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Thread started 01/09/04 7:31pm

AaronAlmighty

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Madonna's "Love Profusion" to be US single

Source: http://www.madonnapolis.com/News.htm

Love Profusion to be released in US

Love Profusion is going to be released on January 27th, in the US,
according to Peter Rauhofer's site. With Nothing Fails not gathering
any momentum, Madonna's camp is looking to push Love Profusion, which
had its video released a couple of weeks ago. This will coincide with
the Estee Lauder commercial (which uses Love Profusion as its theme),
being shown in February.

This is the tracklisting from Rauhofer's site:

1)The Passengerz Club mix
2)Ralphi Rosario House Vocal mix
3)Ralphi Rosario Big Room Vox
4)Camaione and Cilione blow-up version
5)Ralphi's Big room Dub
6)Into the Hollywood groove(Peter Rauhofer club mix)
7)Hollywood Express

Thanks to Keith Caulfield [keithc@keithers.com]:

Hollywood Express is a mash-up of "Hollywood" with Giorgio Moroder's
"The Chase." (Classic electronic disco song.)
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #1 posted 01/09/04 7:55pm

endorphin74

rolleyes

I hate to say this since I like the album, but...

GIVE UP ALREADY!!!
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Reply #2 posted 01/09/04 7:56pm

VoicesCarry

endorphin74 said:

rolleyes

I hate to say this since I like the album, but...

GIVE UP ALREADY!!!


Lol, yeah, I've never seen someone release so many non-charting singles from what was a commercial disappointment (only in the US, though).
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Reply #3 posted 01/09/04 8:02pm

SassyBritches

how has every last single been a failure? they're not THAT bad!
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Reply #4 posted 01/09/04 8:40pm

Lammastide

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I went into an Abercrombie & Fitch today to check out the boys (That'd be the only reason I EVER go into that place!), and they were pumping some amazing new Madonna track. It made me kinda sad that she's fallen off so badly that I'm not even aware of her newer stuff -- and I actually like her. Has she finally become passe? sad
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Reply #5 posted 01/09/04 8:52pm

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January 27th! They released "Nothing Fails" as a single on December 9th (or around then), right? Wow! Anyway, it is looking desperate (I'm shocked that no one gave "Nothing Fails" a shot but I think they were pushing a remix without the choir). Also, I find it "Amazing" that they put out four maxi singles (five if you count "Die Another Day", which you kind of can't since it came out so long before the album and was a James Bond theme) yet they only released 3 singles off of "Music", which had some very commerical sounding dance songs (I never understood their argument about "Impressive Instant" being too odd for radio). And the 3 "Music" singles were hits (two huge and one moderate). Warners makes no sense! No wonder she wants to leave.

BTW, how have the singles been doing over seas. I know that "American Life" was a number one in hit a few countries...including Canada but it only reached number 2 in the UK since it charted kind of early when some stores got the single in early. I would really like to know where I could see those numbers.
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Reply #6 posted 01/09/04 11:28pm

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Madonna should stop with releasing new singles and maxi singles of remixed Hollywood and Into The Hollywood Groove on it!

She should just stop all together on promoting the american life album...warn- a- brutha...ain't doing shyt these days!!!


Girl get a new label and release some new music...without the techno theme...

Mirwais is a genius...when it came to the hit 'MUSIC'...but its over...unless he can come with another 'MUSIC' joint!!!

Maddy...call up Missy, Neptunes, and some old friends like David Foster, Babyface and maybe Lenny Kravitz!

Like get Lenny to rock out on guitar and duet with you!!!
Neptunes would love to reinvent Madonna and Missy just Loves you!!!


So get over the failed success of American Life and Move on to something new and refreshing thats HIP and POP...no more Techno experiments...Dance/Pop/Hip-Hop/R&B always worked in the past for Madonna...so perhaps it can get her a hit in the 2004!

