Wondering how many people bought this one. ANd did anyone have any trouble finding it. I actually found the CD at a Meijer wtih all her other albums and not with the sinlges. In fact, Meijer had copies of all the AL maxi singles and the regular AL single. Anyway, I saw this odd loooking CD that was mostly this pinkish brown color with a lot writing and kind of moved it out of the way thinking somebody just placed it there, then I looked at that sticker and it said "Madonna Nothing Fails". The picture of here, from the Gap commericals I assume, is tiny as hell! And I really am not in the remixes. I find it funny that they place athe lyrics all over the booklet, and backcovers but most of the remixes are dubs. The only one that is decent is the first one by Peter Rauhofer. Anyway, I just wish they would have had some simpler remixes along with the original on there. I kind of have to listen to it again to give it a review. What do people think about it?

Still haven't even looked for it. I like the EP though.

I haven't gotten this maxi-single either.I'll pick this up this weekend.I'm dying to hear the Peter Rauhofer remix of "Nobody knows Me".

I'm so confused...I thought Love Profusion was the next single???

endorphin74 said:

I just picked up the 'Nothing Fails/Nobody Knows Me' maxi single the other day. I think the remixes suck. And I ALSO thought 'Love Profusion was the next single...which I think should have been. There's a video, the song is great and the version on REMIXED & REVISITED rocks as well.

The remixes are awful. Wow.

Methinks I'll stick with Annie Lennox/Seal/Janet Jackson Maxis from now on.

And this is coming from a die-hard Madonna fan.

VoicesCarry said:

I've never really liked her remixes but have bought most of the recent maxis (I actually skipped the "Argentina" one which is surprising becuase I love the dance mix). I did like a few of the "American Life" (as in the track, not the album) mixes but these aren't very good. She needs better remixes with better ideas. Something tells me she doesn't care about her remixes anymore.

VinnyM27 said:

Everything up until the end of the Music era I enjoyed. I haven't liked any of the AL maxis. I don't know why Madonna keeps trying to sell this project. It was a colossal failure from the get-go.

VoicesCarry said:

Something Fails.

CinisterCee said:

Lol, even though I'm a major fan, I'm going to be realistic and say she needs to RETIRE. It's time. I don't want her to slowly fade over several albums, tainting her legacy as she goes. Just go out with a bang and have a kickass time running Maverick, writing and producing. Make good pop music that way.

VoicesCarry said:

See, I just think it was time for people to "hate Madonna." She's suffered flops before and bounced back perfectly fine. I do think she could take a break for a minute though, finish up with her children's books and THEN do a new album...let the "Madonna's Over" hubbub die down and then wow us all again...

love profusion just debuted at #11 on the english charts.

nobody knows me and nothing fails are both in the top 20 on the us dance charts and me against the music is #1.

it's her 31 #1 dance song and this makes 45 that have charted. pretty impressive.

VoicesCarry said:

So because she has ONE album that doesn't sell well,and you think it's time for her to retire?! That's ludicrous.Prince hasn't had a hit album in years,shall he retire as well? EVERY artist sells less records as their career goes on (just ask Lionel Ritchie,Hall and Oates,Pat Benatar,Cyndi Lauper and others).That's a given.But I would never want them to just stop giving us music.At this point,record sales are not really important for an artist like Madonna anyway.She doesn't have to prove anything.I want her to keep doing what she's doing...making music that she feels and giving it to the fans.If it's a hit,that's great,if not,that's okay too.

iwishyouheaven said:

"MADONNA SCORES HAT TRICK ON DANCE CHART"

By Michael Paoletta

NEW YORK (Billboard)- In this issue,Madonna has three titles on the Hot Dance Club Play chart: "Me Against The Music" with Britney Spears (No.2),"Nobody Knows Me" (No.4), and "Nothing Fails" (No.30).

This has not happened sicne the Feb.9,1985 issue,when U.K. trio Bronski Beat had three titles on that chart: "Smalltown Boy" (No. 2),"The Age Of Consent" (No.20) and "Why" (No.75).

Additionally,"Nothing Fails" is Madonna's 45th Club Play entry; "Nobody Knows Me" and "Me Against The Music" are her 41st and 42nd top 10 hits on the chart.

Do not be surprised if "Me Against The Music" reaches the chart's summit.If this does indeed happen,it would be the Maverick/Warner Bros. artist's 30th No.1 on the chart.

