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Reply #30 posted 12/22/03 1:45pm

Sdldawn

George Michael
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Reply #31 posted 12/22/03 2:41pm

jolajeph

Matt Goss, an amazing voice!
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Reply #32 posted 12/22/03 3:04pm

namepeace

To second Blaque, Amel Larrieuz has a beautiful voice.

To second okaypimpin, Caron Wheeler has a fantastic voice.

To second Ellie, TTD has a great voice.

I'd like to add a few:

Johnny Hartman: One of the greatest singers I have ever heard.

Ella Fitzgerald: I don't see her name come up on this site that much, but to me she is the gold standard.

Michael McDonald

Cassandra Wilson
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Reply #33 posted 12/22/03 3:16pm

VoicesCarry

Gioia Bruno (lead singer of Exposé)

A gorgeous, mellifluous voice perfectly suited to ballads, dance, or Latin flamenco.
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Reply #34 posted 12/22/03 6:13pm

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LEWIS TAYLOR, I can't believe how many people don't know this guy, i must have listened to his first cd every day for over 2 years!
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Reply #35 posted 12/23/03 12:01am

JANFAN4L

Janet Jackson
Billy Lawrence
Alana Davis
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K'Alyn
Olu
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Reply #36 posted 12/23/03 1:03am

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Jocelyn Brown
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Reply #37 posted 12/23/03 1:38am

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Funny how no one's mentioned Prince here. For all the
praise Prince always got for his songwriting and his
skill at playing a dozen instruments or simply being
an enigma, very few praises ever went to his actual
voice and the range of his vocals.

The fact that he's recorded nearly 1000 songs and
manages to sound slightly different again in each
and every one of them.

He surely deserves more credit for his vocals than he
got.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #38 posted 12/23/03 2:30am

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janet jackson is not underrated. if she's anything then she's overrated as an entertainer. i can't say that i've ever heard a song by her where i've thought: "man, she can really sing!" the total package has just always been right with janet. except for her last album 'all for you'. she does not appeal to me anymore. the look, the music; their both as plastic as can be. and the fact that she lip-synched her entire "live" show didn't do well with me either.
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Reply #39 posted 12/23/03 3:03am

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Madonna. she doesn't have a great technical vocal talent (though that's improved since Evita), but she has a way of infusing a song, even the silliest love song, with an emotion, and can make you feel what the song is supposed to be about.


actually, i prefer her pre-training voice to the modern one. there's less feeling in it, and more trying to get all of the notes right. not that getting the notes right is bad, but i liked it when she was just winging it and singing her guts out, i.e, Open Your Heart, Oh Father, Bad Girl, etc.
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Reply #40 posted 12/23/03 3:09am

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Does Janet lip sync her shows?? I never knew that
That's really sad, even Ashanti sings lve (maybe she shouldn't though)
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Reply #41 posted 12/23/03 3:43am

CinisterCee

I don't think Janet lipsyncs in her concerts?

She definitely lipsyncs directly off of the well-known studio versions sometimes for television.

"All For You" for MTV Icon [2001]
"Together Again (DJ Premier Remix)" for 1999's American Music Awards
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Reply #42 posted 12/23/03 8:24am

VoicesCarry

twink69 said:

Does Janet lip sync her shows?? I never knew that
That's really sad, even Ashanti sings lve (maybe she shouldn't though)


Yes, at least that's the word from other Janet fans I've talked to. It's pretty damn difficult to sing clearly and smoothly when you're dancing frenetically at the same time, so I don't think it's due to lack of a voice. On SOME songs (slower ones like "Again"), it's plainly obvious that she IS singing, not miming. But on the faster tracks she usually mimes (that was a big problem with The Velvet Rope tour, I thought).

If you look at footage of Madonna's tours, however, she's always sung live, so it can be done. What she typically does is separate her vocals from her dancing (ex: extended instrumental interludes during 'Don't Tell Me' and 'Music' on the Drowned World Tour). Other than that, she sings, and does so while exerting herself minimally (walking around the stage or doing some really light, fluid moves). Janet goes hardcore, though, so it's harder for her I think. A track like 'Alright' was meant for constant dancing. There's no break in movement.
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Reply #43 posted 12/23/03 8:31am

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i can't say that i'm a fan of her style or her music , but,
this girl LIL MO has some skills on her.