Imagine this...MTV:


Madonna Mixes old and new from 'Neptunes, Missy Elliot, Lenny Kravitz, to David Foster and BabyFace...coolhuh!
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Reply #7 posted 01/10/04 6:03am

VoicesCarry

VinnyM27 said:

January 27th! They released "Nothing Fails" as a single on December 9th (or around then), right? Wow! Anyway, it is looking desperate (I'm shocked that no one gave "Nothing Fails" a shot but I think they were pushing a remix without the choir). Also, I find it "Amazing" that they put out four maxi singles (five if you count "Die Another Day", which you kind of can't since it came out so long before the album and was a James Bond theme) yet they only released 3 singles off of "Music", which had some very commerical sounding dance songs (I never understood their argument about "Impressive Instant" being too odd for radio). And the 3 "Music" singles were hits (two huge and one moderate). Warners makes no sense! No wonder she wants to leave.

BTW, how have the singles been doing over seas. I know that "American Life" was a number one in hit a few countries...including Canada but it only reached number 2 in the UK since it charted kind of early when some stores got the single in early. I would really like to know where I could see those numbers.


UK stats:

American Life - #2
Hollywood - #2
Love Profusion - #11

Canada stats:

American Life - #2
Hollywood - #5
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Reply #8 posted 01/10/04 7:12am

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Maybe she'd have more luck if she just went into the studio
and recorded a new album.

Something that was less electronic and featured some long
and deep lyrics again, instead of 4 lines which are kept
repeated throughout the entire songs.

Once that's finished, just pick one damn song to be the
album's first single, make a kick ass video and stick to
that. Promote it and ship it to radio and tv and have a
decent single with some non album b-side track(s) and not
just 7 shitty remixes.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #9 posted 01/10/04 7:15am

endorphin74

IstenSzek said:

Maybe she'd have more luck if she just went into the studio
and recorded a new album.
...
Once that's finished, just pick one damn song to be the
album's first single, make a kick ass video and stick to
that. Promote it and ship it to radio and tv and have a
decent single with some non album b-side track(s) and not
just 7 shitty remixes.


nod

You summed it up perfectly there!
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Reply #10 posted 01/10/04 9:55am

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NPD313 said:

Madonna should stop with releasing new singles and maxi singles of remixed Hollywood and Into The Hollywood Groove on it!

She should just stop all together on promoting the american life album...warn- a- brutha...ain't doing shyt these days!!!


Girl get a new label and release some new music...without the techno theme...

Mirwais is a genius...when it came to the hit 'MUSIC'...but its over...unless he can come with another 'MUSIC' joint!!!

Maddy...call up Missy, Neptunes, and some old friends like David Foster, Babyface and maybe Lenny Kravitz!

Like get Lenny to rock out on guitar and duet with you!!!
Neptunes would love to reinvent Madonna and Missy just Loves you!!!


So get over the failed success of American Life and Move on to something new and refreshing thats HIP and POP...no more Techno experiments...Dance/Pop/Hip-Hop/R&B always worked in the past for Madonna...so perhaps it can get her a hit in the 2004!

Imagine this...MTV:


Madonna Mixes old and new from 'Neptunes, Missy Elliot, Lenny Kravitz, to David Foster and BabyFace...coolhuh!



Call up some really old friends like Steve Bray and Patrick Lenoard! that's what it might come down to! THey were kind of her Girigio and Pete altough she did fine without them but still that was kind of her golden era.

As far as promoting "American Life", Madonna has most certaintly moved on. When the EP came out, on that day (or day after) she was on Leno and it was never mentioned. This might be the work of Warners but I don't understand why since they aren't really trying to push the songs on radio at all and she isn't out there talking about the CD. If anything. this is an attempt to squezze money out of Madonna fans to make up for the difference. Shit. you know we'll buy it. I've bought every Madonna single after "American Pie" (I only bought one of the two imports) except for "Die Another Day". If you're a Madonna completist, think about it.

