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Thread started 11/26/03 9:28pm

JonSnow

new Nine Inch Nails - "bleedthrough"

The January 2004 Alternative Press has a report on the 25 most anticipated albums of the year, and they shed some light on Trent Reznor's new studio creation:

Nine Inch Nails
"bleedthrough"
release date: soon

"The record explores loss and possible discovery of self," says Trent Reznor about the follow-up to 1999's The Fragile, "along with alternate layers of reality and perception set inside a nightmare you can't seem to wake up from; with lots of feedback." Reznor has enlisted Atticus Ross, Jerome Dillon, Leo Herrera, mix engineer Rich Costey and Rick Rubin to help mold bleedthrough, which will feature new songs such as "The Line Begins To Blur," "Everyday Is Exactly The Same" and "My Dead Friend." This time out, Reznor is introducing high-tech to low-life. "Computers, among other things, are ruining music these days," he says. "I hate the Pro Tooled sound of perfection and everything being 'fixed.' This record is most definitely 'un-fixed.'" And when it comes to touring behind the release, T. Rez is planning on reinventing the will. "It won't be the last tour over again. That person isn't here anymore."
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Reply #1 posted 11/26/03 9:34pm

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Rock on! It's about time NIN came out with something new (something besides that live album anyway)
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Reply #2 posted 11/26/03 11:03pm

mrdespues

More of the same, then...

I was hoping he'd get back on the Prozac. But alas, he said it made him feel "unnaturally happy".

Sad git.

Still, I'll probably check it out when it comes out. He's a talent.

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Reply #3 posted 11/27/03 2:40am

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JonSnow said:

...when it comes to touring behind the release, T. Rez is planning on reinventing the will. "It won't be the last tour over again. That person isn't here anymore."


Thank fuck. If I see them open with 'Terrible Lie' one more fucking time... rolleyes
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Reply #4 posted 11/27/03 3:49am

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Why does this sound like every other NIN album?...
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Reply #5 posted 11/27/03 4:07am

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Tom said:

Why does this sound like every other NIN album?...


what's so bad about it? wink
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Reply #6 posted 11/27/03 5:24am

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Well, I hope it won't be an instrumental jazz CD. Don't ya just hate it when artists known for other things go jazz on ya? wink
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Reply #7 posted 11/27/03 6:31am

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JonSnow said:

The January 2004 Alternative Press has a report on the 25 most anticipated albums of the year, and they shed some light on Trent Reznor's new studio creation:

Nine Inch Nails
"bleedthrough"
release date: soon

"The record explores loss and possible discovery of self," says Trent Reznor about the follow-up to 1999's The Fragile, "along with alternate layers of reality and perception set inside a nightmare you can't seem to wake up from; with lots of feedback." Reznor has enlisted Atticus Ross, Jerome Dillon, Leo Herrera, mix engineer Rich Costey and Rick Rubin to help mold bleedthrough, which will feature new songs such as "The Line Begins To Blur," "Everyday Is Exactly The Same" and "My Dead Friend." This time out, Reznor is introducing high-tech to low-life. "Computers, among other things, are ruining music these days," he says. "I hate the Pro Tooled sound of perfection and everything being 'fixed.' This record is most definitely 'un-fixed.'" And when it comes to touring behind the release, T. Rez is planning on reinventing the will. "It won't be the last tour over again. That person isn't here anymore."

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Reply #8 posted 11/27/03 6:35am

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JonSnow said:

This time out, Reznor is introducing high-tech to low-life. "Computers, among other things, are ruining music these days," he says. "I hate the Pro Tooled sound of perfection and everything being 'fixed.' ... That person isn't here anymore."



WHAT? Hates Pro Tools? Isn't that all he works on? Well pardone moi. So is this gonna be all acoustic? Hmmm. I did see a special on Much Music when the live album came out and he was in a studio performing some songs on piano...
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Reply #9 posted 11/27/03 6:38am

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VinaBlue said:

Hmmm. I did see a special on Much Music when the live album came out and he was in a studio performing some songs on piano...

That was stuff from the "Still" album...
That footage was also dowloadable from nin.com... For free...

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Reply #10 posted 11/27/03 6:45am

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Neversin said:

VinaBlue said:

Hmmm. I did see a special on Much Music when the live album came out and he was in a studio performing some songs on piano...

That was stuff from the "Still" album...
That footage was also dowloadable from nin.com... For free...

Neversin.


Still? Can't seem to find it online. Where can I buy that?
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Reply #11 posted 11/27/03 7:00am

Neversin

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VinaBlue said:

Still? Can't seem to find it online. Where can I buy that?

