KAMILLE said:

Music snobs would decry your inclusion of Sophie Ellis Bextor and Girls Aloud as "treason!", but they've both made really fun pop records, and what's so bad about that, really? They're harmless, and some of it is really relaxing and enjoyable. But "fun" is antipathy to a true snob

VoicesCarry said:

I didn't see that! Girls Aloud are Shit! They look good though!

garnis said:

It's not the snobbery I have a problem with. I have what I consider very high musical standards, that some people would find snobbish. But that isn't the issue. It's your insistence on trolling threads with "so and so sucks" time after time. And if you had valid reasoning to back it up, it might be forgivable. But you rarely explain why you think your taste is superior and why certain artists are beneath your standards. Instead, you just make blanket statements ripping on other orgers and the music they love.

Slave2daGroove said:

You wanna know about Jazz history?? You'll have to be a bit more specific please. Narrow your inquiry to Big Band\Swing, Bop, Cool, Free Jazz, Fusion, Hard Bop, Latin Jazz, New Orleans, or Soul Jazz

KAMILLE said:

Acceptible artists in this list.
James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Ice Cube, De La Soul, 2Pac, Parliment\Funkadelic, Jimmy Cliff, Stevie Wonder, Wu-Tang, Jungle Bros, Marvin Gaye, Louis Armstrong

TRON said:

I thought we went over the Bjork thing a while back

garnis said:

Yes. But that was a rare case. You usually just pop in and say "OutKast sucks ass" or some such.

What's the point anyway?

I admire artist who take music in a new direction. Outkast for instance is redundant hip hop drivel (Big Boi) or a funk\soul copy-cat (dre3000) They aren't doing anything new. They are about as fresh as 50 cent.

garnis said:

You don't know very much about rap, do you?

Whats to know? Whether two words rhyme or not? What makes a killer break beat? Rap is stale, it has barely evolved since it's birth. Tricky is probably the freshest rapish artist today.

garnis said:

Tricky is one of my favorites, but not exactly rap.

There's actually a lot of skill involved in rapping if it's good. Try it sometime. It's not as easy as it seems.

TRON said:

Exactamundo, TRON.

i just can't believe someone can be so blind to something they profess to be a snob of.

outkast is phenomenal.

garnis knows this. he probably has all of their cds but he enjoys getting a response from someone other than his other org aliases.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

You're the best!

TRON said:

i learned it by watching you, alright!

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Where did you get that weed!

No, I actually can't stand Outkast, especially Big Boi. Rapping is quite difficult I know. IMO The greats of the genre are Tribe, Dig Planets, Biggie, 2Pac, Wu-Tang, Cube, De La, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, Don't care for todays stars such as Jay-Z 50Cent, Eminem, Outkast, etc. I will predict Outkast's break-up right here, right now. Its coming.

TRON said:

garnis said:

What about Missy Elliott?

Ya know what, I kinda like Missy. Not for her music though. More for what she represents. Not the hottest female out there, but still made it to the top of a man's industry. I like her vid with all the kids dancin' She ain't anywhere near the top of the heap though.

garnis said:

Well, she's never pretended to be anything she's not, including a skilled rapper. I think her strenths are that she's multi-talented and seems to have an endless imagination.

garnis said:

O.K. so let's hear the scoop on Soul Jazz, Latin Jazz and Funk Jazz (which isn't listed), what about Acid Jazz?

Prince has an endless imagination. If Missy lasts 10 years, I'll be surprised. Her stylists and video producers are on top of it for sure.

garnis said:

No disrespect, but I think 2Pac is way overrated.

So he can rhyme 'misery' with 'penitentiary' in every song. Big deal.

OMG are you serious? That guy is viewed are the John Lennon or Kurt Cobain of Rap.

garnis said:

um, cuz yeah, that's a hard prediction. let's see...they released a double cd set with each member having his own disc, thus seeing how people like them solo while still having the safety of 'outkast'. they may not break up alltogether but they are definitely getting started on some solo careers.

this has no bearing on the genius of their current work.

garnis said:

I think I know what you're trying to say.

He wouldn't have half the stature he does today if he hadn't died. And that's why he gets the comparisons to the 2 greats you mentioned above.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Truth be told, most of the best bands/groups break up or quit before they start to suck.

Very few can sustain an interesting career for over a decade.

Well I never thought of it that way. His mother was very involved with the black panther party, this and the fact that he was real, not just some wannabe thug, made him a savior in the eyes of black america. I think he was killed because of his influence on the black youth.

TRON said:

!!! TRON is on a roll!