You bought the oringinal album or the Deluxe Edition AL:$9.99-$29.99
The Normal AL single:$2.99
Three maxi singles (AL, H, and NF):$6.99*3=20.97
AL Revisted...:$6.99-$10.99

That can add up to as much as $65 without tax or at the bare minimum over $40 if you bought the major discs on sale and only opted for the regular album. Ain't cheap! And that still doesn't include this new single!
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Reply #11 posted 01/10/04 11:38am

DavidEye

One thing you guys have to realize is,Madonna's singles are still doing well on the Dance music charts.So,maybe that's why she keeps releasing all these maxi-singles and numerous remixes.I doubt that anyone in her camp or at Warners truly expects "Love Profusion" to creep into the Top 40 on the pop charts.It's really just something to tide her fans over until the next album.Madonna releases a new album every two years,and every album has at least four singles,so the pattern for 'American Life' has been consistent with her other CDs.

I'm one of those Madonna fans that buys EVERYTHING so I have no problem with yet another set of remixes lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/10/04 11:44am

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IstenSzek said:

Maybe she'd have more luck if she just went into the studio
and recorded a new album.

Something that was less electronic and featured some long
and deep lyrics again, instead of 4 lines which are kept
repeated throughout the entire songs.

Once that's finished, just pick one damn song to be the
album's first single, make a kick ass video and stick to
that. Promote it and ship it to radio and tv and have a
decent single with some non album b-side track(s) and not
just 7 shitty remixes.

You got it, man. nod

Also, the tough part of being a great chameleon like Madonna is that eventully you run out of colors. She's done saccharine pop. She's done hip hop. She's done techno... to death. I think it's time for her to transform again -- this time into lusher orchestrations, more acoustic instrumentations and the lyrics of a mature artist, a 40-something mother and a woman who's effectively ruled the pop cultural world for two decades...

It may sound boring, but I'd honestly like to see her work with a lyricist like Joni Mitchell (of whom she's a big fan). If you've ever read Joni's lyrics, they read like social critiques or short fiction -- full of thoughtful words, not repeated phrases, but they're rarely pretentious and self-involved. I'd love to hear how she could help Madonna flesh out the messages she scratched the surface of on Ray of Light.

As music goes, I also would like to see Madonna turn to sounds other than what's currently trendy. Hold off on the electronic stuff, Missy, the Neptunes and ESPECIALLY that tired-ass Lenny Kravitz! She could hit us with one or two kick-ass dance tracks just to show us she's still there, but I'd like to hear her experiment with experimental fusion sounds like MeShell's or Peter and Vanessa Daou's on the funky side, or a Dido/Natalie Merchant sort of vibe on the introspective side. Also, though I definitely DON'T want her to get fixed in it (I'm even hesitant to suggest it), I'd be interested in hearing a reference to the newer R&B sound on one track... maybe a SINGLE duet with someone respected in the neo-soul world, yet wierd enough that he's not at all defined by its derivative parameters. A STRICTLY hit-and-run thing with someone like Maxwell would be perfect.

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Reply #13 posted 01/10/04 12:31pm

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By the way, I called A&F and I guess the song they were playing is "Nothing Fails." I checked the first few seconds of the album version on a fileshare site, but it sounded too subdued -- nothing like I heard. What are the huge clubby mixes of that song?
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Reply #14 posted 01/11/04 10:50am

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i'd really really really like for her to do a new album right away, and work with those Headcleanr people and whoever the Mount Sims people are. both have a retro sound that works surprisingly well, one being rock and the other synth-pop. those things, in my opinion, were the best remixes that came out of this project, and i think alternating work between those 2 camps would mesh surprisingly well on the next Madonna album.
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Reply #15 posted 01/11/04 1:37pm

TRON

AaronAlmighty said:

i'd really really really like for her to do a new album right away, and work with those Headcleanr people and whoever the Mount Sims people are. both have a retro sound that works surprisingly well, one being rock and the other synth-pop. those things, in my opinion, were the best remixes that came out of this project, and i think alternating work between those 2 camps would mesh surprisingly well on the next Madonna album.

