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whodknee said: Let me start by saying that I'm as "black" as Roger and Prince.
 Having said that I Wanna Be Your Man is okay but not even close to one of Roger's best songs. It isn't funky like his best cuts and is kind of boring. Like somebody else said there's way too much vocoder on the song.
Now as for the comparative talents of Prince and Roger I guess that's up to opinion. I never saw Zapp live so I can speak of Roger's musicianship, stage presence, or dancing. However, I can say that Prince's range of abilities is much greater. His songs are more layered and in some cases melodic. There's a depth to Prince's music that Zapp's lacked. The voice is an often overlooked instrument and Prince uses his with the best of them-- vocoders pale in comparison. Thus, to compare Roger to Prince outside of a funk context is ridiculous. If the argument was who's funkier than you'd have a case, but a more talented musician? Wake up. indeed i love roger but he can't out do prince | |
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thetimefan said: If u don't like the song then why bother replying 2 the post?. In my opinion Roger Troutman was equally or even more talented than Prince.
2 just my  Don't know about that dude...however the song is a masterpiece! Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time? The Funk will always b with u "I've got a face, not just my race, Bang Bang I've got you babe!" | |
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thetimefan said: BlaqueKnight said: [color=blue:fca669037b:5173e64e74:863d287e16]When they did this song live, Roger used to do something Prince NEVER did - he would pull a "big gurl" on stage and sing to her and pretend to go down on her. It showed a much less superficial side to him. Nothing makes an audience identify with a performer more than when he/she comes down of his/her high horse. Prince could have used a lesson or two on this back in the day. Plus, as I've said on other threads, I've seen Roger play more instruments onstage (well, I might add) than I have Prince. He was musically just as if not more talented. He just chose to do R&B, Funk and jazz rather thn venture out into rock and...tehno
 I agree. I know Prince is very, very talented, but I do honestly believe Roger Troutman was equally or even more talented than Prince. Listen 2 songs like 'Maxx Axe' from 'Many Facets of Roger' and u will see how great Roger's music is. Roger also wrote the awesome ballad 'As We Lay' for Shirley Murdoch. Roger Troutman was and still is a great musician and its awesome 2 see others who appreciate his music also. He isn't still a great musician...he's dead. Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time? The Funk will always b with u "I've got a face, not just my race, Bang Bang I've got you babe!" | |
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Kinda related. I played "Do It Roger" on my radio show last week. Amazing track. | |
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Supernova said: laurarichardson said: Supernova said: Sorry for the back and forth doing the dozens.
But I guarantee others who like the song will contribute to the thread sooner or later. It's not like I'm the only voice here. ` [This message was edited Fri Dec 12 20:19:36 PST 2003 by Supernova] M r.Supernova because Roger did not perform rock does not mean he wasn't talented. I saw Roger and Zapp a few times back in the day .They Rocked!!. Roger was just as talented as Prince and I think I can speak for a lot of funk fans on Prince org members when I say that the constant put down of other black artist on this site is out of fucking control.
And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. Now stop jacking TheTimeFan's thread. My part in it was done yesterday. --- First of all I will Jack any thread that I want to and you can't stop me so. get over it. "And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. " I assume a lot of things about you because I have been reading your wack-ass comments for sometime now. I think my assumptions are right on the money since you bothered to respond. I have also discussed the constant trashing of RnB music on this site with other members. So my so-called paranoia is spreading to others or is very real. | |
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laurarichardson said: Supernova said: laurarichardson said: Supernova said: Sorry for the back and forth doing the dozens.
But I guarantee others who like the song will contribute to the thread sooner or later. It's not like I'm the only voice here. ` [This message was edited Fri Dec 12 20:19:36 PST 2003 by Supernova] M r.Supernova because Roger did not perform rock does not mean he wasn't talented. I saw Roger and Zapp a few times back in the day .They Rocked!!. Roger was just as talented as Prince and I think I can speak for a lot of funk fans on Prince org members when I say that the constant put down of other black artist on this site is out of fucking control.
And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. Now stop jacking TheTimeFan's thread. My part in it was done yesterday. --- First of all I will Jack any thread that I want to and you can't stop me so. get over it. "And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. " I assume a lot of things about you because I have been reading your wack-ass comments for sometime now. I think my assumptions are right on the money since you bothered to respond. I have also discussed the constant trashing of RnB music on this site with other members. So my so-called paranoia is spreading to others or is very real. is this shrew ever gonna get laid? "oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK" | |
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Some menopausal wretch aka laurarichardson said: Supernova said: Some menopausal wretch aka
laurarichardson said: Supernova said: Sorry for the back and forth doing the dozens.
But I guarantee others who like the song will contribute to the thread sooner or later. It's not like I'm the only voice here. ` [This message was edited Fri Dec 12 20:19:36 PST 2003 by Supernova] M r.Supernova because Roger did not perform rock does not mean he wasn't talented. I saw Roger and Zapp a few times back in the day .They Rocked!!. Roger was just as talented as Prince and I think I can speak for a lot of funk fans on Prince org members when I say that the constant put down of other black artist on this site is out of fucking control.