:PIMP:
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Reply #44 posted 12/23/03 8:37am

CinisterCee

I think Janet's Velvet Rope tour was trying to use alot of the familiar choreography from the music videos. Like "Escapade", every syllable of the hook has a huge physical movement.. hard to dance and sing that one.

Come - on - bay - be - Let's - get - a - way

Yknow?
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Reply #45 posted 12/23/03 8:40am

VoicesCarry

CinisterCee said:

I think Janet's Velvet Rope tour was trying to use alot of the familiar choreography from the music videos. Like "Escapade", every syllable of the hook has a huge physical movement.. hard to dance and sing that one.

Come - on - bay - be - Let's - get - a - way

Yknow?


Yeah, she DOESN'T have a shitty voice, so it's not a problem in that department. Her performance of "Again" at the Oscars in 1994 should attest to that.
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Reply #46 posted 12/23/03 9:28am

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janet does lip synch most of her shows (except the ballads), but at least she re-records a new vocal track, to make it at least a little different than the album versions. i think she started doing this A LOT during Velvet Rope, especially for tv appearances, and has done it for most of the songs on the last 2 tours, at least.
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Reply #47 posted 12/23/03 1:28pm

Rhondab

I'd rather watch Anita Baker stand with just a mic than watch Janet lip-sync and dance all over the place. Talent is viewed so differently nowadays.
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Reply #48 posted 12/23/03 1:55pm

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Rhondab said:

I'd rather watch Anita Baker stand with just a mic than watch Janet lip-sync and dance all over the place. Talent is viewed so differently nowadays.




talent encompasses many different things, though. Burt Bacharach is a very talented songwriter, but that doesn't mean he's any good at singing. talent includes the ability to entertain.
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Reply #49 posted 12/23/03 2:40pm

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ME!

Beverly Knight.
Kylie (yes, she does have a good voice (now) )
Candy Dulfer.
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
Sarah Cracknell
Suzanne Vega
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Reply #50 posted 12/23/03 7:16pm

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VoicesCarry said:

CinisterCee said:

I think Janet's Velvet Rope tour was trying to use alot of the familiar choreography from the music videos. Like "Escapade", every syllable of the hook has a huge physical movement.. hard to dance and sing that one.

Come - on - bay - be - Let's - get - a - way

Yknow?


Yeah, she DOESN'T have a shitty voice, so it's not a problem in that department. Her performance of "Again" at the Oscars in 1994 should attest to that.


Janet has a beautiful voice. She's often overlooked because she doesn't particularly have a real "big" voice, but her voice is smooth and beautiful. Janet is definitely underrated as far as singing goes. She puts all of her energy into her performance live, but when she's sitting down to sing, she really sings it and never misses a note. And I'm glad you remembered her Oscar performance... she sounded great!
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #51 posted 12/24/03 7:17am

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Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
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Reply #52 posted 12/24/03 7:19am

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CinisterCee said:

I don't think Janet lipsyncs in her concerts?

She definitely lipsyncs directly off of the well-known studio versions sometimes for television.

"All For You" for MTV Icon [2001]
"Together Again (DJ Premier Remix)" for 1999's American Music Awards

She even records new 'live' versions in the studio 2 be performed when she does a concert.
Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
The Funk will always b with u
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Reply #53 posted 12/24/03 12:54pm

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What about Faith Evans? I think she has a great voice.
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Reply #54 posted 12/24/03 1:14pm

VoicesCarry

syl said:

What about Faith Evans? I think she has a great voice.
[This message was edited Wed Dec 24 12:55:53 PST 2003 by syl]


I can't believe I forgot about her. She's criminally underappreciated.
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Reply #55 posted 12/25/03 9:25pm

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Another person that I think has a beautiful voice and is underrated is Faith Hill. I don't really like country at all, and I know her recent material is basically pop, but even her older country stuff is great.

They're all good, but her last two albums, 'Breathe' and 'Cry' are really awesome. But what's her next album going to be called? 'Shit'? What's with the bodily functions?
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #56 posted 12/25/03 9:51pm

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VoicesCarry said:

twink69 said:

Does Janet lip sync her shows?? I never knew that
That's really sad, even Ashanti sings lve (maybe she shouldn't though)


Yes, at least that's the word from other Janet fans I've talked to. It's pretty damn difficult to sing clearly and smoothly when you're dancing frenetically at the same time, so I don't think it's due to lack of a voice. On SOME songs (slower ones like "Again"), it's plainly obvious that she IS singing, not miming. But on the faster tracks she usually mimes (that was a big problem with The Velvet Rope tour, I thought).