Throw Missy in the mix for production and writing, and you've got yourself a winner. wink
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Reply #16 posted 01/11/04 5:34pm

charlottegelin

She looks real tired (red eyes) in the vid for this song, and what's with that floral frock? Song is "nice".
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Reply #17 posted 01/11/04 5:42pm

SassyBritches

Lammastide said:

It may sound boring, but I'd honestly like to see her work with a lyricist like Joni Mitchell (of whom she's a big fan). If you've ever read Joni's lyrics, they read like social critiques or short fiction -- full of thoughtful words, not repeated phrases, but they're rarely pretentious and self-involved. I'd love to hear how she could help Madonna flesh out the messages she scratched the surface of on Ray of Light.

i think that is a great idea. i would love to see madonna develop more, in that way. unfortunately, joni mitchell is one of those music snobs who thinks nobody is as good as her and her crew. i once read an interview with her (rolling stone maybe or details) that she doesn't like anyone in pop music. she said sheryl crow is a joke. madonna was a disgrace. she went to talk a bunch about geffen records. all in all, she seemed really bitter and self involved, which was really sad considering the subject matter in her work.
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SassyBritches said:

i once read an interview with her (rolling stone maybe or details) that she doesn't like anyone in pop music. she said sheryl crow is a joke. madonna was a disgrace. she went to talk a bunch about geffen records. all in all, she seemed really bitter and self involved, which was really sad considering the subject matter in her work.



JONI DISSED SHERYL??!!! HOW DARE SHE?!!
Let the rain come down...17 days....
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Reply #19 posted 01/11/04 5:54pm

SassyBritches

purplegypsy said:

SassyBritches said:

i once read an interview with her (rolling stone maybe or details) that she doesn't like anyone in pop music. she said sheryl crow is a joke. madonna was a disgrace. she went to talk a bunch about geffen records. all in all, she seemed really bitter and self involved, which was really sad considering the subject matter in her work.



JONI DISSED SHERYL??!!! HOW DARE SHE?!!

especially since sheryl has total stevie realness!
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Reply #20 posted 01/11/04 11:27pm

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SassyBritches said:

Lammastide said:

It may sound boring, but I'd honestly like to see her work with a lyricist like Joni Mitchell (of whom she's a big fan). If you've ever read Joni's lyrics, they read like social critiques or short fiction -- full of thoughtful words, not repeated phrases, but they're rarely pretentious and self-involved. I'd love to hear how she could help Madonna flesh out the messages she scratched the surface of on Ray of Light.

i think that is a great idea. i would love to see madonna develop more, in that way. unfortunately, joni mitchell is one of those music snobs who thinks nobody is as good as her and her crew. i once read an interview with her (rolling stone maybe or details) that she doesn't like anyone in pop music. she said sheryl crow is a joke. madonna was a disgrace. she went to talk a bunch about geffen records. all in all, she seemed really bitter and self involved, which was really sad considering the subject matter in her work.

You make a good point. I hear she even dissed Sting's songwriting abilities.
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Reply #21 posted 01/12/04 3:46am

DavidEye

Whatever direction Madonna decides to go in,she should definitely work with more than ONE producer for the next CD.Mirwais is extremely talented,but,by now,it's clear that he has run out of ideas.I'd like for Maddy to make a diverse,soulful album with more real instruments and less techno.These are the folks she should consider working with...


***Jamiroquai---listen to their last album 'A Funk Odyssey'.These guys have a cool,retro funk sound.Madonna could do a couple of kickass dance tracks with these guys.

***Remy Shand---he's really talented and not yet a big star.That's a plus,because Madonna usually likes to work with people who have YET to make it big.The two of them could come up with several midtempo tracks,with Remy adding background vocals,or possibly a duet.I get chills just thinking about a collaboration like this!

***Dallas Austin---Madonna worked with him on the 'Bedtime Stories' album and the two of them came up with great songs like "Secret".Why not explore that sound a little more?