You can't buy it seperately anymore, it was for sale on nin.com and it came with the (limited edition?) 2CD set of "And All That Could Have Been", one disc being the live album the second the "acoustic" disc...

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Reply #12 posted 11/27/03 8:38am

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Neversin said:

VinaBlue said:

Still? Can't seem to find it online. Where can I buy that?

You can't buy it seperately anymore, it was for sale on nin.com and it came with the (limited edition?) 2CD set of "And All That Could Have Been", one disc being the live album the second the "acoustic" disc...

Neversin.



Bummer. Thanks for the info. rose
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Reply #13 posted 11/27/03 1:47pm

Sdldawn

Sounds good.. This is something I am really looking forward to.
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Reply #14 posted 11/29/03 4:46am

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I don't know why he made that comment about computers ruining music these days seeing he came up with something as brilliant as Pretty Hate Machine. It's not the soft/hardware that is deadening music but the lack of creativity in its use.

I would love Trent Reznor to return with the 'Industrial' sound again, but it's his album. I just wish he'd stop denying the obvious funk in his body, 'Closer', 'Sin' and 'Into the Void' were some jamming shit. It's like the man is afraid of chart success.
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Reply #15 posted 11/30/03 2:25am

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BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:ad2caf0163:d9c34e8976]Well, I hope it won't be an instrumental jazz CD. Don't ya just hate it when artists known for other things go jazz on ya? wink



lol

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Reply #16 posted 12/06/03 4:40pm

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Nine Inch Nails is nothing short of genius. I'm stoked for Bleedthrough...
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Reply #17 posted 12/06/03 11:20pm

TonyC

Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral definitely had some brilliant tracks. I don't know what the f*ck happened with The Fragile...the only track on that album that was decent was Starf*ckers Inc.

I was eagerly awaiting his last album, but I fear this one will be crappy too. But he is like Prince and still has some brilliant songs inside him, so we can only hope a few more come out.
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Reply #18 posted 12/07/03 10:10am

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TonyC said:

Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral definitely had some brilliant tracks. I don't know what the f*ck happened with The Fragile...the only track on that album that was decent was Starf*ckers Inc.

I was eagerly awaiting his last album, but I fear this one will be crappy too. But he is like Prince and still has some brilliant songs inside him, so we can only hope a few more come out.


Unlike Prince, he takes care with what he releases. He is quite prolific, but doesn't release just any random piece of music that he composes.

The Fragile was good... I just think that the anticipation "killed" it. There was no way it could live up to the hype. After "Purple Rain", everybody said "Around the World In a Day" flopped, or sucked... "Parade" too, but "Sign of the Times" was praised by critics and fans alike... and is his best album.
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Reply #19 posted 12/07/03 10:30am

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spacedolphin said:

I don't know why he made that comment about computers ruining music these days seeing he came up with something as brilliant as Pretty Hate Machine. It's not the soft/hardware that is deadening music but the lack of creativity in its use.

I would love Trent Reznor to return with the 'Industrial' sound again, but it's his album. I just wish he'd stop denying the obvious funk in his body, 'Closer', 'Sin' and 'Into the Void' were some jamming shit. It's like the man is afraid of chart success.


I understand the computers ruining music comment... you can still use a keyboard withouth using a computer.
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Reply #20 posted 12/07/03 10:38pm

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P After "Purple Rain", everybody said "Around the World In a Day" flopped, or sucked... "Parade" too, but "Sign of the Times" was praised by critics and fans alike... and is his best album.



I don't know what world you lived in, but I don't remember "everyone" saying that ATWIAD and Parade were flops or sucked. I sure don't hear people on here saying that. But I bet most NIN fans agree that The Fragile was lousy and I've heard many of them say that. It was just totally uninspired sounding and just a total drag.

And I think that most would say that it has been great for Prince to release an album a year throughout the 80s and early 90s. Most of us enjoyed nearly every album or at least was glad that he released them.

Oh well, Prince seems to have run out of creative gas lately, but at least it took him about 15 albums to do so and not just 2 like Mr. Reznor.

But there are still enough tracks on those 2 albums to make me a NIN fan even if his recent stuff sucks. And maybe he'll still produce a few more great songs in the future...that's all I hope for from Prince as well.
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Reply #21 posted 12/08/03 4:24am

Novabreaker

Because I am an industrial music fan, it's my obligation to add here: "NIN is a big sellout". wink

Eat that. And buy Survival Research Labs instead.
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Reply #22 posted 12/08/03 5:01am

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MrWhatever said:

Unlike Prince, he takes care with what he releases. He is quite prolific, but doesn't release just any random piece of music that he composes.