And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. Now stop jacking TheTimeFan's thread. My part in it was done yesterday. --- First of all I will Jack any thread that I want to and you can't stop me so. get over it. "And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. " I assume a lot of things about you because I have been reading your wack-ass comments for sometime now. I think my assumptions are right on the money since you bothered to respond. It's official; your paranoia is a sign of sexual frustration. It's too bad you have to contrive bullshit about ANYTHING you've read by me (I notice you can't directly quote any examples, and it's clear why). You're posts in this thread are too stupid for words. You menopausal wretch. ยบ [This message was edited Wed Dec 17 22:01:03 PST 2003 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: laurarichardson said: Supernova said: laurarichardson said: Supernova said: Sorry for the back and forth doing the dozens.
But I guarantee others who like the song will contribute to the thread sooner or later. It's not like I'm the only voice here. ` [This message was edited Fri Dec 12 20:19:36 PST 2003 by Supernova] M r.Supernova because Roger did not perform rock does not mean he wasn't talented. I saw Roger and Zapp a few times back in the day .They Rocked!!. Roger was just as talented as Prince and I think I can speak for a lot of funk fans on Prince org members when I say that the constant put down of other black artist on this site is out of fucking control.
And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. Now stop jacking TheTimeFan's thread. My part in it was done yesterday. --- First of all I will Jack any thread that I want to and you can't stop me so. get over it. "And I think I can speak for a lot of people in general on this site when I say you ASSume WAYYY too much about me with nothing concrete to base your assumptions on. The defensiveness of your response to me borders on paranoia. " I assume a lot of things about you because I have been reading your wack-ass comments for sometime now. I think my assumptions are right on the money since you bothered to respond. It's official; your paranoia is a sign of sexual frustration. It's too bad you have to contrive bullshit about ANYTHING you've read by me (I notice you can't directly quote any examples, and it's clear why). You're posts in this thread are too stupid for words. You menopausal wretch. finally, someone agrees with me!  "oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK" | |
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whodknee said: Let me start by saying that I'm as "black" as Roger and Prince.
Having said that I Wanna Be Your Man is okay but not even close to one of Roger's best songs. It isn't funky like his best cuts and is kind of boring. Like somebody else said there's way too much vocoder on the song.
Now as for the comparative talents of Prince and Roger I guess that's up to opinion. I never saw Zapp live so I can speak of Roger's musicianship, stage presence, or dancing. However, I can say that Prince's range of abilities is much greater. His songs are more layered and in some cases melodic. There's a depth to Prince's music that Zapp's lacked. The voice is an often overlooked instrument and Prince uses his with the best of them-- vocoders pale in comparison. Thus, to compare Roger to Prince outside of a funk context is ridiculous. If the argument was who's funkier than you'd have a case, but a more talented musician? Wake up. Wake Up?... In my opinion, Roger Troutman was equally or more talented than Prince, believe it or not. Listen 2 the guitar on songs like 'Girl, Cut It Out' Remix and many others. Roger also did blues and jazz songs on almost every album that he or Zapp recorded such as 'A Chunk Of Sugar' on 'Many Facets of Roger'. Also, Prince has used voice-distortion on songs like 'Feel U Up', 'Erotic City' and 'If I Was Your Girlfriend' so this kinda cancels out ur criticism of Roger's usage of the 'Talkbox'. Yes Prince is a great singer, but I am comparing'musicianship' not vocal ability. I am a big, big fan of Roger & Zapp's as I am a big, big Prince fan/fam so I was not criticising Prince's talent, just stating that Roger Troutman was under-rated as a musician. Just my | |
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I like most of Roger and Zapp's songs but for some reason,I can't tolerate "I Wanna Be Your Man" 
I think their uptempo jams were superior to their ballads.The vocoder/talkbox thing worked well on the funk jams,but on ballads,it just sounds kinda silly. btw,Laura what is your problem? Lately,I've been seeing you getting into one argument after another.You have a serious problem with debating.When someone disagrees with your narrow-minded views,you start flaming.Chill,girl! | |
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DavidEye said: I like most of Roger and Zapp's songs but for some reason,I can't tolerate "I Wanna Be Your Man"
I think their uptempo jams were superior to their ballads.The vocoder/talkbox thing worked well on the funk jams,but on ballads,it just sounds kinda silly. btw,Laura what is your problem? Lately,I've been seeing you getting into one argument after another.You have a serious problem with debating.When someone disagrees with your narrow-minded views,you start flaming.Chill,girl! Check out "Be Alright". No talkbox. Tasty guitar licks. Great ballad. | |
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"I Wanna Be Your Man" reminds me of one thing. THE RINK. This had to be one of the most played songs at skating rinks everywhere. I remember older people in their 40's or 50's getting in a little line and doing a lil' step together during songs like this. I used to pearl past them and say "get it, yall!!" This song was also a good couples' skate. I could take a girl by the hand when my mom wasn't looking and try to get my romance on. Roger isn't one of my favorite artists, but his songs certainly bring back some cool memories. | |
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