Record a handful of tracks with those guys and she would have a great album.But knowing Madonna,she'll probably work with someone we've never heard of.
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Reply #22 posted 01/12/04 4:32am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

endorphin74 said:

rolleyes

I hate to say this since I like the album, but...

GIVE UP ALREADY!!!


Lol, yeah, I've never seen someone release so many non-charting singles from what was a commercial disappointment (only in the US, though).


lol but if you're a fan,why would you complain about getting multiple singles from an album? Just enjoy the fact that we're getting all these goodies.
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Reply #23 posted 01/12/04 7:00am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:

endorphin74 said:

rolleyes

I hate to say this since I like the album, but...

GIVE UP ALREADY!!!


Lol, yeah, I've never seen someone release so many non-charting singles from what was a commercial disappointment (only in the US, though).


lol but if you're a fan,why would you complain about getting multiple singles from an album? Just enjoy the fact that we're getting all these goodies.


As a fan, I'm grateful. Unfortunately, the mixes are HARDLY up to par (were these rush jobs or what?). When Madonna cares about a single, we get a job well done (What It Feels Like For A Girl). When she doesn't, we get 8 faceless Rauhofer sound-alike dance mixes (Nothing Fails).
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DavidEye said:

One thing you guys have to realize is,Madonna's singles are still doing well on the Dance music charts.So,maybe that's why she keeps releasing all these maxi-singles and numerous remixes.I doubt that anyone in her camp or at Warners truly expects "Love Profusion" to creep into the Top 40 on the pop charts.It's really just something to tide her fans over until the next album.Madonna releases a new album every two years,and every album has at least four singles,so the pattern for 'American Life' has been consistent with her other CDs.

I'm one of those Madonna fans that buys EVERYTHING so I have no problem with yet another set of remixes lol



Actually, no it hasn't. Warners dropped "Music" after "What it Feels Like For A Girl", which was extermly odd since it had much more commerical sounding songs on there. Plus. "What.." was a slight hit, even if it was more like a ballad compared to "Music" and "Don't Tell Me". So it really isn't consistant. Plus, two singles in less than two months? That just isn't normal. I think WB is trying to push the single again since some of their artists are getting airplay. Jewel also has a new single out for "2 Beomce 1". I've never even heard of her previous single "Stand", which is out in two forms!
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Reply #25 posted 01/12/04 10:40am

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VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:

endorphin74 said:

rolleyes

I hate to say this since I like the album, but...

GIVE UP ALREADY!!!


Lol, yeah, I've never seen someone release so many non-charting singles from what was a commercial disappointment (only in the US, though).


lol but if you're a fan,why would you complain about getting multiple singles from an album? Just enjoy the fact that we're getting all these goodies.


As a fan, I'm grateful. Unfortunately, the mixes are HARDLY up to par (were these rush jobs are what?). When Madonna cares about a single, we get a job well done (What It Feels Like For A Girl). When she doesn't, we get 8 faceless Rauhofer sound-alike dance mixes (Nothing Fails).



I have the "What It Feels Like For A Girl" maxi but never gave it much of a listen. I think I remember a Madonna interview where she talked about really being involved in the remixes (as far as what stays, what goes and who). This interivew was done around the time "Secret" came out and those remixes are nothing short of remarkable (if you ask me).

The Rauhofer/Oakenfield/Headcleaner crap we can do without (although I really liked several of the AL remixes).
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>Whatever direction Madonna decides to go in,she should definitely work with more than ONE producer for the next CD.Mirwais is extremely talented,but,by now,it's clear that he has run out of ideas.I'd like for Maddy to make a diverse,soulful album with more real instruments and less techno.These are the folks she should consider working with...

***Jamiroquai---listen to their last album 'A Funk Odyssey'.These guys have a cool,retro funk sound.Madonna could do a couple of kickass dance tracks with these guys.

