THE SOURCE WON'T RELENT: Claims Eminem lied in his 2nd apology.
Benzino: "Senator Trent Lott was man enough to appear on BET -- why not Eminem?"


Eminem
(Dec. 12, 2003) New York, NY –– The Source Magazine blasted Eminem for his second so-called apology where he again tries to dismiss his racist rantings as the result of youthful ignorance. The Source has incontrovertibly proved that Eminem’s racist and offensive tracks were recorded in 1993 when he was 21, not 16 as he again tries to claim.

The actual Maxell tape that Eminem recorded direct-to-tape on is model XL II – 90, lot # J1920322. The Maxell Corporation of America’s Technical Support Unit has confirmed that this tape was assembled October 19, 1992.

Eminem’s second apology comes as a growing chorus of African-American leaders call on the rapper to take responsibility for his words and to address the black community. Malik Zulu Shabazz, National Chairman of the New Black Panther Party and former member of the Zulu Nation, said of Eminem’s second media statement, “I think that’s a garbage excuse…I think that’s weak…1993 wasn’t that long ago…The fact of the matter is that it actually sheds more light on who he really is…he’s really playing a game now with Black people to get some Black money or credibility in a Black industry by really ripping us off…He’s like Elvis Presley…he has talent but has exploited his whiteness in the hip-hop industry to garner himself millions and deceive the Black following…this is good that this has come out so that Black people can really see the true Eminem.”

Grammy nominee Nikki Giovanni said, “I’m not a fan of Eminem and it was a profound disappointment. What’s the purpose of this boy who’s making a living off of a Black art form being deliberately insulting? He had to know that this was not acceptable and what he didn’t expect is that somebody would say something to him. Eminem and the white boys who want to do rap have to grow up. You are just not allowed to be a bigot.”

“Eminem certainly needs to apologize – not just offer the excuse of his youth to deny the racist beliefs that abound,” said Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, Professor – U Penn, Author. “Even if he was just ‘blowing off steam’ as an angry kid, why resort to racist lyrics to denigrate his former girlfriend? His explanation fails to acknowledge the hurtful body of beliefs that have prevailed in this country for centuries, beliefs that he appropriated and circulated through his lyrics. Further, he has refused to admit that such poisonous beliefs are a threat to the very music he loves, and also, to the people who have been responsible for creating the culture he has benefited from, making him wealthy by his own admission.” “I feel that there is a huge double standard when it comes to mainstream media holding people that are not of color accountable for their actions,” said Crazy Legs of the RockSteady Crew. “If this would have been someone of color, careers would have been lost by now. What Eminem has done is something that has to be taken seriously.”

The Inc. CEO Irv Gotti said, “I love Black women, I got a mother and five sisters, so I been around Black women all my life so I’m a defender of Black women…The thing that bothers me more than the actual tape was his comment…his comment was I was dating an African-American female at the time and it went bad and I was stupid for doing that and everything.”

Ray Benzino said, “Eminem has to stop hiding behind press releases and address the Black community. Trent Lott was man enough to appear on BET – Why not Eminem?”

Dave Mays said, “We invite Eminem to come to The Source for a roundtable discussion on racism and the Hip-Hop community…”

Audio tracks and transcripts of Eminem’s racist tracks are available at www.thesource.com.

Oh Lawd.. Dre. has sent the man out to pasture.

Have we all done stuff that we've regretted later?

Cloudbuster said:

Sure but if a blatant racist attack is easily forgivable where do you draw the line?

yeah, but there's a lot of anti-whitey in a lot of rap too so what's the deal? eminem is trashy. he's a punk ass. we all knew he was frontin' anyway. what's the big surprise?

Grammy nominee Nikki Giovanni said, “I’m not a fan of Eminem and it was a profound disappointment. What’s the purpose of this boy who’s making a living off of a Black art form being deliberately insulting? He had to know that this was not acceptable and what he didn’t expect is that somebody would say something to him. Eminem and the white boys who want to do rap have to grow up. You are just not allowed to be a bigot.”

I looove Nikki Giovanni - she's real straight up! Those were my thoughts exactly!

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

...the difference being that "whitey" represents a system of oppression that began with the wholesale slaugher and enslavement of millions and continues to this day... "Nigger" represents the hatred and racism that drove that system of oppression...

Why am I getting involved in this again?

Harlepolis said:

damn they're diggin..deep

WickedDay said:

Really. All things aside: Vendetta, anyone?

Okay, he said a racial remark, who hasnt in that crap music industry.. The people who are writing these fucking articles are living in a glass house, because i got about 30 cd's in my stash that is living proof of a rap culture that has based their rap around racial slurs.. so I guess its obvious from the start I figured a rap magazine wouldnt like eminem for what he is.. so it was just a matter of time...They act like he is the first rapper of all time to say a racial remark? What about every other rapper in the history of rap music? U see them apologizing for any of remarks they made about a black or white person? No,

Bottom Line, If the music content is filled with racial shit, Im not gonna listen, and that goes for any rapper of any color.. It also goes for that piss of a magazine.

Rap music is a fucking joke. Hypocrites land.

FunkMistress said:

that system of slavery existed before 'whitey' used it here in north america. and we know all about the kings in africa who sold their own people, so please, spare me the lecture. if 'nigger' represents that system of oppression why do so many black rappers use it interchangeably with their friends and foes? i don't like eminem. i think he is an idiot. i also don't like the double standard that exists between whites and blacks.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

For shame, and quit the tired "Kings in africa sold their people" revisionist BS you keep spouting too, in the bigger picture of western enslavement it was a very small issue.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Black people don't use the word 'nigger', it's 'nigga' and sometimes when it's used, it comes from a place of love from one black person to another. To me, when you take a word and make it your own, it takes away the power that someone can use to hurt you with it. My two cents.
[This message was edited Fri Dec 12 12:07:38 PST 2003 by stymie]

stymie said:

Don't waste your time on somebody who can't understand the "double standard" between black/white using the word.

