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Reply #30 posted 12/07/03 11:09am

TRON

IstenSzek said:

TonyC said:

is it just me or does she look a little like Courtney Love in this video?


must be the dress lol

she never looked more like Courtney Love than in the
video for "Take A Bow" in the hotelroom scenes.

Other than the tiara in the "American Pie" video.
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Reply #31 posted 12/07/03 7:49pm

wizardofmath

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.
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Reply #32 posted 12/07/03 8:37pm

AaronAlmighty

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wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #33 posted 12/07/03 9:52pm

Raven

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Wrong outfit. Too matron-ly.
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Reply #34 posted 12/07/03 9:53pm

TRON

Raven said:

Wrong outfit. Too matron-ly.

I think it's sexy.
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Reply #35 posted 12/07/03 11:53pm

DavidEye

I love the video.It's simple yet very effective for the song.Madonna looks great in it,as always.I'm thrilled that she made a video for this song.It's one of my favorite songs on the album...breezy,catchy and intoxicating.
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Reply #36 posted 12/08/03 12:00am

TRON

DavidEye said:

I love the video.It's simple yet very effective for the song.Madonna looks great in it,as always.I'm thrilled that she made a video for this song.It's one of my favorite songs on the album...breezy,catchy and intoxicating.

That's what I'm sayin'. biggrin

At first I didn't get what all the fuss was about with this song. Now it's one of my favorites.
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Reply #37 posted 12/08/03 12:05am

DavidEye

jtgillia said:

And what the hell happened to Nothing Fails/Nobody Knows Me as a single?

She just can't make up her mind lately.



"Nothing Fails" IS the current single and the maxi-single will be released on December 9.It features remixes of that song and "Nobody Knows Me" (different from the remixes that appear on the 'Remixed and Revisited' EP).


To be honest with you,I prefer "Love Profusion" to "Nothing Fails".It's a better,catchier song.I like "Nothing Fails" but I think it's extremely overrated by fans.In any case,I'm just glad that we have a new Madonna video to enjoy.
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Reply #38 posted 12/08/03 12:07am

TRON

DavidEye said:

jtgillia said:

And what the hell happened to Nothing Fails/Nobody Knows Me as a single?

She just can't make up her mind lately.



"Nothing Fails" IS the current single and the maxi-single will be released on December 9.It features remixes of that song and "Nobody Knows Me" (different from the remixes that appear on the 'Remixed and Revisited' EP).


To be honest with you,I prefer "Love Profusion" to "Nothing Fails".It's a better,catchier song.I like "Nothing Fails" but I think it's extremely overrated by fans.In any case,I'm just glad that we have a new Madonna video to enjoy.

I wouldn't go that far. "Nothing Fails" is the best song she's done since "Substitute For Love". I think it deserves all the praise it gets.

On a side note, don't you think the promotion of this album has been a little wack?
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Reply #39 posted 12/08/03 2:23am

Christopher

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not bad... smile
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Reply #40 posted 12/08/03 2:37am

DavidEye

TRON said:

DavidEye said:

jtgillia said:

And what the hell happened to Nothing Fails/Nobody Knows Me as a single?

She just can't make up her mind lately.



"Nothing Fails" IS the current single and the maxi-single will be released on December 9.It features remixes of that song and "Nobody Knows Me" (different from the remixes that appear on the 'Remixed and Revisited' EP).


To be honest with you,I prefer "Love Profusion" to "Nothing Fails".It's a better,catchier song.I like "Nothing Fails" but I think it's extremely overrated by fans.In any case,I'm just glad that we have a new Madonna video to enjoy.

I wouldn't go that far. "Nothing Fails" is the best song she's done since "Substitute For Love". I think it deserves all the praise it gets.

On a side note, don't you think the promotion of this album has been a little wack?



Yeah,the promotion has been strange,but we can't complain that we haven't gotten alot this year...

***A cool ass maxi-single for the title track (featuring the excellent Missy Elliot remix)
***A maxi-single for the "Hollywood" single
***The 'Remixed And Revisited' EP
***The upcoming "Love Profusion/Nobody Knows Me" maxi single
***Three videos: the title track (yes it was never released but we all have it anyway...lol),"Hollywood" and now "Love Profusion"

Not to mention all the cool TV appearances,interviews,etc.
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Reply #41 posted 12/08/03 5:30am

DavidEye

TRON said:

"Nothing Fails" is the best song she's done since "Substitute For Love".


disbelief this is one of the rare times when we disagree...lol...I think the song is good,but hardly the masterpiece that many fans make it out to be.Take out the choir and it's a rather ordinary song.

