Is anyone else as peeved about this latest trend as I am? I listen to the majority of my music via my mp3 collection, so when I buy a disc, I rip it to my hard drive, and then transfer it to an mp3 player. I'm tired of constantly changing discs.

Not possible with these, so I don't buy them. I understand the labels' predicament, but they've also lost about $50 in revenue from me -- and I know many are also boycotting these 'locked' discs, some of which have refused to play even on conventional CD players.

The Beatles - Let It Be (Naked) and the import version of The Pet Shop Boys double disc hits set won't be in my collection

yep. I'm buying an iPod next month and I'm a bit peeved that Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is copy controlled

I won't buy them either.

Ellie said:

why ?

the less people that hear that crap - the better .

Personally, I have not experienced any problems ripping Copy Controlled CDs to my MP3 player.

I use Nero to rip them and they all playback fine. What are you guys using?

Ellie said:

Mine isn't, i ripped it no problem.

I've had no problems ripping Copy Controlled or Enhanced CDs. I use CDex.

Raven said:

thanks for the tip.

yep, I bought Let it Be Naked, but for the most part I don't buy newly released Cds, so it's not a problem for me.

Raven said:

Thanks for the tip. I might buy one and see how it goes. I'd avoided buying them because I'd heard various horror stories about the technology (ie. can't play it on select CD players)

No problem with Music Match Jukebox either.

Just copied Pop Art Triple Cd Edition
with a Copy Controlled label and it plays fine.

PANDURITO said:

Ok, I'm buying it now, lol.

The record companies think they have us beat--no, they do not. lol.

2freaky4church1 said:

I just didn't want to waste my money, since in Canada you can't return a CD due to copyright laws.

Ellie said:

Not the Canadian copies. I copied them for a friend.
[This message was edited Sun Dec 21 1:48:12 PST 2003 by Shapeshifter]

Shapeshifter said:

I don't the American ones are copy controlled either.I burned it for my friend. And the cd's usually have a sticker or something on it telling you it's copy controlled.

Well, it took a while, but I was finally able to copy the Pet Shop Boys PopArt collection to mp3s. Had to try out a few diff. programs and use an 85 cent felt tip pen to black out the "copy control technology" portion of the disc (the outer rim), thereby defeating their $85 million technology.

VoicesCarry said:

Let It Be...Naked doesn't appear to be copy-protected either (I didn't have a problem with it.

lyricsdaddy said:

The Pet Shop Boys one was...I think it just depends on what program you're using to rip.

there is always gonna be a way to get beyond that stupid protection policy.. I imagine in the next few months a program will be availible to get the songs without any trouble

VoicesCarry said:

I was able to rip the new outkast no problem but could not rip Anthony Hamelton's CD using Music Match. I don't think it's the software as much as it is the disk. It seems some of the outkast disks are burn protected and some are not.
[This message was edited Mon Dec 22 15:51:07 PST 2003 by intha916]

intha916 said:

No universal laws for labelling copy controlled (corrupted) discs mean that you can never tell one way or another And they wonder why CD sales are plumetting?

Additionally, many copy controlled discs do not conform to the audio fidelity standards (Red Book Standards) developed by Phillips in 1978. So in effect you're not buying an audio CD, you're buying an inferior product.

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VoicesCarry said:

The Anthony Hamelton disc I have does says it's copy protected on the front

VoicesCarry said:

Exactly - these are NOT really Compact Discs, they are lumps of crappy plastic.

You should be able to get your money back if they sold it as a CD and it isn't (eg you can't play it in your car, on your computer etc.), at least in the UK.

If it doesn't play on a Compact Disc compatible device, it isn't a Compact Disc. Simple as that.

ONLY EVER BUY CDs THAT CARRY THE COMPACT DISC LOGO!