Also worth noting is that Madonna and Bronski Beat debuted in the early 80s,when disco splintered into a variety of sounds.But unlike the U.K. trio,Madonna continually changes with the times.Her new EP,"Remixed and Revisited" which debuted at No.115 on the Billboard 200 the week of Dec.13,interwines rock and electronica.


Reuters/Billboard

VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

I agree,"Love Profusion" should have been the next (and final) single.It's a catchy,sexy song with a beautiful video."Nothing Fails" is very overrated.

But,I'm glad to see that "Love Profucion" is doing well in Europe,where the video has been released.

DavidEye said:

We're never going to agree about this.

TRON said:

don't get me wrong,I do like the song.It has a beautiful melody and the lyrics are great.But I don't think it's a Madonna classic.

Yeah, take THAT Bronksi Beat

CinisterCee said:

If nothing else,the above article from Billboard shows that Madonna is still extremely popular in the clubs and on the Dance Music charts.That seems to be her strongest audience these days,which may explain all of these recent remixes.

by the way, the Nothing Fails single debuted at #1 on the singles SALES chart.


unfortunately, in this modern age, that's not even enough to even place on the Hot 100 without any airplay.

AaronAlmighty said:

So true.And her two previous singles ("American Life" and "Hollywood") also did reasonably well on the *SALES* chart.But lack of radio airplay prevented these songs from doing well on the Hot 100 charts.

Also,"Hollywood" reached Number One on the Dance/Club Play charts.

DavidEye said:

Maxis don't sell that much anymore, though. Airplay IS a better overall representation of mass popularity. 5000 copies of a maxi sold is negligible at best, so I understand why sales basically no longer count. A changing singles market dictated new chart rules.

VoicesCarry said:

indeed, and it deterred the US charts from becoming what the British singles charts have become... where a #2 or even top 10 debut is considered "unsuccessful"


on the other hand, sales should count for something, and being the #1 single sold in a week ought to at least count for enough points to get it on the Hot 100. the current system is too extreme. i liked it when they allowed radio-only singles to chart, but factored in sales points higher than airplay points (back in late 98 and 99 i think).

I'm just happy that AL got 4 maxi-singles & a remix cd released to support it. I didn't think AL was that terrible & I've enjoyed the remixes included Nothing Fails. For a flop cd WB/Maverick did a good job of continuing to promote even when sales were low. When I sit down to listen to music AL & its cd singles give me a lot to chose from.

VoicesCarry said:

Really? Not if you ask most music fans that are six of the same 10 songs that Clear Channel pumps down your thoart. I understand what you're saying. They need to bring sell through singles back and let the people decide what they want to hear!

And while AL is not my favorite album, I hardly think she should retire. AL was a different kind of album and wasn't realy meant to be that big of a hit. I wouldn't blame Madonna for still pushing AL either. That looks more like the work of Warner Bros. Keep in mind, she never even mentioned the new EP on shows like Lettermen or Leno (and she was there the week it came out).

VinnyM27 said:

While it's obvious that radio is perhaps more representative of Tommy Mottola's whims than the public's, 5000 maxi single buyers definitely cannot determine chart rankings. Radio airplay is all they have left, and I understand their position. I agree with you, though - they need to repopularize the single format. However, releasing crappy remixes is not the way to start. A good example of how they could go about it would be the Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation series released in Japan. Eight gorgeous sets featuring all the globally-released remixes (which were excellent and VARIED) plus the LP version. Why is it that record companies almost never put the LP version on a single anymore? Because it's an underhanded way to get us to buy the $20 album. No wonder both single AND album sales are down. Between this and the price fixing scandal, people are getting pissed off. Maxis today are just filled with homogenized Rauhofer remixes. Make them good again, and I'll buy.

As for Madonna's retirement, I think it's inevitable. Why? I loved AL, but Madge is nearing the end of her reign. Her choice of AL as the first single was horrible, then she decided to fuck it up even more by recalling the controversial video. Since when has Madonna shunned controversy? Perhaps she's losing her touch. She's also diverging into new careers (writing, producing films, etc.) and looking for a new queen to crown (she tried with Britney, but I don't think that worked; Britney's too stupid to manage her career like Madge did). As I see it, Madonna has 2 options:

a) Keep making music. No matter how you cut it, she'll never be what she was, since a 50-year-old woman just doesn't appeal to the youth crowd. She's going to turn into Cher, basically. Touring relentlessly and rehashing her glorious past for nostalgiacs. Turning herself into a gay camp joke, basically, and tarnishing her legacy in the process.