If you look at footage of Madonna's tours, however, she's always sung live, so it can be done. What she typically does is separate her vocals from her dancing (ex: extended instrumental interludes during 'Don't Tell Me' and 'Music' on the Drowned World Tour). Other than that, she sings, and does so while exerting herself minimally (walking around the stage or doing some really light, fluid moves). Janet goes hardcore, though, so it's harder for her I think. A track like 'Alright' was meant for constant dancing. There's no break in movement.


Christina Aguilera did it, she was jumping everywhere in chaps to diirty and sang
I would rather Janet dance less and sing more, I know soo many people who were really pissed off after seeng her on the velvet rope tour


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[This message was edited Thu Dec 25 21:52:21 PST 2003 by twink69]
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Reply #57 posted 12/26/03 4:27am

VoicesCarry

twink69 said:

VoicesCarry said:

twink69 said:

Does Janet lip sync her shows?? I never knew that
That's really sad, even Ashanti sings lve (maybe she shouldn't though)


Yes, at least that's the word from other Janet fans I've talked to. It's pretty damn difficult to sing clearly and smoothly when you're dancing frenetically at the same time, so I don't think it's due to lack of a voice. On SOME songs (slower ones like "Again"), it's plainly obvious that she IS singing, not miming. But on the faster tracks she usually mimes (that was a big problem with The Velvet Rope tour, I thought).

If you look at footage of Madonna's tours, however, she's always sung live, so it can be done. What she typically does is separate her vocals from her dancing (ex: extended instrumental interludes during 'Don't Tell Me' and 'Music' on the Drowned World Tour). Other than that, she sings, and does so while exerting herself minimally (walking around the stage or doing some really light, fluid moves). Janet goes hardcore, though, so it's harder for her I think. A track like 'Alright' was meant for constant dancing. There's no break in movement.


Christina Aguilera did it, she was jumping everywhere in chaps to diirty and sang
I would rather Janet dance less and sing more, I know soo many people who were really pissed off after seeng her on the velvet rope tour


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[This message was edited Thu Dec 25 21:52:21 PST 2003 by twink69]


Christina Aguilera dancing and Janet dancing are two completely different things. Christina Aguilera CANNOT dance.
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Reply #58 posted 12/26/03 11:13am

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twink69 said:

VoicesCarry said:

twink69 said:

Does Janet lip sync her shows?? I never knew that
That's really sad, even Ashanti sings lve (maybe she shouldn't though)


Yes, at least that's the word from other Janet fans I've talked to. It's pretty damn difficult to sing clearly and smoothly when you're dancing frenetically at the same time, so I don't think it's due to lack of a voice. On SOME songs (slower ones like "Again"), it's plainly obvious that she IS singing, not miming. But on the faster tracks she usually mimes (that was a big problem with The Velvet Rope tour, I thought).

If you look at footage of Madonna's tours, however, she's always sung live, so it can be done. What she typically does is separate her vocals from her dancing (ex: extended instrumental interludes during 'Don't Tell Me' and 'Music' on the Drowned World Tour). Other than that, she sings, and does so while exerting herself minimally (walking around the stage or doing some really light, fluid moves). Janet goes hardcore, though, so it's harder for her I think. A track like 'Alright' was meant for constant dancing. There's no break in movement.


Christina Aguilera did it, she was jumping everywhere in chaps to diirty and sang
I would rather Janet dance less and sing more, I know soo many people who were really pissed off after seeng her on the velvet rope tour


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[This message was edited Thu Dec 25 21:52:21 PST 2003 by twink69]



i imagine they were pissed more because it was exactly the same as the "janet." show. imagine the fury incited by her doing the same show a 3rd time with the AFY tour.
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Reply #59 posted 12/26/03 11:14am

namepeace

twink69 said:


Christina Aguilera did it, she was jumping everywhere in chaps to diirty and sang
I would rather Janet dance less and sing more, I know soo many people who were really pissed off after seeng her on the velvet rope tour


I had a great time at the Velvet Rope show, and I buy Janet's LPs, because I appreciate the fact that Janet is neither an artist or a singer. She is an entertainer. She uses all of her abilities "in toto": limited voice, great looks, great dance moves, incredible charisma, and talented producers: to make fans and keep fans. That's what makes me a fan.
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