Ok here're my very humble 2 cents that I have to get outta my system:


The Source just won't stop. If they want to call on Eminem then they need to call on every other rapper that has dissed black women. I am a true believer that we must clean out our own house (the word NIGGA, dissing women, supporting one another) before we can even point our finger at someone that's not even in the family. Yes Eminem made some foul comments, but his comments are nothing compared to other BLACK rappers. We need to check ourselves first. This is so childish. "We can use the N-word, they can't. We can diss our women, they can't". As a people we sound really, really dumb. Race relations is very important, but education is foremost. If we educate ourselves and have textbooks that reflect all cultures, mixed in with exposure to those that are different-we will be a better society. Don't go telling other people what they can't do when you do it! The Source doesn't know the first thing about real journalism, which is why sells are down. Eric Dyson and Nikki Giovanni (I love them) need to be addressing all rappers. Educate ourselves first. Let's take care of our own house first before we cross the street and worry about our neighbors.

What I would say to all these hypocrite so called "Black Leaders" is to make sure that if you pick a fight with Eminem over this, make sure that the whole entire problem is fixed. There's a lot of people out there with a lot of issues concerning the type of music that's being played and sold and it just shouldn't be. You can say whatever you want about this angry white dude(wigger) being a racist or whatever, but his influences stem directly from groups that also used the "N" word and they weren't white. Don't just pick a fight with him because he's white. Do it because you feel in your heart that it's the right thing to do.

In a VERY simple phrase,,,WE as black folks are our OWN enemies and we draw the line into ourselves there4 we should look deeper into this issue rather than hammer the wigger becoz WE made him comfortable using those words in the 1st place beocz he would'nt even think about using those words if we were DIDN'T use 'em.

You're ready to throw Em's CDs outta the window? Fine but be ready to throw a WHOLE LOT OF CDs and enough with this hypocrite bullshit cuz I'm getting sick of double standards.


Sorry 4 the angry post!

I also have to point out that all Blacks do not accept either the word "nigger" or "nigga" (as if there is a real, rational difference) as some damn "term of endearment." So let's just squash all this "Blacks do it" blanket bullshit.

MD7 said:

whateva, treva.

i am so sick of hearing this one sided bullshit argument about how white people are awful and they can't do anything because they participated in slavery back in the day. eminem said nigger and made nasty comments about black women. thats fucked up, no question. i hope his records stop selling because of it. but some of y'all need to stop playin' like it doesn't go down the opposite way too. if i could have a penny for every time i heard 'nigger' or a white racial slur in rap, i would be out with paris and nicole, shopping!

and the reason i point out the whole 'kings in africa' thing is because it is always conveniently left out of most discussions about slavery. sorry, but its a pretty bloody important factor.

MD7 said:

No, I don't see it like that and since I know Nasty personally, I know that he comes from a good place.

MD7 said:

i know that mess was not directed at me, md7. when you know me...my background, race, history, etc...then you can discuss what i do and don't understand.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Honey - please don't go there with that double standard crap - Slavery was some deep shit and it's effects were so profound that YES it has passed down emotions through the generations (not that it had that many to go through- many of our PARENTS (not GRANDS or GREAT GRANDS) were NOT allowed to drink from the same fucking fountain!
In Africa- Yes they sold there own people but it was either cooperate or be killed - What would you do against the face of a gun? ecspecially when you've never seen one!
Lastly, our people have been brainwashed robbed of there history and relgion and forces to create a BRAND NEW culture for themselves. NEVER has a people been so DEEPLY oppressed for so long and then to be So- called free in a country where you own nothing and the only people that are able to help you hate you - unless you've live through or felt the affect you have NO RIGHT to critisize that aspect of it!
You can say what you want about Eminem (fuck'em)
but when you start to bring How black people interact with eachother in it (when you obviously no nothing of the struggle) it get real to me!

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

So you want to discredit/revise slavery and it's impacts, fine, as long as your cards are on the table then. Do you deny the holocaust too?

stymie said:

thank you stymie.

Harlepolis said:

Don't apologize for shit, Harle. You are 100% correct.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Let me guess, Italian, claim a hard childhood that somehow equates with that of the African-American, likely some homosexual incinations that you feel places you in another oppressed minority, always trying to out-victim the real victim. How close am I?

stymie said:

Co-sign!

Harlepolis said:

Thankyouverymuch. That's the crux of the issue. NONE of these ignorant rappers who do it are beyond reproach.

Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey

I think I'll go play that now.

As for Eminem..

SweetKreme said:

i have never denied the incredible impacts of slavery. and that is not in question here. what i'm questioning is the difference with which we treat the same topic when presented by a white man vs a black man. america has been very succssful in creating social stratification based on race, whereas many other nations use money as the primary stratification tool. only in america are racial tensions so bad. the fact that you've said i can say whatever i want about a white man but i better watch what i say about black people proves this. for you to say i obviously know nothing about how black people interact together is possibly the most presumptuous things anyone has said to me on the org. i was raised, for much of my childhood, in a black environment. my family history includes a black step mother and two black sisters. i think i'm experienced in multi-culturalism, thankyouverymuch. why is my opinion questionable when i speak of black people using the word nigger i don't agree with its use. period. from whites, blacks or any other race. but lets get real about the double standard. it is there. your comments proved it.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

1. South Africa and many other nations with ongoing ethnic wars may disagree on first count.

2. You really feel no difference at all between white/black usage of that word?

if this is the kind of bullshit that African American leaders are spending their time and energy on (as cited by the article), it's no wonder nothing of substance on the race issue gets addressed in this country.