This'll surely help her legacy.

More power to her.

Supernova said:

Well it's not like her name helped with the record sales. Personally I think she was just out for some cash. Outkast did change the title of the track on the later pressings.

I will say they should've kicked her out a couple of bucks just on G.P., but who knows they might've she just wants more.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Did you ever think that she just doesn't want her name associated with this type of music, or specifically Outkast for some other reason? They have rights, but so does she. And it's her name.

You have to have freedom of speech. No one's name is sacrad. Rosa is getting a bit senile.

2freaky4church1 said:

You rarely have anything intelligent to say.
That hasn't changed.

isnt this sorta like naming a movie "Steven Spielberg"?

so is the supreme court saying that having her name as the song title is akin to her endorsing the song? thats the only way I can think why the supreme court would side with her on this...

its strange that they sided with her...strange.

2freaky4church1 said:

I think it is her family members who pushed this issue more than anyone. If Outkast was degrading Rosa Parks in the song, then I could understand. But, it seems like such a non-issue to sue someone over. The funny thing about it is that most people probably don't even know the song as "Rosa Parks" they just know it's "that song by Outkast about moving to the back of the bus."

If you ask me, I think it's just some greedy family members who want to collect.

Supernova said:

True, she has rights too, but this is the scenario I have in my head.
"Grandma they used your name on the new outkast album!"

R.P. "Who is Outkast?"

I personally feel that she was persuaded by family members and lawyers to pursue this case. Like I said before, they changed the name of the track, what more could she want besides money? How much does she want for that? It's not like they're degrading her in the lyrics.

Ah ha, hush that fuss
Everybody move to the back of the bus
Do you wanna bump and slump with us
We the type of people make the club get crunk

[Verse 1:(Big Boi)]
Many a day has passed, the night has gone by
But still I find the time to put that bump off in your eye
Total chaos, for these playas, thought we was absent
We takin another route to represent the Dungeon Family
Like Great Day, me and my nigga decide to take the back way
We stabbing every city then we headed to that bat cave
A-T-L, Georgia, what we do for ya
Bull doggin hoes like them Georgetown Hoyas
Boy you sounding silly, thank my Brougham aint sittin pretty
Doing doughnuts round you suckas like then circles around titties
Damn we the committee gone burn it down
But us gone bust you in the mouth with the chorus now

[Hook]

I met a gypsy and she hipped me to some life game
To stimulate then activate the left and right brain
Said baby boy you only funky as your last cut
You focus on the past your ass'll be a has what
Thats one to live by or either that one to die to
I try to just throw it at you determine your own adventure
Andre, got to her station here's my destination
She got off the bus, the conversation lingered in my head for hours
Took a shower kinda sour cause my favorite group ain't comin with it
But I'm witcha you cause you probably goin through it anyway
But anyhow when in doubt went on out and bought it
Cause I thought it would be jammin but examine all the flawsky-wawsky
Awfully, it's sad and it's costly, but that's all she wrote
And I hope I never have to float in that boat
Up shit creek it's weak is the last quote
That I want to hear when I'm goin down when all's said and done
And we got a new joe in town
When the record player get to skippin and slowin down
All yawl can say is them niggas earned that crown but until then...



I don't see what she finds so offensive about these lyrics, besides a couple of curse words.

Her name's not even mentioned.

FutureShock said:

Wow we said pretty much the samething, at the same time!

sinisterpentatonic said:

It doesn't change the fact that there are still albums in print that still contain her name. And since she has never been sue-happy before you have no basis for that theory.


Maybe many of the new schoolers don't find the word "nigga" degrading, but don't take for granted that the Mother of the Civil Rights Movement just might. She has not stated her specific objection publicly, that's just a theory of mine. And since she IS one of the flashpoints of that movement she SHOULD be afforded the respect of not having that word in a song with her name connected to it. Believe it or not that word is not a "term of endearment" to a lot of Blacks, as many who like to generalize would think.

Supernova said:

Well, there are so many references made in rap music, from movies to people. True she should be respected for the part she played in the movement. You would think Outkast would've known better being from Atlanta and all. If she wins this case you can expect an onslaught of lawsuits in any song that makes reference to an individual. Her name is not mentioned once in this song.

I agree, she might not find those lyrics flattering, but my question still stands, how much does she want for that? And what is she gonna do with the money? I still say the people in her life are pushing her on this.

Outkast did show enough respect to change the title, I would think Outkast tried to settle the financial aspects of the case out of court, maybe there weren't enough zero's on what they were offering.

It's really hard to say tho, since she hasn't said anything publicly, or released any statements.

But what does it matter what she would do with the money?

When other people sue they don't get that question.

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Let's not get to pc here; it is only a song.

I think it's ridiculous that she won this case. She's a public figure. Unless the words of the song are libelous or represent some kind of intentional harm to her character, she should just have to deal with it.

This is stupid. What if there was a song about how wonderful she is? Would she be suing? What about songs that actually mentions other famous figures'/celebrities names? Do they have the right to sue?

fucking stupid

this is dumb. I hope Dorothy Parker doesn't come out of the woodwork, asking for some money from P.

This is too restrictive on artists (and anyone daring to use names in songs). It wasn't like they were misrepresenting something or trying to cash in on her. As mentioned too, they already changed the song title for her.