expense of their own commerce...



do cha think prince would ever compromise his cash flow for the sake of his art?



"SNOOZE" and "The Rainbow Children" weren't exactly "Justified", were they?


Co-sign, and Prince has ALWAYS been known for spending his money on his music.
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