What do you think of "Easy Ride"? I heard a rumor that Madonna wanted to release it as a single,but Warners didn't approve.It's certainly a better choice than "Nothing Fails".
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Reply #42 posted 12/08/03 7:30am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

DavidEye said:

TRON said:

"Nothing Fails" is the best song she's done since "Substitute For Love".


disbelief this is one of the rare times when we disagree...lol...I think the song is good,but hardly the masterpiece that many fans make it out to be.Take out the choir and it's a rather ordinary song.

What do you think of "Easy Ride"? I heard a rumor that Madonna wanted to release it as a single,but Warners didn't approve.It's certainly a better choice than "Nothing Fails".

i know you weren't speaking directly to me but i love easy ride. i think that may be my favorite song on the disc.
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Reply #43 posted 12/08/03 10:25am

VinnyM27

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DavidEye said:

TRON said:

"Nothing Fails" is the best song she's done since "Substitute For Love".


disbelief this is one of the rare times when we disagree...lol...I think the song is good,but hardly the masterpiece that many fans make it out to be.Take out the choir and it's a rather ordinary song.

What do you think of "Easy Ride"? I heard a rumor that Madonna wanted to release it as a single,but Warners didn't approve.It's certainly a better choice than "Nothing Fails".


"Easy Ride" isn't catchy at all and one of the tracks, IMHO, that drags down the album. I'm one of those people that thinks "Nothing Fails" is her "sliced bread" track of the year. I like "Mohter And Father" a lot though.

BTW, has anyone heard "Nothing Fails" on the radio. And are the pusing the remix? I haven't but I never even heard "Hollywood" on the radio. And Madonna is from Detriot! Damn, she pissed off Clear Channel. But then again, its pretty hard for older artists (older than like 23!) to get airplay. It's all about one hit wonder hip hop acts that just yell and make noises. Also, did the R&R EP even chart? Doesn't appear to have. I can't find it? And what does the cover for the new single look like (I guess that will be out tommorrow).
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Reply #44 posted 12/08/03 11:28am

jtgillia

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I don't get the hype for Nothing Fails. As far as ballads go, I much prefer Easy Ride.
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Reply #45 posted 12/08/03 11:43am

CarrieLee

Nice! I like this video...thanks for sharing!
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Reply #46 posted 12/08/03 12:11pm

AaronAlmighty

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VinnyM27 said:

DavidEye said:

TRON said:

"Nothing Fails" is the best song she's done since "Substitute For Love".


disbelief this is one of the rare times when we disagree...lol...I think the song is good,but hardly the masterpiece that many fans make it out to be.Take out the choir and it's a rather ordinary song.

What do you think of "Easy Ride"? I heard a rumor that Madonna wanted to release it as a single,but Warners didn't approve.It's certainly a better choice than "Nothing Fails".


"Easy Ride" isn't catchy at all and one of the tracks, IMHO, that drags down the album. I'm one of those people that thinks "Nothing Fails" is her "sliced bread" track of the year. I like "Mohter And Father" a lot though.

BTW, has anyone heard "Nothing Fails" on the radio. And are the pusing the remix? I haven't but I never even heard "Hollywood" on the radio. And Madonna is from Detriot! Damn, she pissed off Clear Channel. But then again, its pretty hard for older artists (older than like 23!) to get airplay. It's all about one hit wonder hip hop acts that just yell and make noises. Also, did the R&R EP even chart? Doesn't appear to have. I can't find it? And what does the cover for the new single look like (I guess that will be out tommorrow).