OR

b) Retire gracefully, pursue other projects, and leave everyone going "WOW" at what a great, largely consistent career she's had and what a rich musical legacy she's left.

Personally, I hope she chooses the latter. She's smart enough to make that choice.
[This message was edited Thu Dec 18 11:39:40 PST 2003 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

I really think that Madonna will get it together and put out another album that will make everyone go, "Wow, she is a great artist" again and it will be a big seller. I mean maybe I'm just hoping. I think she has at least one great alubm left in her, than will call it a day! That would be the best way to go. Could you imagine retiring after AL? No. That in fact would kind of ruin her legacy (if enough people even remembered it).

VoicesCarry said:

VoicesCarry,I like you alot and we usually agree,but this time,I have to say you are totally wrong.I don't know where you're getting your information from,but I can tell you that Madonna has absolutely NO plans to retire anytime soon.She still has at least two more albums left on her Warners contract and there is a rumor that she is (privately) entertaining other offers from other companies.So you can bet that there will be alot more Madonna music.She still has alot more to say.

You think that "Madge is nearing the end of her reign"? Funny, that's exactly what people were saying in 1993 after the whole Sex/Erotica/Body Of Evidence phase.But of course she went on to do her greatest movie ('Evita') and her best album ('Ray Of Light').As she has proved many,many,many times in the past,she can NEVER be counted out,and she always bounces back from perceived failures (not that 'American Life' is a total failure,mind you.The total worldwide sales are around 5 million and two singles went Top 40.Most longtime artists would love to "fail" like that).


You criticize her for pulling the controversial "American Life" video.But let's be honest here,would the video channels have REALLY shown it,with a bloody,full-fledged war going on? If she hadn't pulled it herself,it would have been banned regardless.In fact,there is a rumor that MTV had major doubts about airing it BEFORE she even made the announcement to pull it.Madonna is a controversial,provocative artist who always seems to have an "extreme point of view" on every topic (one of the reasons we love her so much...lol)but even she must show a little restraint sometimes,especially when it involves human lives getting killed.She has explained that the video would have been hurtful and insensitive to the families with loved ones fighting in the war."I didn't want to rub salt in their wounds",she said.I think she has a valid point.Yes,pulling the video basically killed the commercial success of the song and I realize that some fans think she "wimped out" and is "losing her touch"(as you put it),but there are much more important things in life than being controversial,or selling records.


"No matter how you cut it,she'll never be what she was,since a 50-year old woman just doesn't appeal to the youth crowd".

But why should she HAVE to appeal to the youth crowd? Her fans have grown up with her! I've been a fan of hers since the 80s,I am 34 years old,and I would rather that she cater her music to my age group anyway...lol...her last three CDs contain mature,powerful,introspective songs that are clearly meant for older audiences.There's no more teeny-bopper bubblegum stuff on her albums nor should there be.I get so sick of people bringing up her age and acting as if it's a reason she should just give up her career.Would you suggest that Prince retire as well? How about Carlos Santana? Stevie Nicks perhaps? How about Sade? Sting? I want her to keep doing the music that SHE wants to make,and let it appeal to whomever "gets it".

If you really believe that Madonna is "tarnishing her legacy" by refusing to retire,then perhaps you should just enjoy her old albums and marvel at the person she used to be.The rest of us are in it for the long haul


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[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 4:21:06 PST 2003 by DavidEye]

I think AL is a far better album than Music. I liked the singles off of Music, with the title track being one of Madonna's best singles ever, but I can barely get through the rest of the album. I think AL has better songwriting, better melodies, and a tighter production. AL is the album that should've been the album in Music's place. But she had to go through Music to get to AL, just like she had to go through Ray of Light to get to Music.

I also think the Remixed and Revisited is a sign (hopefully) that Madonna's next album is going to be rock oriented. Every review of Remixed and Revisited has commented how much better the songs sound as rock songs. Maybe she'll even bring in Steve Lilywhite and we'll get a U2-styled Madonna album. I know, I'm dreaming...

The other thing to keep in mind is that, just like Prince, she's growing as a person and an artist. Madonna is much more interested in the spiritual side of things with Kabbalah, and with kids and marriage it changes a person. I don't think there's any reason why she should retire at this stage. I'm very interested to see what she does next.