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Reply #60 posted 12/19/03 5:57pm

JediMaster

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locoarts said:

VoicesCarry said:

Aughhh, my eyes! The goggles - they do nothing!


:LOL: I love that episode of The Simpsons smile


ME TOO!!! McBain as Radioactive Man!!! Priceless!!!
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #61 posted 12/19/03 6:41pm

VinnyM27

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EvilWhiteMale said:

locoarts said:

VoicesCarry said:

Aughhh, my eyes! The goggles - they do nothing!


:LOL: I love that episode of The Simpsons smile



That became a semi-famous line.


Definitely a great episode.


As if there is a bad episode of the "Simpsons"! I guess the first few year or so was kind of lame and all about Bart but once they relized what they could do with Homer (which is just about anything it seems), the show really got cooking! There is usaually at least one great line in each show, mostly coming from Homer (unless Ralph is there). What was the topic?
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Reply #62 posted 12/19/03 6:41pm

VoicesCarry

Marrk said:

bananacologne said:

I wonder...if he had the chance 2 do it ALL (well...maybe not ALL) again...

would he ease up on the surgery and not have fucked up his career 2?

Mickey - back in the day u WERE the King of Pop - look at u now...
disbelief


Still the fucking King IMO.

fuck the haters.This is a media carve up.

I here he's coming to London, I'll be there beating the shit out of some paparazzi scum on his behalf.

see you on the news! mad


This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years, and yet his fans continue to profess he's "still got it!" and is "still the king!". The power of belief, my friends. Maybe delusion.

ANYway, he doesn't have body dysmorphic syndrome. Look it up in ANY general psychology text, and you'll realize that Michael Jackson is not one of the stricken. He does have psychological problems, however.
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Reply #63 posted 12/19/03 6:45pm

Cloudbuster

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VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink
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Reply #64 posted 12/19/03 6:45pm

VoicesCarry

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink
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Reply #65 posted 12/19/03 6:50pm

Cloudbuster

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VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


A nine million selling "flop". wink
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Reply #66 posted 12/19/03 6:58pm

Marrk

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VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.
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Reply #67 posted 12/19/03 6:59pm

VinnyM27

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He looks a little bit healthier in this picture.



Kind of buff in this picture.



At this point, he just had way to much plastic sugery!



And this is photo from back in the day with LaToya and Jermaine.




And of course, Neverland

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Reply #68 posted 12/19/03 7:00pm

Cloudbuster

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Marrk said:

Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


smile smile smile
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Reply #69 posted 12/19/03 7:01pm

VinnyM27

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Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


I listened to both of those albums very recently and I might be biad becuase I'm much more of a Madonna fan but if you got somebody that hated both equally, they would admit that AL is a better CD. Then again, its apples and oranges. I just really felt that "Invinicible" sucked.
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Reply #70 posted 12/19/03 7:01pm

VoicesCarry

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


Riiight. 2000 Watts is SUCH a great song.rolleyes
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Reply #71 posted 12/19/03 7:05pm

Marrk

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VoicesCarry said:

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


Riiight. 2000 Watts is SUCH a great song.rolleyes


I didn't say that it was.I happen to think it's crap along with Privacy and The lost Children etc.

American Life doesn't have Butterflies on it though, so automatically loses. wink
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Reply #72 posted 12/19/03 7:06pm

VoicesCarry

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


Riiight. 2000 Watts is SUCH a great song.rolleyes


I didn't say that it was.I happen to think it's crap along with Privacy and The lost Children etc.

American Life doesn't have Butterflies on it though, so automatically loses. wink


Butterflies is alright, I'll give you that. But it's no Nothing Fails wink
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Reply #73 posted 12/19/03 7:07pm

VoicesCarry

Plus Madonna tends to change her style a bit. Michael's still doing the patented paranoia anthems and 'save-the-children' crap, all set to sterile production. Was wonderful in the '80s but it doesn't work now.
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Reply #74 posted 12/19/03 7:08pm

Marrk

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VoicesCarry said:

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


Riiight. 2000 Watts is SUCH a great song.rolleyes


I didn't say that it was.I happen to think it's crap along with Privacy and The lost Children etc.

American Life doesn't have Butterflies on it though, so automatically loses. wink


Butterflies is alright, I'll give you that. But it's no Nothing Fails wink


hmm
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Reply #75 posted 12/19/03 7:11pm

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VinnyM27 said:

He looks a little bit healthier in this picture.



Kind of buff in this picture.



At this point, he just had way to much plastic sugery!



And this is photo from back in the day with LaToya and Jermaine.




And of course, Neverland




All these pictures worked a just a few mintues ago. How is that possible!
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Reply #76 posted 12/19/03 8:09pm

bananacologne

Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

This guy hasn't made good music in 10 years...


That's your opinion. wink


Well, popular opinion, too, considering the sales of Invincible wink


Invincible is still a far superior Album than American Life.


Aint THAT the muthafuckin truth!!! highfive
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Reply #77 posted 12/19/03 9:08pm

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4jamiestarr said:




PEACE N B WiLD!!!

Ok,I know something has 2 be wrong with him even if he didn't molest that kid(s).His face shows that he has a problem...look-his mustache doesn't even grow under his nose because all its went through.It's not even his nose it's his whole face it looks like it literally hurts him 2 show emotion.I used 2 be a big time fan and I still love his music and all but him as a person creeps me out a bit...
And like His promise is true
only my faith can undo
the many chances I blew-R.I.P. Left Eye
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Reply #78 posted 12/19/03 10:30pm

VoicesCarry

PinkPeach said:

4jamiestarr said:




PEACE N B WiLD!!!