R&R charted at #115
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #47 posted 12/08/03 3:53pm

wizardofmath

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.
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Reply #48 posted 12/08/03 5:20pm

AaronAlmighty

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wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #49 posted 12/08/03 5:25pm

wizardofmath

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.
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Reply #50 posted 12/08/03 5:28pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

whatever it is she's doing, she best do it quickly. its getting tiresome watching her talk about kids books.
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Reply #51 posted 12/08/03 5:31pm

AaronAlmighty

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wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #52 posted 12/08/03 5:33pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.

does the new ep count?
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Reply #53 posted 12/08/03 5:37pm

AaronAlmighty

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.

does the new ep count?



probably not. or maybe as a half an album, like Girl 6 and Very Best Of counted for Prince's contract (plus C&D and Vault, as individuals).

the box set might count as another half of an album, but i really don't know.
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #54 posted 12/08/03 5:42pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

AaronAlmighty said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.

does the new ep count?



probably not. or maybe as a half an album, like Girl 6 and Very Best Of counted for Prince's contract (plus C&D and Vault, as individuals).

the box set might count as another half of an album, but i really don't know.

if warners is no longer warners, is it possible that she could have made an arrangement with the new owner?
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Reply #55 posted 12/08/03 5:47pm

AaronAlmighty

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.

does the new ep count?



probably not. or maybe as a half an album, like Girl 6 and Very Best Of counted for Prince's contract (plus C&D and Vault, as individuals).

the box set might count as another half of an album, but i really don't know.

if warners is no longer warners, is it possible that she could have made an arrangement with the new owner?



no, because it didn't have a new owner until after R&R was released.


however, it is possible that she had a clause in her contract that if the company was ever sold, she'd be released from the contract. janet had that in her original Virgin contract, and after only one album, she was able to get out of the contract and re-sign with them, plus she got a hefty check just for them being sold.
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #56 posted 12/08/03 5:50pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

AaronAlmighty said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.

does the new ep count?



probably not. or maybe as a half an album, like Girl 6 and Very Best Of counted for Prince's contract (plus C&D and Vault, as individuals).

the box set might count as another half of an album, but i really don't know.

if warners is no longer warners, is it possible that she could have made an arrangement with the new owner?



no, because it didn't have a new owner until after R&R was released.


however, it is possible that she had a clause in her contract that if the company was ever sold, she'd be released from the contract. janet had that in her original Virgin contract, and after only one album, she was able to get out of the contract and re-sign with them, plus she got a hefty check just for them being sold.

so who co-owns maverick with her now? is warner's out of the picture? i'm so confused...
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Reply #57 posted 12/08/03 6:00pm

AaronAlmighty

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




well, she still owes them, like, 2 albums on her contract.

does the new ep count?



probably not. or maybe as a half an album, like Girl 6 and Very Best Of counted for Prince's contract (plus C&D and Vault, as individuals).

the box set might count as another half of an album, but i really don't know.

if warners is no longer warners, is it possible that she could have made an arrangement with the new owner?



no, because it didn't have a new owner until after R&R was released.


however, it is possible that she had a clause in her contract that if the company was ever sold, she'd be released from the contract. janet had that in her original Virgin contract, and after only one album, she was able to get out of the contract and re-sign with them, plus she got a hefty check just for them being sold.

so who co-owns maverick with her now? is warner's out of the picture? i'm so confused...



Warner Bros. does. They've just been bought. Though Madonna herself isn't signed to Maverick, and I believe the arrangement with them is seperate from her own WB contract.
"oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK"
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Reply #58 posted 12/09/03 12:26am

DavidEye

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

AaronAlmighty said:

wizardofmath said:

There is another version of this video that is much, much better. It will be included in the limited edition version of her boxed set, coming in late spring/early summer.




sezwho?

You have no reason to, but trust me on this one. Madonna didn't release the boxed set at the original time because of the mess that Warner Bros. was in. She will be releasing it this spring/summer and this video will be included along with many more. But only on the limited edition version.




well, i know they're releasing a new DVD with her videos since Beautiful Stranger. but Madonna's manager has said there are no plans for the box set at any time in the future.


Legalities. She's covering her ass. It is not a coincidence that she has not been promoting any of her recent music. Madonna is thru with Warner Bros. Bigger and brighter things are on the horizon.




Tell me more,tell me more smile

Warner Bros. seems to be a sinking ship these days,and I think it's time for Madonna to move on.This is great news.
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Reply #59 posted 12/09/03 5:13am

DavidEye

jtgillia said:

I don't get the hype for Nothing Fails. As far as ballads go, I much prefer Easy Ride.



Agreed."Easy Ride" is just lovely...a lush,powerful ballad with an interesting,"funky" electronic,techno-styled ending.The lyrics are reflective and introspective,and the chorus is strong and focused.Like "Gone" from the 'Music' CD,it really should have been a single.

btw,she should have titled it "Full Circle (I Am Home)" since that's what she actually sings in the chorus.The phrase "easy ride" is only mentioned one time in the whole song!
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