I think he is just a wierdo. He took like 18 years to make The Fragile. Every magazine article for the 3 years leading up to it said that he wanted perfection and he kept shitcanning songs because they werent up to his standards. Some people call that being a perfectionist. I think he's just a wierdo.
But everything from Pretty Hate Machine through most of the tracks on The Downward Spiral was fantastic. I think the expectations for The Fragile got the best of him and he made (IMO) a crummy album.
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Reply #23 posted 12/08/03 6:27am

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Well, I HOPE that this album will be the daring departure that he's claiming it will be. I heard that with The Fragile as well, and it turned out to be more of the same stuff he'd done on his previous discs. I enjoyed the album, but it wasn't this drastic new direction he claimed it would be.
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JediMaster said:

Well, I HOPE that this album will be the daring departure that he's claiming it will be. I heard that with The Fragile as well, and it turned out to be more of the same stuff he'd done on his previous discs. I enjoyed the album, but it wasn't this drastic new direction he claimed it would be.


I think people were making Fragile out to be more toned down and thoughtful. I think it was, but I much prefer Pretty Hate Machine. I didn't like Downward Spiral too much, apart from Closer. I need to burn a single disc of my favorite songs on Fragile. There are some great tracks on that album, but I have to skip over the tracks I don't dig as much and it ruins the momentum. Kinda like with Emancipation.
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Novabreaker said:

Because I am an industrial music fan, it's my obligation to add here: "NIN is a big sellout". wink

Eat that. And buy Survival Research Labs instead.


Just because somebody sells a million records, they are a sell out? Because NIN doesn't fit into yours or anyone else's catagory of "industrial" doesn't mean anything except that his talent got him the mainstream and financial success that Survival Reaearch Craps or whatever other bullshit EBM is en vogue now can't and won't achieve.
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TonyC said:

MrWhatever said

P After "Purple Rain", everybody said "Around the World In a Day" flopped, or sucked... "Parade" too, but "Sign of the Times" was praised by critics and fans alike... and is his best album.



I don't know what world you lived in, but I don't remember "everyone" saying that ATWIAD and Parade were flops or sucked. I sure don't hear people on here saying that. But I bet most NIN fans agree that The Fragile was lousy and I've heard many of them say that. It was just totally uninspired sounding and just a total drag.

And I think that most would say that it has been great for Prince to release an album a year throughout the 80s and early 90s. Most of us enjoyed nearly every album or at least was glad that he released them.

Oh well, Prince seems to have run out of creative gas lately, but at least it took him about 15 albums to do so and not just 2 like Mr. Reznor.

But there are still enough tracks on those 2 albums to make me a NIN fan even if his recent stuff sucks. And maybe he'll still produce a few more great songs in the future...that's all I hope for from Prince as well.


I didn't say those albums sucked, but "everyone" else did. When Purple Rain sold 20 billion copies or whatever, the next album was destined to "fail." Funny thing is, it was mostly critics who panned those albums, and the fans liked them. The Fragile was praised by all critics, and it's the "fans" who are dissing it.

I'll say it again... NIN is musical genius. HIS production skills alone are stellar.
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Reply #27 posted 12/09/03 9:20am

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MrWhatever said:

Just because somebody sells a million records, they are a sell out?


Well... yes!

Because NIN doesn't fit into yours or anyone else's catagory of "industrial" doesn't mean anything except that his talent got him the mainstream and financial success that Survival Reaearch Craps or whatever other bullshit EBM is en vogue now can't and won't achieve.


Oh, chill out. I wasn't terribly serious. NIN certainly does fit into my category of industrial, altough it's not necessarily something I would listen to much anymore (though I agree especially on the production skills) - I was just playing out the typical RMI "industrial elitist" behaviour, glad you noticed it! biggrin

But don't be too quick to judge EBM! You know, sooner or later, when all humour has disappeared from the world EBM will surely rule the charts!
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i like your bugs bunny image.
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Reply #29 posted 12/09/03 11:33pm

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Has anyone notice MIN hasn't put out much product since their breakthrough album..

reason..

THEY didn't do half of it! Cleveland,Ohio knows the truth about Trent! He screwed a few guys I used to work with..

Trent took the credit for allot stuff .. which is exactly how this music biz works!

scumbag!

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what a complete loser! oh yeah by the way he is 45 years old.
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