***Remy Shand---he's really talented and not yet a big star.That's a plus,because Madonna usually likes to work with people who have YET to make it big.The two of them could come up with several midtempo tracks,with Remy adding background vocals,or possibly a duet.I get chills just thinking about a collaboration like this!

***Dallas Austin---Madonna worked with him on the 'Bedtime Stories' album and the two of them came up with great songs like "Secret".Why not explore that sound a little more?>

I like the way you think, Davideye! By the way, not to get off topic, but what did you think of the Chicago box set you got for Christmas?
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Reply #27 posted 01/12/04 11:22am

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DavidEye said:

Whatever direction Madonna decides to go in,she should definitely work with more than ONE producer for the next CD.Mirwais is extremely talented,but,by now,it's clear that he has run out of ideas.I'd like for Maddy to make a diverse,soulful album with more real instruments and less techno.These are the folks she should consider working with...


***Jamiroquai---listen to their last album 'A Funk Odyssey'.These guys have a cool,retro funk sound.Madonna could do a couple of kickass dance tracks with these guys.

***Remy Shand---he's really talented and not yet a big star.That's a plus,because Madonna usually likes to work with people who have YET to make it big.The two of them could come up with several midtempo tracks,with Remy adding background vocals,or possibly a duet.I get chills just thinking about a collaboration like this!

***Dallas Austin---Madonna worked with him on the 'Bedtime Stories' album and the two of them came up with great songs like "Secret".Why not explore that sound a little more?


Record a handful of tracks with those guys and she would have a great album.But knowing Madonna,she'll probably work with someone we've never heard of.



no, i'm sorry, i don't like it. you said she shouldn't work with Mirwais again because he's run out of ideas. i think that's the problem, even moreso, with her working with Dallas and Jamiroquai. they can occasionally find a new groove to work for the following 5 years, but at this point, neither is doing anything new at all. and Remy Shand... nah. she needs a professional.

at this point, i've worked myself into the idea so much, that i'll ONLY accept her doing an album with Headcleanr and Mount Sims (and maybe Missy, as TRON mentioned). it's the only exciting and viable option i can see for her at this point lol i'll accept no substitutes hmph!
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Reply #28 posted 01/12/04 11:26am

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VinnyM27 said:

DavidEye said:

One thing you guys have to realize is,Madonna's singles are still doing well on the Dance music charts.So,maybe that's why she keeps releasing all these maxi-singles and numerous remixes.I doubt that anyone in her camp or at Warners truly expects "Love Profusion" to creep into the Top 40 on the pop charts.It's really just something to tide her fans over until the next album.Madonna releases a new album every two years,and every album has at least four singles,so the pattern for 'American Life' has been consistent with her other CDs.

I'm one of those Madonna fans that buys EVERYTHING so I have no problem with yet another set of remixes lol



Actually, no it hasn't. Warners dropped "Music" after "What it Feels Like For A Girl", which was extermly odd since it had much more commerical sounding songs on there. Plus. "What.." was a slight hit, even if it was more like a ballad compared to "Music" and "Don't Tell Me". So it really isn't consistant. Plus, two singles in less than two months? That just isn't normal. I think WB is trying to push the single again since some of their artists are getting airplay. Jewel also has a new single out for "2 Beomce 1". I've never even heard of her previous single "Stand", which is out in two forms!




well WB *did* have further plans for the MUSIC album at the time. Amazing was selected by them as the next single, and they even sent a promo out for it in Europe. Madonna wanted to do Impressive Instant instead, and she put their foot down over it. she even removed Amazing from the DWT setlist to keep Warner from getting ideas about doing a live video for it. a compromise was reached by making Impressive Instant an club-only promo single. further plans to do Runaway Lover were abandoned (though Calderone and Tracy Young had both already done remixes for it).
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Reply #29 posted 01/12/04 11:49am

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Madonna working with Missy? Ugh. Missy's suffering from overexposure as it is. Must she appear on every urban record these days?
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