Ok,I know something has 2 be wrong with him even if he didn't molest that kid(s).His face shows that he has a problem...look-his mustache doesn't even grow under his nose because all its went through.It's not even his nose it's his whole face it looks like it literally hurts him 2 show emotion.I used 2 be a big time fan and I still love his music and all but him as a person creeps me out a bit...


Only a bit???
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Reply #79 posted 12/20/03 12:35am

bananacologne

I saw a small b&w pic of Him in one of the English tabloids a couple of days ago - and He had the saggiest chin ive EVER seen - im not kidding when I say it looked like warm putty. eek
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Reply #80 posted 12/20/03 12:41am

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Reply #81 posted 12/20/03 1:24am

Marrk

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bananacologne said:

I saw a small b&w pic of Him in one of the English tabloids a couple of days ago - and He had the saggiest chin ive EVER seen - im not kidding when I say it looked like warm putty. eek


That was in the Sun. I think you're referring to the tendons in his neck bulging.It was a bad photo alright. Perhaps they caught him taking a dump?
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Reply #82 posted 12/20/03 1:32am

VoicesCarry

Or maybe, just maybe...





Who will he turn into tomorrow?
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Reply #83 posted 12/20/03 2:43am

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PinkPeach said:

4jamiestarr said:




PEACE N B WiLD!!!

Ok,I know something has 2 be wrong with him even if he didn't molest that kid(s).His face shows that he has a problem...look-his mustache doesn't even grow under his nose because all its went through.It's not even his nose it's his whole face it looks like it literally hurts him 2 show emotion.I used 2 be a big time fan and I still love his music and all but him as a person creeps me out a bit...


I would have 2 agree with u.
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Reply #84 posted 12/20/03 5:15am

mrdespues

Look, this is really stupid.

You find a smug looking pic and sensationalise it by highlighting his expression and pointing to it saying "look, he's smiling in a funny way! he's GUILTY!"

Wait until the verdict - a picture like this proves nothing. It's ridiculous to judge someone as a child molester by the way they look.

That's the kind of thing they'd do in the dark ages. "If it floats, it's a witch".
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Reply #85 posted 12/20/03 11:25am

MrSquiggle

VoicesCarry said:

Aughhh, my eyes! The goggles - they do nothing!


falloff Mad call!
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Reply #86 posted 12/20/03 12:41pm

Cloudbuster

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VoicesCarry said:

Plus Madonna tends to change her style a bit. Michael's still doing the patented paranoia anthems and 'save-the-children' crap, all set to sterile production. Was wonderful in the '80s but it doesn't work now.


Even the worst reviews of Invincible praised the production. To my ears it's easily one of the cleanest albums I've ever heard. And Madonna may take more risks but ends up with very dated sounding albums due to trying to fit in with the current trends.
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Reply #87 posted 12/20/03 2:33pm

VoicesCarry

Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:

Plus Madonna tends to change her style a bit. Michael's still doing the patented paranoia anthems and 'save-the-children' crap, all set to sterile production. Was wonderful in the '80s but it doesn't work now.


Even the worst reviews of Invincible praised the production. To my ears it's easily one of the cleanest albums I've ever heard. And Madonna may take more risks but ends up with very dated sounding albums due to trying to fit in with the current trends.


Yeah, because Bad and Dangerous sound so fresh rolleyes
Smooth Criminal, especially.

Tell me, if he molests a few more children, will he qualify for his own church?
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Reply #88 posted 12/20/03 3:11pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Yeah, because Bad and Dangerous sound so fresh rolleyes
Smooth Criminal, especially.


Bad is dated. No question. The only track on there that isn't is I Just Can't Stop Loving You.

As for Dangerous:

In The Closet
Remember The Time
Black Or White
Who Is It
Give In To Me
Will You Be There
Keep The Faith and
Dangerous all sound as fresh today as they did twelve years ago.
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Reply #89 posted 12/20/03 3:29pm

VoicesCarry

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VoicesCarry said:

Yeah, because Bad and Dangerous sound so fresh rolleyes
Smooth Criminal, especially.


Bad is dated. No question. The only track on there that isn't is I Just Can't Stop Loving You.

As for Dangerous:

In The Closet
Remember The Time
Black Or White
Who Is It
Give In To Me
Will You Be There
Keep The Faith and
Dangerous all sound as fresh today as they did twelve years ago.


:O Dangerous sounds unbelievably dated, sorry sad It's an archeological artifact of the early '90s. Invincible was dated by about 10 years upon its release (except for select tracks like Butterflies, which I actually appreciate). 2000 Watts, Privacy, Cry, and The Lost Children are just horrible tracks. You Rock My World? Christ, that sounds like everything else he's ever done (well, that was a problem with most of the Invincible material, actually). What an awful lead single.

There is no way that Like A Prayer, Erotica, Bedtime Stories, or Ray Of Light are more dated than Bad and Dangerous. Erotica is dated, yes, but definitely not on a Bad scale. Songs such as Like A Prayer, Secret, and Frozen still sound timeless.

All I'm saying is Madonna progresses artistically, is adventurous enough to try new things - even if they fail (American Life), and actually doesn't conform to current trends, like you said. Going from Bedtime Stories R&B lite to Evita-era AC pop to Ray Of Light electronica/techno to the intimate, acoustic feel of American Life is not conforming to trends.
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